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What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

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Is Eminem "Relevant" right now?

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What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby Satire » Dec 8th, '09, 01:02

Anyone else feel like no matter what Em does this year, everyone who isn't into him still call him a "Has-been" and disregard everything he does as a "cry for relevance"?

I understand that there are new popular faces on the scene, Eminem's prime is far buried (there are still some shines in the mud here and there though), and...well....he's not only white, but also old now :tounge2: , but why is it that artists like Drake, who hasn't even released a full album yet but a couple of mixtapes & guest appearances, Jay Z, another veteran returning to the game who didn't even sell the amount that Relapse did, & Asher Roth, who is....well, Asher Roth....are considered "relevant" in this game, but Eminem isn't? People say that his career was finished in 2004, but lets look at it.

Encore, despite the disappointment and lol-worthy album it is, sold 11 million copies worldwide.

He signed 50 cent, who turned out to be rap's Bulletproof moneymaker during his prime.

He released D12 World...well....I'm not sure about whether or not this was a good thing.

Shift 5 years later, 2009:

He dominated Drake, Kanye, & Wayne without even knowing that they were going to be on it.

His last album is second highest selling album of the year, and still the highest selling rap album this year.

He's gotten several Grammy Nominations for Relapse and is most likely going to take them (He's going up against 808 Heartbreak...for real?)

He's proven that his Lyrical ability is still in top shape, even though his content is still iffy.

"We Made You" and "Beautiful" are played on the radio like crack.

He helped with DJ Hero....uhh...Yeah I'm not sure about this one.

Refill clearly proved that the Old Em is still in him, and that he can still make sick tracks.

And he's about to get on a track with Lil Wayne again.

What else does he have to do to show that he's just as relevant in this game as anyone else?
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby dR3 » Dec 8th, '09, 01:06

I voted no, but completely agree with you. :y:

And what more should he do? Release R2 :)
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby Stanley C. » Dec 8th, '09, 01:07

of course he is. lose yourself still is the greatest hip hop song of the century. if you dont know this, you simply do not understand lyricism.
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby dR3 » Dec 8th, '09, 01:09

_SacJB wrote:This may sound stupid but Eminem will get 10 times more publicity if he rips on Michael Jackson. I can not GUARANTEE it will be good for him, but I would say he would then have a chance to be relevant. I know it sounds stupid, but that would be his only shot for him to become as famous as he once was. People would absolutely hate him yes, but some would respect him more. Because americans are not real, they hate michael and then all of a sudden they love him just cuz he died. :n: This would be something he could try but yes it's a huge risk. But understand Em was always the most famous when he was the most controversial.


He went after Reeves, he'll go after MJ too
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby Stanley C. » Dec 8th, '09, 01:12

dR.dR3 wrote:He went after Reeves, he'll go after MJ too


Of course he will. He has nothing to be scared of going after MJ. wuts the 2 people that still like MJ gonna do? lol
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby RapName » Dec 8th, '09, 01:13

Stanley C. wrote:of course he is. lose yourself still is the greatest hip hop song of the century. if you dont know this, you simply do not understand lyricism.

That's some bullshit man. Beatles may be the greatest band ever, but they aren't relevant today.
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby RealSickLindley » Dec 8th, '09, 01:16

RapName wrote:
Stanley C. wrote:of course he is. lose yourself still is the greatest hip hop song of the century. if you dont know this, you simply do not understand lyricism.

That's some bullshit man. Beatles may be the greatest band ever, but they aren't relevant today.

Take away the weed and they would have been an average group of scousers trying to sell a few CD's..
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby AJS2050 » Dec 8th, '09, 01:21

of course he is relevent, it's just people seem to always compare him to his previous years or peak years, and for an artist to still dominate the charts after 10 years in music is incredible.

And going at michael jackson would be a terrible thing to do, sure he will get the controversy but dissing the greatest ever is not the way to go besides he has great respect for him so it won't happen.
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby RealSickLindley » Dec 8th, '09, 01:26

MJ is a no go, Em already felt bad enough about the Just Lose it business, that he gave him the royalties to a couple of his songs. And of course in the Complex interview he was so respectful. I can never remember him coming out in the media, talking about a pop artist openly in an interview, showing tonnes of respect, then going back on his word and just dissing for the sake of it.
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby Edge » Dec 8th, '09, 01:29

AJS2050 wrote:of course he is relevent, it's just people seem to always compare him to his previous years or peak years, and for an artist to still dominate the charts after 10 years in music is incredible.

And going at michael jackson would be a terrible thing to do, sure he will get the controversy but dissing the greatest ever is not the way to go besides he has great respect for him so it won't happen.



everything u just said i agree with lol i still feel he is relevent, hewent platnium, had a #1 song and album, ... what more says relevence than that?
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby Apathy_475 » Dec 8th, '09, 01:38

Fuck you whoever deleted my post I hope you die in a car crash.
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby ShadyVsEminem » Dec 8th, '09, 01:39

He is obviously really relevant when everything is all over the internet.He aint as huge as he was which is probably a good thing for him.
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby embm » Dec 8th, '09, 01:43

i say yes hes still relevant or else i wouldnt be on TR :p
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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby RealSickLindley » Dec 8th, '09, 01:50

@Chet

Drugs..

Eminem- Made him paranoid and angry, made him rant and want to vent, made his most powerfull shit. Also they made him beat people up and get assualt charges, which got him in the media, and gave him more material to rip it up. Drugs never necessarily helped him with his rhymes, just helped find him topics to talk about.

Beatles- Made songs about Yellow Submarines and shit, people called them inspired and creative. But go to any group of high motherfuckers and see if they can't come up with better with the same sex appeal and promotional boost. Also they gave birth to the embarrassment that was John Lennon as a solo artist, who came up with nothing but contradicting tripe until he got shot. Yeah John, imagine there's no possessions, while you're in your million pound mansion fanning yourself with a wad of cash next to the pool.. Dickhead.

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Re: What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

Postby Ice_Scarred » Dec 8th, '09, 01:57

Satire wrote:"We Made You" and "Beautiful" are played on the radio like crack.


Where are you from? We Made You was barely ever played on the radio in the U.S. and Beautiful only had only slightly more airplay. Crack A Bottle was the only song from Relapse that actually got moderate play. WMY isn't what the public wants to here and Em embraced the bad public perception in the Complex interview.

Em is slightly more popular than he was in 2008 before anything was released. People start to turn to his music more and his award appearances gave him a slight buzz. But honestly, i'm waiting for Shady to come back to take over again. I think with Relapse 2 he'll get back to the point where he's a popular artist again. I'm talking 2008 Lil Wayne Status (hopefully...I can dream right?).
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