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Did you ever question your own existance

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Did you ever question your own existance

Postby AspirinE » Jan 2nd, '06, 10:37

Like did your have time to stop and think if there is actually a purpose to life.

Do u have ur own concept of life, who or what do believe "god" to be?



I always find myself wonderng about it, especially wen im listning to Rakims "mystery(whos god)". I find his concept very believable and rational.
In eternal blackness, in the midst of the darkest night
Proteins and minerals, exist within specks of light
Solids liquids and gases, and sparks of light within
Infinite lengths and widths and depths and heights
No beginning or ending, the seven dimensions
Enough space for more than a million words and inventions
To travel through time within enough room to be the womb
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Postby walend » Jan 2nd, '06, 10:48

i don't believe there's a concept (exept making kids like every animal)

but the thing i know is ther's no way back.
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Postby Hunneh_Buns » Jan 2nd, '06, 19:49

In my opinion there is no god. And I don't beleive in any other religions. I think that religions are made so people would not be afraid in dying, cause in most religions there is an afterlife. But if you think about it, its impossible to have a god. God couldn't have created everything. It just happened because of evolution and all that science crap.
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Postby Hunneh_Buns » Jan 2nd, '06, 20:01

:shock: I was married to Jesus! :shock:


Now back on topic time. :readguidelines:
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Postby Mr. Cookie » Jan 2nd, '06, 20:26

There's no fuckin' meaning with my life, cuz everything has been fucked up fo' 5 years now...but we live life to do what we belivie in...
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Postby $0 R3@L » Jan 2nd, '06, 20:54

Firstly there is no such thing as god.The bible is a book of could be's.The bible was made so there was like standard rules set for mankind to folow: for example,be kind to one another etc.....
Heaven is made so people dont fear death.People like to think after they die it dont stop there.However id like to add there is such things as ghosts.So what happens when we die? who knows....reicognation? souls get trapped on earth (ghost)? or maybe we do what the bible says...and go live in the clouds in a big city of love :p .
Religon is the worlds biggest problem.All the wars etc are over religion.

Im proud to say i see my religion as me and my meaning in life is to live life to the full ,have no regrets, die before old age and marry the one i love.

theres my two cents.
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Postby yoshi » Jan 2nd, '06, 21:21

I don't know if there's God or something like heaven or hell. I don't know if the Bible says truth or not, lot of ppl believe that it says, but for me it's just another riddle which probably won't be solved.

I believe that everybody have their own destination.. Moment of birth, death and so on, and we can't change it. Of course we're able to form our own lifes - the way we live it, marriage, kids, work, free time etc., but we cannot predict when it's gonna end. And after death.. I don't know what's happening when we die, [cause um.. no one could tell me..] but I don't believe that um.. it's just the end and there won't be anything after that, cause we can't just live and then die.. I mean something started and there must be a purpose.. Maybe we're going to start another life [reincarnation?] or maybe there's a place like heaven, where we all meet one day? And I'm not sure if I believe in um.. let's say "ghosts".. But I could say I believe in fact, that "they" might want to communicate with us.. [it may sound stupid, I know.]

I think religion is very problematic topic for ppl to talk. Everyone has his own beliefs - some of us believe in God, some don't.. But the most important thing that I believe in is everyone's own destination I think.. The rest is.. chaos.. :p
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Postby Curious » Jan 2nd, '06, 21:27

^I basically agree with what you say - I don't believe in God or any other religion for that matter either, although i find buddhism quite interesting but i just can't cope with the whole reincarnation idea. I don't believe in ghosts though. I don't believe there's a life after this, not in heaven nor on earth or anywhere else. I believe that this life is what we get, so we better make the most of it while we're here.
Religion is a means of explaining the unexplainable things in life and cope with the unbearable, and for some ppl it makes good sense to believe in religion, just not for me - i believe in science, the big bang, in evolution etc., from my pov there is no ultimate meaning to life, we create our own and are responsible for what we make of it and what we do to other human beings in the process.
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Postby yoshi » Jan 2nd, '06, 22:02

@ Curious:
Religion is a means of explaining the unexplainable things in life and cope with the unbearable, and for some ppl it makes good sense to believe in religion, just not for me - i believe in science, the big bang, in evolution etc.

^ Good point, I believe in science too. I don't get how could man just be made - we've got theory of evolution tho..

I can't say I believe in "ghosts", coming on Earth and bla bla bla, cause it sounds weird for me, but there are some coincidences which stay unsolved, unexplained.. Dunno how to say it, I don't want to sound like and idiot lol, but oh.. if I said "form of a condensed energy", it'd sound stupid :sweating: Ok, nevermind. But I definitely don't believe that we're going to be divided into "good" and "bad" ppl.. There's too much bad things on Earth that made me believe there's no justice..
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Postby Curious » Jan 2nd, '06, 22:17

Sarah wrote:well i think that ghosts are real, some people might not but its just what i think. and im not sure on the whole God thing, like i dont know what to believe in, like whether there is a afterlife or not, i try not to think about it too much and just live my life


that's fine, you're entitled to believe whatever works for you, it's not as if you're the only person who believes in ghosts - maybe i'll even start believing in them if i ever see one ;)
you say you're not sure about the God thing, and i think you share that uncertainty with the majority of ppl - I understand why ppl believe in religion since there's a large number of things that are unexplained like Yoshi said, but at the same time it has always amazed me how ppl can be absolutely sure that there is a God who created the universe and runs the show and just discard all the scientific research from the past hundreds of years.
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Postby Hocky27 » Jan 3rd, '06, 01:52

I belive in the scientific theory of the beggining of everything we know. Howver I do believe that there is a higher being then us as for what he does or has done i dont know. I like the idea of Buddhism and reincarnation because it would make sense as to where our energy goes. Plus it fits in with the law of conservation that matter cannot be destroyed just it changes form.

I have been brought up as Catholic but i stopped believing in it when i turned 8.
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Postby raider33 » Jan 3rd, '06, 09:32

IMO religion is just what curious said "explaining the unexplainable"...A thing we learned recently in school is what is a myth...If I remember corectly it should sound like this: "A sacred story passed forth from mouth to mouth.A beginning of all beginnings.". And it was explained, that people created myth to give themself an explinations to the things that seemed unnatural or extraordinary(as for instance the lightning was something strange and unexplainable so the poeple created zues ^^ but I'll be getting to ancient greece in a sec).And actually that is the religion just like a myth...And there are so many religions...And every religion has it's own god.Maybe the gods from all religions just sit in heaven drink nectar and laugh at us ^^
Some gods are pretty mych alike...Like the christians' god and Allah.
So ancient greece.Everyone was living their lives believing in 16987364 gods and heroes and titans and monsters and lake gods and I don't know what else.And everyone was fine with that.Other people with polytheistic religion believing in a shitload of gods were ok with the griece and sometimes took of their heroes or gods for their own(but changed the names)...AND SUDDENLY Jessus came and started saying there was only 1 god and that people should believe only him and no other god.And then came the problems.Maybe there is a god.But if there is he would wont like us posting that we don't believe in him so it's in our favor there isn't...



Oh and btw in the movie "the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" there was a part where a super inteligent race made a computer to calculate the answer to the purpose of life.After waiting for 7.5 milion years the answer was... 42.
lol I lmaoed on that one ^^

Sorry for the long post, cheers :flower:
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Postby Curious » Jan 3rd, '06, 22:57

raider33 wrote:Some gods are pretty mych alike...Like the christians' god and Allah.
So ancient greece.Everyone was living their lives believing in 16987364 gods and heroes and titans and monsters and lake gods and I don't know what else.And everyone was fine with that.Other people with polytheistic religion believing in a shitload of gods were ok with the griece and sometimes took of their heroes or gods for their own(but changed the names)...AND SUDDENLY Jessus came and started saying there was only 1 god and that people should believe only him and no other god.And then came the problems.Maybe there is a god.But if there is he would wont like us posting that we don't believe in him so it's in our favor there isn't...



I've gotta correct you on a few points, sorry about that :sweating:

You say the Christian's god and Allah are pretty much alike, but actually they are the same. The Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same God - first there was the Jewish religion, then came Jesus (who was not a Christian himself, he was born a Jew) and reinterpreted the Jewish religion, which later led to the formation of Christianity, and then Muhammed claimed to have gotten a revelation from God in 610 to rectify the distortion of the true faith in God that the Jews and Christians had been responsible for. But the 3 religions all believe in the same God.
Jesus didn't suddenly come and state that there was only one God, the Jews already believed in only one God - what Jesus wanted was to change the Jewish notion that obeying the 613 laws of the Torah was the road to salvation, where Jesus emphasised the love of one's neighbour and the belief in God's unlimited mercy. Jesus didn't revolt against the ancient greek religion, he wanted to change Judaism. Originally he had no intention of creating a new religion, he just wanted to reform the old one - it wasn't until after his death that Christianity was separated from Judaism, it started out as a Jewish sect.

The problems with religion didn't start with Jesus, there's been plenty of religious strife before him, and the belief in the old Greek and Roman Gods has naturally died out since science e.g. proved how lightning works etc.

Whether it's a problem for God that ppl post that they don't believe in him is a question of interpretation - some say that only believers will receive salvation, others that it doesn't matter whether you believe or not 'cause God is infinitely merciful and will admit you to his kingdom no matter what. The last interpretation is definitely the most attractive one for all us unbelievers ;)
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Postby raider33 » Jan 4th, '06, 10:05

^^ by pretty much alike I ment actually the same :P (dunno why I didn't say that :unsure: )
hmm I missed the Jews though.


Originally he had no intention of creating a new religion, he just wanted to reform the old one - it wasn't until after his death that Christianity was separated from Judaism, it started out as a Jewish sect.



Maybe so,but nevertheless the things that Jesus did weren't like by the empire and during his life and long after his death Christians were chased and tourchered until the separation of the empire in late 375(?) ^^
And somewhere arround that event Christianity was accepted as "legal" religion and a little bit later it was made an oficial religion(sorry but I forgot the emperors that made those reforms :sweating: ).

Thanks for the corretions ;)
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Postby the_cat_in_the_hat » Jan 20th, '06, 22:20

Did anyone watch I Heart Huckabess?

The answer to all your questions!
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