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Postby AspirinE » Jul 8th, '06, 09:04

TruEmFan wrote:first off...

the reason why i responded the way i did to this thread was cuz encore came out 2 years ago. and yet, i still find fans bitching and complaining about it :roll:

yeah, soperman, what you said could've been contructive criticism back in 2004, but when you hear it 2 fucking years later... it turns into bitching, therefore annoying.

and the fact that you say "i want the old eminem" and he needs to do this and that... i'ma say it again. an artist cannot stay the same forever. just cuz he is admired by millions of poeple, doens't mean he has to stay in one little box to make everyone happy. it's his life, his career, his music... let him do whatever he wants. if you don't like it, then stfu and stop complaining. no one is forcing you to listen to his music.

and to be honest, encore gets a lotta shit for the few songs that weren't that great. i found a perfect review for encore, and she labeled more than half the songs decent and quite good, and yet overall, she shitted on the record.

or some reason, the bad songs overcome the good songs on that record.

let's see...

evil deeds - good
never enough - good
yellow brick road - good
mosh - good
puke - good/bad
rain man - good/bad
my 1st single - bad
big weenie - bad
just lose it -good/bad
ass like that - bad
spend some time - good
mockingbird - good
crazy in love - good
one shot 2 shot - good/bad
encore - good

i know many ppl will disagree cuz after all, there are certaiun opinions... but this is just the general view i've got from different people from different places... now replace 2 of the bad songs with we as americans and love you more, (which was supposed to be on the record, but thanks to net ppl like us, they leaked, and had to be removed from the album) and you got a pretty decent album. maybe not his best, but far better than the other shit that i've heard.

my point is... if you want the old eminem back, then go listen to the mm lp and you'll get the old eminem. there's no point in telling someone what he/she should do.


it doesnt matter how much u review every song.. the fact that his album manages to leave a "Meh" felling and he kills the feeling of the album with some hidiouzs tracks and noises he does is why it gets hated... i stated that and merely that only.
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Postby FTW » Jul 8th, '06, 13:34

soperman005 wrote:ya'll can express ur opinions but it is a little rude to take shit personally and make verbal attacks towards me and shit tellin me em's gon make me suck his dick and shit.. i mean, danigantt, can u keep an open mind? shit everyone in this goddamn forum likes eminem jus he's doin some shit thats a bit questionable recently, specifically the lyrical content on encore.. i like his old voice better.. and its not that hes gettin older and shit because on some of his older shit he uses that deep voice.. for example he uses his deeper voice on the last verse on "stan" when he's rappin eminem's response to stan's letters and in "im back", both on the mmlp. I think it's the absence of his slim shady personlaity is the main contribution to his deeper voice on encore.. When he assumes the role of slim shady his voice is like hella higher pitched and shit. SO FUCKIN BRING BACK SLIM SHADY!!!!



u say u want Slim Shady back but the truth is Encore was Slim Shady thats basicly wat almost the whole album was the Eminem character was in some of the songs but most of that album was Slim Shady look it goes like this

Evil Deeds- Slim Shady
Never Enough- Eminem
Yellow Brick Road- Slim Shady
Like Toy Soldiers- Eminem
Mosh- Eminem
Puke- Slim Shady
My 1st Single- Slim Shady
Rain Man- Slim Shady
Big Weenie- Slim Shady
Just Lose It- Slim Shady
Ass Like That- Slim Shady
Spend Some Time- Eminem
Mockingbird- Eminem
Crazy In Love- Slim Shady
On Shot Two Shot- Slim Shady
Encore- Eminem

so thats 10 Slim Shady songs and 6 Eminem songs now if u thought Encore was shit then u wouldn't want Slim Shady back u'd want the Eminem character back so if u don't like Encore then don't say that u want Slim Shady back
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Postby FTW » Jul 8th, '06, 13:44

g_killa wrote:^ no cos the songs you claim are "slim shady" are not the same shady from years before. listen to the slim shady lp wheres the constant sound of fart noises and being sick etc ...its not there cos back then slim shady was dope and a well thought alias but now hes not the same i dont seesongs on encore or songs like my ballz or fack as slim shady



but u see Slim Shady is the funny sarcastic character and those songs were ment to be funny and sarcastic therefore there Slim Shady those songs are childish and Slim Shady is a childish caracter who jokes around alot now I agree there not as good as his old Slim Shady songs but there still Slim Shady I think what people really want is Eminem u know the more serious character not so much the childish Slim Shady character
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Postby FTW » Jul 8th, '06, 13:49

g_killa wrote:slim shady was full of multis and humour

the songs that are humourous on encore are just as lyrical as bizzare :p


I totally agree lyrically they suck u see it's Slim Shady thats fallin' off not Eminem. Eminem is lyrically amazing Slim Shady is the one who needs to up the skillz.
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Postby FTW » Jul 8th, '06, 13:59

g_killa wrote:thats why "slim shady" was "killed off" but thin is did he kille slim off? cos the touch it rmx seems like "shady" thats why ppl got to patiently wait for re up and then hopefully some questions will be awnsered


I don't think he killed him off he just gave him a break lol u see people got confused when they heard "When I'm Gone" the part where Eminem says "I turn around find a gun on the ground cock it put it to my brain scream die Shady and pop it" they thought that Eminem was killin' off Slim Shady but keep in mind when he says that part he's talking' about a dream that he had he didn't mean he actually was gonna kill off Slim Shady in the begining of the second verse he says "I keep havin' this dream" then he tells about the dream so basicly through out the entire 2nd verse and most of the 3rd verse he's talking bout a dream so from the part where he goes "I keep havin' this dream" to the part where he goes "thats when I wake up" people took it seriously and thought he killed Slim Shady off when really he just had a dream that Slim Shady was dead he didn't actually kill him off.
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Postby FTW » Jul 8th, '06, 14:02

g_killa wrote:hense why i put "killed off"


got it but don't u just hate it when "Stanatics" take his lyrics too seriously lol
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Postby eminemcaparica » Jul 8th, '06, 18:20

TruEmFan wrote:first off...

the reason why i responded the way i did to this thread was cuz encore came out 2 years ago. and yet, i still find fans bitching and complaining about it :roll:

yeah, soperman, what you said could've been contructive criticism back in 2004, but when you hear it 2 fucking years later... it turns into bitching, therefore annoying.

and the fact that you say "i want the old eminem" and he needs to do this and that... i'ma say it again. an artist cannot stay the same forever. just cuz he is admired by millions of poeple, doens't mean he has to stay in one little box to make everyone happy. it's his life, his career, his music... let him do whatever he wants. if you don't like it, then stfu and stop complaining. no one is forcing you to listen to his music.

and to be honest, encore gets a lotta shit for the few songs that weren't that great. i found a perfect review for encore, and she labeled more than half the songs decent and quite good, and yet overall, she shitted on the record.

or some reason, the bad songs overcome the good songs on that record.

let's see...

evil deeds - good
never enough - good
yellow brick road - good
mosh - good
puke - good/bad
rain man - good/bad
my 1st single - bad
big weenie - bad
just lose it -good/bad
ass like that - bad
spend some time - good
mockingbird - good
crazy in love - good
one shot 2 shot - good/bad
encore - good

i know many ppl will disagree cuz after all, there are certaiun opinions... but this is just the general view i've got from different people from different places... now replace 2 of the bad songs with we as americans and love you more, (which was supposed to be on the record, but thanks to net ppl like us, they leaked, and had to be removed from the album) and you got a pretty decent album. maybe not his best, but far better than the other shit that i've heard.

my point is... if you want the old eminem back, then go listen to the mm lp and you'll get the old eminem. there's no point in telling someone what he/she should do.


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Postby FTW » Jul 8th, '06, 19:48

TruEmFan wrote:@ FTW and g killa...

it's not a matter of reading too much into the lyrics.

he stated in an interview that it was the "death of slim shady." and when asked about it in another interview after, he answered with "that's for you to know, and me to find out."

i mean, i guess we can ignore what he's saying and pretend he didn't say them :unsure:



is that the same interview where he said he was takin' time off and every1 just assumed he was retireing. Come on man trust me Slim Shady is not dead and anybody who thinks he is, is gonna be in for a big supprise when Eminem comes back with more Shady material
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Postby bws-soldier » Jul 8th, '06, 21:44

i agree. cus encore and curtains call suckd compaired 2 his other albums
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Postby neha » Jul 8th, '06, 22:12

old eminem??? so he changed after one CD :unsure: i dunno what you are talkin about, seriously :p
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Postby eminemcaparica » Jul 9th, '06, 02:23

neha wrote:old eminem??? so he changed after one CD :unsure: i dunno what you are talkin about, seriously :p



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Postby Cyndi » Jul 9th, '06, 18:46

I personally enjoyed Enore. With everything he was going through it was a great album. I find it funny how the fans bitch & moan about it when they asked for it. He has gotten older & more mature anyone can tell from The Eminem Show. Most fans bitched & moaned about getting Slim Shady back, meaning the Just Don't Give A Fuck, class clown guy who gave you My name is & The Real SlimShady. Stupid shit. As for his lyrics they're fine to me. He is a lyrical fuckin' genius in my opinion. I loved every track on Encore & I'm not saying that just to be a suck up. I enjoy everything he does. That's him.A fuckin' class clown, then he's a fuckin' dark, rude genius. Talking about killing stabbing slicing.....you get my drift. Then it's Marshall & his feelings.

Encore, to me was pretty much him apologizing for every fuckin' thing that happend with he racist shit, then him addressing Benzino for the final time. After he's done that he just has fun. Shit, I wouldn't blame him. The album to me was emotional then funny as always. Even with Ass like that, that was him addressing what happend with Triumph the comic dog. That was genius. He ws basically saying he gets flack from everything he says but triumph does the same thing & people laugh. So he took on his personality to get away with it. But most fans say that was tasteless. How? When he did the same shit on SSlp & MMlp when he talks about NSync Backstreet boys, Britney & so forth. It's the same antics. He just brought it to the recent stars that were getting big. Big Weenie talks about Benzino once again makes fun of him. Funny shit.

His verse on Touch it remix was ass? Not to me. It was great. Shit I mean how do you ask why is he screaming Aah aah aah on the verse? That's him he changes shit. They turn the fuckin' beat up & they start yellin' their verses. So he yelled Aah aah aah . He said he don't even know why he was yellin' on that part of the song. Just listen to it. He's great to me. That's my opinion. I loved Fack too. Funny shit & I'm to be 21 years old this year, so maybe something is wrong with my sense of humor. Like I said b4 his fans are complaining 4 him to be Shady. He's not Shady anymore he's older but he always tries to please us so he wrote that shit. Proof even said on an interview while they were tour that it was hard for him to write Encore. He only did what you people asked & you weren't satified. As for me I was & will always be. Long live the King :worship: :king:
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Postby FTW » Jul 9th, '06, 19:06

Cyndi wrote:I personally enjoyed Enore. With everything he was going through it was a great album. I find it funny how the fans bitch & moan about it when they asked for it. He has gotten older & more mature anyone can tell from The Eminem Show. Most fans bitched & moaned about getting Slim Shady back, meaning the Just Don't Give A Fuck, class clown guy who gave you My name is & The Real SlimShady. Stupid shit. As for his lyrics they're fine to me. He is a lyrical fuckin' genius in my opinion. I loved every track on Encore & I'm not saying that just to be a suck up. I enjoy everything he does. That's him.A fuckin' class clown, then he's a fuckin' dark, rude genius. Talking about killing stabbing slicing.....you get my drift. Then it's Marshall & his feelings.

Encore, to me was pretty much him apologizing for every fuckin' thing that happend with he racist shit, then him addressing Benzino for the final time. After he's done that he just has fun. Shit, I wouldn't blame him. The album to me was emotional then funny as always. Even with Ass like that, that was him addressing what happend with Triumph the comic dog. That was genius. He ws basically saying he gets flack from everything he says but triumph does the same thing & people laugh. So he took on his personality to get away with it. But most fans say that was tasteless. How? When he did the same shit on SSlp & MMlp when he talks about NSync Backstreet boys, Britney & so forth. It's the same antics. He just brought it to the recent stars that were getting big. Big Weenie talks about Benzino once again makes fun of him. Funny shit.

His verse on Touch it remix was ass? Not to me. It was great. Shit I mean how do you ask why is he screaming Aah aah aah on the verse? That's him he changes shit. They turn the fuckin' beat up & they start yellin' their verses. So he yelled Aah aah aah . He said he don't even know why he was yellin' on that part of the song. Just listen to it. He's great to me. That's my opinion. I loved Fack too. Funny shit & I'm to be 21 years old this year, so maybe something is wrong with my sense of humor. Like I said b4 his fans are complaining 4 him to be Shady. He's not Shady anymore he's older but he always tries to please us so he wrote that shit. Proof even said on an interview while they were tour that it was hard for him to write Encore. He only did what you people asked & you weren't satified. As for me I was & will always be. Long live the King :worship: :king:


I 100% agree with you. As for lyrics I don't think the lyrics on that album were all that great but I like every song on the album
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Postby tamara » Jul 9th, '06, 19:06

Cyndi wrote:I personally enjoyed Enore. With everything he was going through it was a great album. I find it funny how the fans bitch & moan about it when they asked for it. He has gotten older & more mature anyone can tell from The Eminem Show. Most fans bitched & moaned about getting Slim Shady back, meaning the Just Don't Give A Fuck, class clown guy who gave you My name is & The Real SlimShady. Stupid shit. As for his lyrics they're fine to me. He is a lyrical fuckin' genius in my opinion. I loved every track on Encore & I'm not saying that just to be a suck up. I enjoy everything he does. That's him.A fuckin' class clown, then he's a fuckin' dark, rude genius. Talking about killing stabbing slicing.....you get my drift. Then it's Marshall & his feelings.

Encore, to me was pretty much him apologizing for every fuckin' thing that happend with he racist shit, then him addressing Benzino for the final time. After he's done that he just has fun. Shit, I wouldn't blame him. The album to me was emotional then funny as always. Even with Ass like that, that was him addressing what happend with Triumph the comic dog. That was genius. He ws basically saying he gets flack from everything he says but triumph does the same thing & people laugh. So he took on his personality to get away with it. But most fans say that was tasteless. How? When he did the same shit on SSlp & MMlp when he talks about NSync Backstreet boys, Britney & so forth. It's the same antics. He just brought it to the recent stars that were getting big. Big Weenie talks about Benzino once again makes fun of him. Funny shit.

His verse on Touch it remix was ass? Not to me. It was great. Shit I mean how do you ask why is he screaming Aah aah aah on the verse? That's him he changes shit. They turn the fuckin' beat up & they start yellin' their verses. So he yelled Aah aah aah . He said he don't even know why he was yellin' on that part of the song. Just listen to it. He's great to me. That's my opinion. I loved Fack too. Funny shit & I'm to be 21 years old this year, so maybe something is wrong with my sense of humor. Like I said b4 his fans are complaining 4 him to be Shady. He's not Shady anymore he's older but he always tries to please us so he wrote that shit. Proof even said on an interview while they were tour that it was hard for him to write Encore. He only did what you people asked & you weren't satified. As for me I was & will always be. Long live the King :worship: :king:


:worship: :worship: i admire u..lol..finaly someone that has the same opinion as me :happy: i loved encore,and i agree with everything u said..its a big text but i read all and i agree with everything EVERYTHIng u said..and i love fack too and rain man and whatever its just em so its good..and his verse on touch it remix was fuckin awsome in my opinion..i loved when he did ahaha cuz it makes sense from what he is sayin..but yeah everyone got diferent opinions and theres nothin wrong wqith your sense of humor..lol..but ppl have dif opinions..but dont worry cuz i believe that there are lots of ppl like us :flower: and em will alwyas alwyas be a fuckin genious!!he is the king of kings ;)
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Postby Cyndi » Jul 9th, '06, 20:34

Nice to know I'm not the only one out there who appreciates his efforts. I was beginning to sweat. :sweating: Thanks for replying. Maybe we should ban together to let him know his efforts are appreciated. LOL All jokes aside, I'm glad to see there are other people who got the meaning of Encore. That there are people who read between the lines of the jokes & saw what it really meant. He worked hard on it & he deserves credit. :coffee: :hooray: Yeah, there are people with their own opinions just like I have mine. I just wish they'd see he was trying & that he has changed & except it. These are the things that drives him nuts. :scratching: He almost worked himself to death. :stretcher: Fan are suppose to support an artist through change. :guitar: They may not like it but don't whine about it. :argue: I guess that's just my opinion.
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