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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby DƎRDYPK » Dec 23rd, '09, 16:54

Slill_Slim_Shady wrote:becouse My Darling and CWYWF are from his drug period and for Refill the songs suposed to be for R2.
You people are stupid or what


Only track that was done during his "drug period" was "Beautiful" :y:
I remember reading an interview or something somewhere where he said he wrote it in (or when he got out of) rehab :b:
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby embm » Dec 23rd, '09, 18:19

yea tats wat i said somwhere else
it wulda been betta
i want a betta quality luv those songs esp my darling
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby Berry » Dec 23rd, '09, 22:58

This shows you didn't purchase the album cuz my version has it. :happy:
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 23rd, '09, 23:21

It was included with the deluxe edition of Relapse that's why. Along with "Careful What You Wish For".

It's also because it was clearly a 2007 or early 2008 recording. Out of 'that' batch which will tentatively be referred to as King Mathers. "Beautiful" was also from 'that' batch. You can tell they were all done at the same time too. Slow, growly flows and simplistic wordplay as Em's head was still cloudy.

"My Darling" should of been on Relapse as track 2 though. I think it was originally made as track 2 for King Mathers maybe and I think Em made a similar Dr. West-like skit for the intro for that too. Since the voice on "My Darling" sounds exactly like the demon coming in on Dr. West, even saying "darling" on it.

Em said he went back and listened to even The Slim Shady EP. So I think he was re-creating that intro. "My Darling" would of been the perfect track 2 for Relapse too though. The skit leads into that.
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby pfati » Dec 23rd, '09, 23:29

EminemBase wrote:It was included with the deluxe edition of Relapse that's why. Along with "Careful What You Wish For".

It's also because it was clearly a 2007 or early 2008 recording. Out of 'that' batch which will tentatively be referred to as King Mathers. "Beautiful" was also from 'that' batch. You can tell they were all done at the same time too. Slow, growly flows and simplistic wordplay as Em's head was still cloudy.

"My Darling" should of been on Relapse as track 2 though. I think it was originally made as track 2 for King Mathers maybe and I think Em made a similar Dr. West-like skit for the intro for that too. Since the voice on "My Darling" sounds exactly like the demon coming in on Dr. West, even saying "darling" on it.

Em said he went back and listened to even The Slim Shady EP. So I think he was re-creating that intro. "My Darling" would of been the perfect track 2 for Relapse too though. The skit leads into that.

u're also wrong about when the bonus tracks were recorded
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 23rd, '09, 23:37

^^ No I'm not. King Mathers was being made in 2007.

To the original poster too, the reason the tracks that are on Refill that are is because those tracks are some of the 'original' Relapse 2. It's new material. Just not the newest material. So he doesn't wanna put leftovers or old songs in with them obviously.
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby dR3 » Dec 24th, '09, 00:04

EminemBase wrote:^^ No I'm not. King Mathers was being made in 2007.



I think it was just a rumour which Cashis started.
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 00:23

dR.dR3 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^^ No I'm not. King Mathers was being made in 2007.



I think it was just a rumour which Cashis started.

nope it was true,it was an emotional album,but Em decided to do another one :flower:
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby dR3 » Dec 24th, '09, 01:17

BILI wrote:
dR.dR3 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^^ No I'm not. King Mathers was being made in 2007.



I think it was just a rumour which Cashis started.

nope it was true,it was an emotional album,but Em decided to do another one :flower:


He changed the emot. album for Relapse? DAMN WHAT HAS GOTTEN INTO HIM
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 01:19

^^yep,he said smh like"it wasnt that good lyrically",but I think that it woulda be better then Relapse
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 24th, '09, 01:24

BILI wrote:
dR.dR3 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^^ No I'm not. King Mathers was being made in 2007.



I think it was just a rumour which Cashis started.

nope it was true,it was an emotional album,but Em decided to do another one :flower:


Indeed.

Em just scrapped all the material because it wasn't 'current' enough but he said himself he felt 'Beautiful' was the only one out of the batch which was up to par and worth keeping. He didn't like the fact it was all self-loathing material and his wordplay and flows were so slow.

I kind of agree but I think it probably would of still been an amazing album. I mean "My Darling" is just amazing. He should of at least re-did the concept with new lyrics / flow or something. What a waste to just keep this track as a bonus throwaway.

Ca$his said King Mathers was the best album he'd ever heard. He said this after Eminem scrapped it and did Relapse though so that statement isn't any pre-album hype talk. Was obviously something fantastic about it. It's annoying that we won't ever get to hear it. Em is a real artist and says he puts his life into his music so whilst I was getting a bit bored of the self-loathing shit too, it was all too predictable - He should of put King Mathers out since that's where he was at, at that point.

If he wants to document his true troubles and thought on CD then King Mathers should of come out man even if it wasn't up to par lyrically I bet he more than made up for it in emotion and concepts.

It's probably the reason he's re-done Relapse 2 and said it's more emotional etc. Mr. Porter also said there's no 'quaky music' on the new R2. Em did say that he was originally banging his head on the wall trying to re-invent himself but it was Dre who convinced him people wanted Shady. Which is annoying because whilst I love the serial killer shit and love his new manic flows / wordplay... I feel like that stumped Em's artistic growth. Fuck knows what he would of come up with but he was trying to re-invent himself, that's majorly exciting. And Dre kept him stuck in the past. Stupid shit.

With Em saying he don't care what people think no more and he's just gonna do him, he didn't do that for Relapse, he listened to other people. Exactly what he said he ain't doing now. I think he was just trying to please the fans with it.

Probably why he's re-done R2 as I say. He probably didn't even wanna make Relapse like that and now it got a mixed reaction he probably thought fuck it, lets just do R2 as I want it to be done. Which is a great thing. So I'm glad Relapse did get a mixed reaction from critics. I bet that did something. And now R2 is shaping up to be a masterpiece.
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 01:28

^^Yeah I agree wit you

And I think that we`ll probably hear King Mathers some day,maybe after Em dies,or smh,but we`ll probably hear more stuff from it
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 24th, '09, 01:34

I think unfortunately all we'll get is them released periodically over the next 40 years as in, either whilst he's alive but as bonus tracks on compilations etc. Or after he's dead on posthumous releases which have been chopped up and mixed and turned into bullshit.

We ain't ever gonna see all tracks in full arragement, as one album, presented as they should be. Fucking annoying.
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 01:40

EminemBase wrote:I think unfortunately all we'll get is them released periodically over the next 40 years as in, either whilst he's alive but as bonus tracks on compilations etc. Or after he's dead on posthumous releases which have been chopped up and mixed and turned into bullshit.

We ain't ever gonna see all tracks in full arragement, as one album, presented as they should be. Fucking annoying.

Yeah,it is kinda annoying :(
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Re: why isn't my darling on refill?

Postby venomous_volatile » Dec 24th, '09, 01:55

You get my darling and CWYWF on the itunes version,

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