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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby AOBrien09 » Feb 9th, '10, 17:29

Alaine wrote:Underground rap fans stopped fucking with him since Encore cuz he turned to popstar (start from TES actually)
Mainstream stopped fucking with him since Relapse cuz he turned to a serial killer and not being a popstar anymore. And not to mention the weird accent put people off :shakehead:

I don't know if we're talking about Em as an emcee or a star in this thread but if we're talking about Em's career in general, Relapse definitely hurts his career the most. You only have one chance to prove people after 5 years & the let down Encore, but he kinda fucked it up :shakehead: Relapse just didn't live up to the hype and a rather forgettable album.

Em lost either way.


Agree with this :y: I also still can't forget the bruno incident hard to take a rapper seriously when he's had another mans ball in his face anyway we all forgot about that though :shifty:
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby shadyisland » Feb 9th, '10, 18:20

The legacy that Em has built up has put him among the best ever. He managed to balance being non-mainstream with still being able to connect with alot of people, which is why he is one of the most popular rappers in terms of hype and sales. Fans always go crazy wherever he shows up. If relapse 2 dissapoints, however, people can always say that he is just another rapper who fell off later in his career. He has an opportunity to only enhance his legacy with an excellent album toward the end of his career, something that not everyone can say.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Arrinef » Feb 9th, '10, 18:51

AOBrien09 wrote:
Alaine wrote:Underground rap fans stopped fucking with him since Encore cuz he turned to popstar (start from TES actually)
Mainstream stopped fucking with him since Relapse cuz he turned to a serial killer and not being a popstar anymore. And not to mention the weird accent put people off :shakehead:

I don't know if we're talking about Em as an emcee or a star in this thread but if we're talking about Em's career in general, Relapse definitely hurts his career the most. You only have one chance to prove people after 5 years & the let down Encore, but he kinda fucked it up :shakehead: Relapse just didn't live up to the hype and a rather forgettable album.

Em lost either way.


Agree with this :y: I also still can't forget the bruno incident hard to take a rapper seriously when he's had another mans ball in his face anyway we all forgot about that though :shifty:


dude, stop reminding me about that shit :shakehead:
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby professor » Feb 9th, '10, 19:09

bitchin, bitchin, bitchin. thats all hear about Relapse. What the fuck you want him to do, rap about his life again. Go listen to fuckin MMLP or TES if you want that. Relapse is unique in its own way. Eminem won a fuckin grammy for Relapse! dude is killin. Just because he doesnt show his face around public everywhere he goes doesnt make him irrelevent.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Emadyville » Feb 9th, '10, 19:18

professor wrote:bitchin, bitchin, bitchin. thats all hear about Relapse. What the fuck you want him to do, rap about his life again. Go listen to fuckin MMLP or TES if you want that. Relapse is unique in its own way. Eminem won a fuckin grammy for Relapse! dude is killin. Just because he doesnt show his face around public everywhere he goes doesnt make him irrelevent.


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I think every artist in music or not has shit that "brought them down" so to speak, but eminem always came back from that shit, in fact he usually embraces it (GLAAD protests grammy's so he performs with elton) so I don't know really what else to say.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby shadyaftermathers88 » Feb 9th, '10, 21:37

I'd have to say that ONLY the middle part of Encore is what hurt his career & put a lil tarnish in his legacy.....He was on pace to not even have a crack in his legacy until the mistakes on Encore, which lead to FACK, which btw I like but can acknowledge its a poor song lol Touchdown included but id say thats all, Relapse may have lowered his mainstream appeal & success/sales but he dont care bout that stuff & I think that was his aim to begin with since he was on record sayin he didnt want that level of fame anymore, just wanted to do his thing...............
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby pfati » Feb 9th, '10, 21:55

i dont think relapse hurt his career... i thought it would right after it came out but i was really fuckin surprised cause i know alot of people that stopped likin him after encore but after relapse they thought he was dope as hell... but, they didnt like beutiful cause most my friends thought he was bitchin too much... lol but i had a friend tell me he loved him now since he came back to spittin about drugs and serial killer shit lol
although in general i still think encore>relapse .. although i still loved relapse
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby EminemInsider » Feb 9th, '10, 23:43

Alaine wrote:Underground rap fans stopped fucking with him since Encore cuz he turned to popstar (start from TES actually)
Mainstream stopped fucking with him since Relapse cuz he turned to a serial killer and not being a popstar anymore. And not to mention the weird accent put people off :shakehead:

I don't know if we're talking about Em as an emcee or a star in this thread but if we're talking about Em's career in general, Relapse definitely hurts his career the most. You only have one chance to prove people after 5 years & the let down Encore, but he kinda fucked it up :shakehead: Relapse just didn't live up to the hype and a rather forgettable album.

Em lost either way.


Well, it's official; you're a complete fucking idiot.

How the fuck could it be a disappointing album after you'd heard ENCORE and REUP, dipshit?

Anyone who expected something along the lines of his first 3 albums was a delusional buffoon.

The album was nothing short of SHOCKINGLY GOOD considering the circumstances. He literally nearly died, put out absolutely atrocious music from 2003-2007...and you think RELAPSE hurt his legacy?

"Em lost"...you lost when you ate paint chips as a baby. I'd tell you, "down the road, not across the street"...but you wouldn't even get it. So instead, I'll just suggest that you kill yourself.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Alaine » Feb 10th, '10, 05:11

EminemInsider wrote:
Alaine wrote:Underground rap fans stopped fucking with him since Encore cuz he turned to popstar (start from TES actually)
Mainstream stopped fucking with him since Relapse cuz he turned to a serial killer and not being a popstar anymore. And not to mention the weird accent put people off :shakehead:

I don't know if we're talking about Em as an emcee or a star in this thread but if we're talking about Em's career in general, Relapse definitely hurts his career the most. You only have one chance to prove people after 5 years & the let down Encore, but he kinda fucked it up :shakehead: Relapse just didn't live up to the hype and a rather forgettable album.

Em lost either way.


Well, it's official; you're a complete fucking idiot.

How the fuck could it be a disappointing album after you'd heard ENCORE and REUP, dipshit?

Anyone who expected something along the lines of his first 3 albums was a delusional buffoon.

The album was nothing short of SHOCKINGLY GOOD considering the circumstances. He literally nearly died, put out absolutely atrocious music from 2003-2007...and you think RELAPSE hurt his legacy?

"Em lost"...you lost when you ate paint chips as a baby. I'd tell you, "down the road, not across the street"...but you wouldn't even get it. So instead, I'll just suggest that you kill yourself.


Insulting other is such a nice way to start a post :shakehead:

so you're saying you didn't expect the album to be good at all 'considering the circumstances'? sorry but there's not point to talk about his health and stuff , he chooses to put out the album so we have the right to judge, you're saying like he knows it's not good himself when he made it or something, if that's the case he SHOULDN'T have put out the album at all. :coffee:

Again, the thread is about "Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy", it's bound to be negative, so if you can't take it maybe you shouldn't enter it from first place. And your post makes you look like a butthurt child really :coffee:
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Berry » Feb 10th, '10, 05:20

A few stupid songs off the Encore album, The foolish pride song.

Puttin Fack on his greatest hits album (But thats Em's sense of humor for you :happy: )

Thats it.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Feb 10th, '10, 05:25

EminemInsider wrote:
Well, it's official; you're a complete fucking idiot.

How the fuck could it be a disappointing album after you'd heard ENCORE and REUP, dipshit?

Anyone who expected something along the lines of his first 3 albums was a delusional buffoon.

The album was nothing short of SHOCKINGLY GOOD considering the circumstances. He literally nearly died, put out absolutely atrocious music from 2003-2007...and you think RELAPSE hurt his legacy?

"Em lost"...you lost when you ate paint chips as a baby. I'd tell you, "down the road, not across the street"...but you wouldn't even get it. So instead, I'll just suggest that you kill yourself.

That's one of the most unnecessarily disrespectful posts I've ever seen, regardless of what your opinion is. Don't ever do that again, to Alaine or to anyone.

On topic, I honestly think that his notorious reputation as a drug addict hurts his legacy more than anything else. When someone can look at a great record by Eminem OR a terrible record by Eminem and say "that was only the result of drugs", it's detrimental to his character either way.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Arrinef » Feb 10th, '10, 05:53

EminemInsider wrote:
Alaine wrote:Underground rap fans stopped fucking with him since Encore cuz he turned to popstar (start from TES actually)
Mainstream stopped fucking with him since Relapse cuz he turned to a serial killer and not being a popstar anymore. And not to mention the weird accent put people off :shakehead:

I don't know if we're talking about Em as an emcee or a star in this thread but if we're talking about Em's career in general, Relapse definitely hurts his career the most. You only have one chance to prove people after 5 years & the let down Encore, but he kinda fucked it up :shakehead: Relapse just didn't live up to the hype and a rather forgettable album.

Em lost either way.


Well, it's official; you're a complete fucking idiot.

How the fuck could it be a disappointing album after you'd heard ENCORE and REUP, dipshit?

Anyone who expected something along the lines of his first 3 albums was a delusional buffoon.

The album was nothing short of SHOCKINGLY GOOD considering the circumstances. He literally nearly died, put out absolutely atrocious music from 2003-2007...and you think RELAPSE hurt his legacy?

"Em lost"...you lost when you ate paint chips as a baby. I'd tell you, "down the road, not across the street"...but you wouldn't even get it. So instead, I'll just suggest that you kill yourself.


damn dude you need help :shakehead:


but yeah, i think after encore he probably did lose some fans, or listeners. But relapse reopened those doors, and gave back what we were missing in the game. You can lay down all of gucci mane's stuff and wouldnt even hurt 1 track on relapse lyrically.

To me, i think relapse re-won him alot of respect for alot of the content in his shit too, Em even had icp fans on youtube saying 3 am was dope, so that has to mean something :smoking:
Legacy wise, all artists take a stumble, and if you really think about it, his legacy is still EMbraced to this day, something other rappers dont get. Its not often you see other rappers begging like a bitch to be on a track with you :coffee:
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Evan C. » Feb 10th, '10, 05:58

GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:
Well, it's official; you're a complete fucking idiot.

How the fuck could it be a disappointing album after you'd heard ENCORE and REUP, dipshit?

Anyone who expected something along the lines of his first 3 albums was a delusional buffoon.

The album was nothing short of SHOCKINGLY GOOD considering the circumstances. He literally nearly died, put out absolutely atrocious music from 2003-2007...and you think RELAPSE hurt his legacy?

"Em lost"...you lost when you ate paint chips as a baby. I'd tell you, "down the road, not across the street"...but you wouldn't even get it. So instead, I'll just suggest that you kill yourself.

That's one of the most unnecessarily disrespectful posts I've ever seen, regardless of what your opinion is. Don't ever do that again, to Alaine or to anyone.

On topic, I honestly think that his notorious reputation as a drug addict hurts his legacy more than anything else. When someone can look at a great record by Eminem OR a terrible record by Eminem and say "that was only the result of drugs", it's detrimental to his character either way.

Her post was pretty retarded. So the mediocre comeback album is MORE damaging to his legacy than the awful album that damaged his reputation in the first place?

That isn't great logic to say the least.
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby Alaine » Feb 10th, '10, 06:03

Evan C. wrote:
GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:
Well, it's official; you're a complete fucking idiot.

How the fuck could it be a disappointing album after you'd heard ENCORE and REUP, dipshit?

Anyone who expected something along the lines of his first 3 albums was a delusional buffoon.

The album was nothing short of SHOCKINGLY GOOD considering the circumstances. He literally nearly died, put out absolutely atrocious music from 2003-2007...and you think RELAPSE hurt his legacy?

"Em lost"...you lost when you ate paint chips as a baby. I'd tell you, "down the road, not across the street"...but you wouldn't even get it. So instead, I'll just suggest that you kill yourself.

That's one of the most unnecessarily disrespectful posts I've ever seen, regardless of what your opinion is. Don't ever do that again, to Alaine or to anyone.

On topic, I honestly think that his notorious reputation as a drug addict hurts his legacy more than anything else. When someone can look at a great record by Eminem OR a terrible record by Eminem and say "that was only the result of drugs", it's detrimental to his character either way.

Her post was pretty retarded. So the mediocre comeback album is MORE damaging to his legacy than the awful album that damaged his reputation in the first place?

That isn't great logic to say the least.

did you even read my post :shakehead: I said Relapse hurts his career as a mainstream artist as it certainly did. Encore may damage his image as an emcee more but that wasn't my point :coffee:
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Re: Anything put a damper on Eminem's legacy

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Feb 10th, '10, 06:08

Evan C. wrote:Her post was pretty retarded. So the mediocre comeback album is MORE damaging to his legacy than the awful album that damaged his reputation in the first place?

That isn't great logic to say the least.

Even if you disagree with her opinion, that doesn't give EminemInsider clearance to attack her personally.
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