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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby James R. » Apr 22nd, '09, 02:30

imarun10 wrote:
James R. wrote:But bowing is how people show that they're weak. It's how someone says "You're better than me, so I'll offer you my vulnerable body."


I completely disagree with you. I think a bow is a sign of respect just like shaking hands. The two actions mean that same thing. There's no reason for this to even be news. I don't care about the greeting, so I don't see why other people do. The actual meeting is much more important than the way they greeted one another.

So then why is it that when two kings meet they don't bow to each other? The King of England and the King of France would never bow to each other, but Obama should go lowering his head to a dictator? That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm sorry, I don't go bowing to people who insult the things I stand for and support people who want to destroy the things I stand for. If it was a Japanese leader then sure, if it was ANY leader that didn't do the things he's done then fine. But keeping in mind the history that's fucking stupid.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Noeezy » Apr 22nd, '09, 02:45

James R. wrote:
imarun10 wrote:
James R. wrote:But bowing is how people show that they're weak. It's how someone says "You're better than me, so I'll offer you my vulnerable body."


I completely disagree with you. I think a bow is a sign of respect just like shaking hands. The two actions mean that same thing. There's no reason for this to even be news. I don't care about the greeting, so I don't see why other people do. The actual meeting is much more important than the way they greeted one another.

So then why is it that when two kings meet they don't bow to each other? The King of England and the King of France would never bow to each other, but Obama should go lowering his head to a dictator? That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm sorry, I don't go bowing to people who insult the things I stand for and support people who want to destroy the things I stand for. If it was a Japanese leader then sure, if it was ANY leader that didn't do the things he's done then fine. But keeping in mind the history that's fucking stupid.


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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby DelinQuent » Apr 22nd, '09, 03:33

right, you guys are so smart.

he should have walked in a spit on the guy. that'd be a great way to prevent another pointless war.

since WHEN does a fucking bow mean you are in submission?

if you go to a play, the entire cast bows as a way of showing respect and gratitude to the audience.

yet, Obama bows and suddenly he's a pussy lipped bitch.

you guys are all slightly outrageous, it's a bow, a sign of respect. even if the other person doesn't respect you, you should still show respect to them, otherwise you sink to their level. you talk about wanting him to be the BIGGER MORE POWERFUL RAWWWWRRRR MANNNN! yet when he's the bigger man by showing real respect you bash him.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Noeezy » Apr 22nd, '09, 03:53

DelinQuent wrote:right, you guys are so smart.

he should have walked in a spit on the guy. that'd be a great way to prevent another pointless war.

since WHEN does a fucking bow mean you are in submission?

if you go to a play, the entire cast bows as a way of showing respect and gratitude to the audience.

yet, Obama bows and suddenly he's a pussy lipped bitch.

you guys are all slightly outrageous, it's a bow, a sign of respect. even if the other person doesn't respect you, you should still show respect to them, otherwise you sink to their level. you talk about wanting him to be the BIGGER MORE POWERFUL RAWWWWRRRR MANNNN! yet when he's the bigger man by showing real respect you bash him.


"bow: To yield in defeat or out of courtesy; submit."
"submit: yield to another's wish or opinion; "The government bowed to the military pressure"'
"bending the head or body or knee as a sign of reverence or submission or shame or greeting"
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Robbie G » Apr 22nd, '09, 04:03

Delin,

Nobodies saying that he should have spit on him or started a war. Just that a handshake would have been more appropriate in that situation.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Noeezy » Apr 22nd, '09, 04:06

Shady Babie wrote:Delin,

Nobodies saying that he should have spit on him or started a war. Just that a handshake would have been more appropriate in that situation.


exactly, bowing is not customary in saudi arabia
if thats his way of showing respect why didnt he bow for the british queen?
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby James R. » Apr 22nd, '09, 04:08

DelinQuent wrote:right, you guys are so smart.

he should have walked in a spit on the guy. that'd be a great way to prevent another pointless war.

since WHEN does a fucking bow mean you are in submission?

if you go to a play, the entire cast bows as a way of showing respect and gratitude to the audience.

yet, Obama bows and suddenly he's a pussy lipped bitch.

you guys are all slightly outrageous, it's a bow, a sign of respect. even if the other person doesn't respect you, you should still show respect to them, otherwise you sink to their level. you talk about wanting him to be the BIGGER MORE POWERFUL RAWWWWRRRR MANNNN! yet when he's the bigger man by showing real respect you bash him.

1.) No one said he should spit on the man

2.) Let me see you bow to someone who supports people that are hellbent on torching and destorying your house.

Should Obama have gone and spoken with him? Yes. Should he have shown some sign of respect to him? Sure. Should he have BOWED to a man who is obviously Anti-America? Fucking NO. Don't be fucking retarded.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Noeezy » Apr 22nd, '09, 04:19

McMaybe wrote:Delin, you are by far the stupidest most irrational person I have ever had the liberty of posting in the same thread with.

You completely took everything everyone said here out of context, and to top of your initial moronic comment, you backed it up nicely with an even less resourceful one. A bow is NOT a sign of respect between leaders, under no circumstances. I made it clear in my first and second posts that this should NOT be taken as disrespect to any Arabic person. This and the gesture itself have nothing to do with respect. The man INSULTED this country while in our country. He deserves to be spat on, but a hand shake would have been respect enough.

How about next time Obama can just suck Bin laden's dick, would that make you happy? You conformist moron.

Do us all a favor, until you learn a bit about politics, and maybe a bit about foreign policy, don't comment. Oh wait, you're for the whole "freedom of speech" deal right? Than why don't you follow other written ethics?

:\ THE BIGGEST fucking SMH of my life.


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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby DelinQuent » Apr 22nd, '09, 12:47

McMaybe wrote:Delin, you are by far the stupidest most irrational person I have ever had the liberty of posting in the same thread with.

You completely took everything everyone said here out of context, and to top of your initial moronic comment, you backed it up nicely with an even less resourceful one. A bow is NOT a sign of respect between leaders, under no circumstances. I made it clear in my first and second posts that this should NOT be taken as disrespect to any Arabic person. This and the gesture itself have nothing to do with respect. The man INSULTED this country while in our country. He deserves to be spat on, but a hand shake would have been respect enough.

How about next time Obama can just suck Bin laden's dick, would that make you happy? You conformist moron.

Do us all a favor, until you learn a bit about politics, and maybe a bit about foreign policy, don't comment. Oh wait, you're for the whole "freedom of speech" deal right? Than why don't you follow other written ethics?

:\ THE BIGGEST fucking SMH of my life.


actually Maybe, i've done quite a bit of research on foreign policies and politics.

i find polotics to be QUITE rediculous at times. Seeing as how a bow is taken to an extreme, i find this whole topic to be quite rediculous.

Also, the fact that you're so overly bent out of shape comes off as rediculous.

I do agree, a handshake would have been better. You talk of taking things out of context but ALL i'm saying is that a bow shouldn't be taken so seriously. Perhaps, i didn't state that quite as clearly as i would have liked. or perhaps, you're just convinced that you're the smartest person you've ever met. :y:
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Mr. Cookie » Apr 22nd, '09, 19:56

he's probably tryin' to make the enemies his friend...and it's better to have a friend than an enemy...
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby imarun10 » Apr 22nd, '09, 22:15

McMaybe wrote:And for the record, I'm not American.


With that said, who cares what you think about Obama?! You've already stated you're opinion, which is fair enough. So now you can go busy yourself with your own country's politics.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby DelinQuent » Apr 23rd, '09, 01:43

Maybe... relaxxxx my dude lol. you're arguments are being nullified by your personal attacks on others.

i'd be the first to admit, i'm a tad ridiculous in my views.

BUT, wether you believe it or not, i know a great deal about the subject at hand. i still FIRMLY believe a bow was acceptable. so what if the guy's an anti-american terrorist asswipe, the fact still remains that we showed some respect while he didn't, to me, this makes the Saudi less of a man.

to whoever posted the definition of bow, learn that it has many meanings, one of them being a sign of respect http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=bow&search=search check out the 10th entry, friend.

when it's all said and done i still respect your opinion that a bow wasn't the way to go, but clearly you do not accept any one else's opinion.

also, i notice you didn't respond, you said you weren't an American... as far as i know you reside in Virginia...
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby DelinQuent » Apr 23rd, '09, 12:45

but the fact remains that a bow can be used as a sign of respect.

i'll be quite honest, i'm not sure how a bow is interpreted in Saudi Arabia, if it's considered a submission in Saudi Arabia, then i completely agree that a bow was entirely wrong.

a little off topic, but Maybe, if i may ask, what other country are you a citizen of? just curious, i find it interesting.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby James R. » Apr 23rd, '09, 13:58

It's not the bow. It's who he bowed to. If it were the prime minister of england or something no one would care, but this dude has been outspoken about anti-american causes I just don't see how I bow was in order. Everyone is making good points, and it all comes down to opinion/preference, but this guy really puts the dic in dictator.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby threeandtwenty » Apr 24th, '09, 18:56

i saw it more as a cultural thing...like in saudi you dont say wassap.
but then again he should have foreseen that american citizens (a majority of who supposedly have a very low inter-cultural tolerance) would never understand this and forced a greeting that worked better for him by just stretching out his hand.

so overall i think,dumb move.but not wrong move.
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