Stanley C. wrote:Well think about it. Why isn't he the greatest?
When you think G.O.A.T, most people think Pac, Nas, Biggie, Rakim, etc. But why doesn't Eminem come to mind? Not only does he outdo all of the above rappers, but he has traits of them all and does it way better than them.
Eminem has flow. Name 1 rapper that has a better flow than Eminem.
Eminem has multis. Name 1 rapper that does better multis than Eminem.
Eminem has Lyrics. Name 1 rapper that does better lyrics than Eminem.
Eminem has a message. Name 1 rapper that has better messages in his songs than Em.
Want proof? Listen to Lose Yourself or Rock Bottom. Tell me 1 Nas song that is as lyrical as that. And don't give me that "Illmatic bullshit" because that's boring as hell.
I supposed you rarely gave the other rappers a listen before creating this thread, but I'll still go in depth about your question.
Flow - The Notorious B.I.G. had much better flow than Eminem. Flow is not how your voice sounds, if you were going to back up your claim with tracks like "The Way I Am"; that's delivery. Just listen to tracks like "Everyday Struggle". That's an example of perfected flow.
Even Eminem admitted himself he practiced his flow for months just so he could match up with Biggie on the song "Dead Wrong". Method Man also has better flow than Eminem. No, flow is not what you think it is, so don't get into random bullshit when trying to disprove my claims.
Multies - Admittedly, Eminem is one of the greatest at multi-combination, although many of his recent multies involving serial killing are just to put words together and make minimal sense. But, there are, arguably, better multi-craftsmen, such as Kool G Rap, Rakim, ect.
Doubt me? Check out Kool G's solo debut and Rakim's The 18th Letter album.
Lyrics - This is far too general. Lyricism involves multies, message, content, wordplay, and metaphors. And there are many other factors to judge lyricism.
Eminem does not have the best lyrics. Simple as that. No one really has the best lyrics. You can't compare a rap song that talks about raping to a rap song that talks about women's right. Nor can you compared a rap song that talks about internet bootlegging and a rap song that talks about swimming. You can't compare a topic so general.
But Eminem is far from being a master at wordplay or content. Relapse is a prime example in a lack of imagination and Nas has better metaphors. Canibus has better punches, in general. Every rapper has their attributes, so no use in comparing such a general term. Break it up, will you?
Message - Eminem easily does NOT have the best messages/content in his tracks.
Yes, I know you'll rant about "Lose Yourself" and "Rock Bottom". They talk about life struggles. Countless numbers of MCs did that before him, some better. Yes, Eminem talked about politics in "White America" and "Mosh". Countless numbers of MCs did that before him, many better. (Public Enemy, Ice Cube, Immortal Technique)
You call the tracks on Relapse possessing a good message?
You call "Kim" having a good message?
For example, the Common track "Retrospect for Life" has a topic that delves into abortion and its influence and risks. Tracks like "It's a Man's World" talk about sexism. "Keep Ya Head Up" positively encourages women to not succumb to the world. That's called true messages, not murder/rape.
And don't downplay the "Illmatic bullshit", 'cause that album is better than any of Eminem's.
EDIT: Your signature is bullshit. My signature has better lyrics then yours. Check it.
EDIT2: You gave no evidence to your claims; therefore I cannot believe you until you have put forth at least some examples to back up your statements, which are currently, bullshit. Bring it.
EDIT3: Welcome to the forum. You and I will many fun discussions.









. Impersonations? Are you serious? Now who's the immature one. 


