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Re: The Reunion

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 5th, '11, 22:10

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WilyMo021 wrote:Great song, hook is nice. I feel like they committed to a concept more than people are picking up on. Em is Evil, pretty apparent in his treatment of the fat trailer park bitch. Royce is bad, connotation implying cool. Nice car, being a g, fucking bitches.


The song actually does tell a story, someone would be dumb not to pick up on it...they basically tell the tale of their "reunion." Song is a classic, it's the Em I want to hear more of. And Royce handles the storytelling pretty well, too.


Hmm, that part must have went over my head. Let me listen to the song again..

EDIT.

Yes you are right, it seems they do meet up towards the end of the song. Anyways, what I am saying is on the way to the "reunion" they are both very in character. Em is very EVIL. and Royce is very BAD. Bad as in, yeah he is a terrible person, but there is some cool sprinkled in there.


Yes, I know, it's a great concept song, and I really wish that Em does more like it, or that BME do more like it if, by any chance, they make a full LP. This song is so great because Em is actually sticking to a story, and the vast improvement makes it a standout.
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Came back to annihilate, the game's in dire straights, as I await
Word on Satan, as I drop, fall to my knees before this Quija board and I pray
Now I lay me down to sleep
I do this shit in my sleep, I’m sleepin' now, imagine if I awake


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Re: The Reunion

Postby One Mic » Jun 5th, '11, 23:01

I don't know if I am just getting carried away because this is fresh, and hasn't long leaked, but I'd say this is up there with the very best BME tracks. Certainly one of my favourite BME tracks of all-time.

I'll have to comment in about 6 months though, to see if I still feel like this.

But without a doubt the best song on the EP for me.

I want this voice/flow more often from Em
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Re: The Reunion

Postby EminemBase » Jun 5th, '11, 23:05

One Mic wrote:I don't know if I am just getting carried away because this is fresh, and hasn't long leaked, but I'd say this is up there with the very best BME tracks. Certainly one of my favourite BME tracks of all-time.

I'll have to comment in about 6 months though, to see if I still feel like this.

But without a doubt the best song on the EP for me.

I want this voice/flow more often from Em


Wow really? I can't believe how many people are raving about this track SO much.

It's so meh to me. It's got a class hook but it's a pretty aimless / silly story and isn't told amazingly well, and the flow(s) and rhyming aren't incredible either. I honestly think it's just being overrated because Em isn't yelling or using an accent on it and people are nostalgic.

For me, it's nowhere near "Bad Meets Evil" or "Scary Movies", or "Nuttin' to Do". Lyrically, or conceptually or flow-wise, they're just other-worldly in comparison.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 5th, '11, 23:10

Geno wrote:Oh wow, I can't believe the entire "Reunion" concept went over my head. I mean, I knew there was a concept...I just didn't catch that part.

Em..Evil, is following his story line with the girl (fans) who don't like Relapse - which fits the chorus, breaking his fans heart with his music.

And Royce, Bad, is following his own story line. At the end they reunite. Bad Meets Evil again and they're back to business. :worship:


I REALLY noticed it while I was doing my review for the EP, and I was analyzing everything they were saying and I realized the entire concept. I love it.
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Word on Satan, as I drop, fall to my knees before this Quija board and I pray
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Re: The Reunion

Postby bradleycity » Jun 5th, '11, 23:10

One of the best Em songs since he came back.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 5th, '11, 23:13

bradleycity wrote:One of the best Em songs since he came back.


I agree. :y:
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Re: The Reunion

Postby MikeBett » Jun 5th, '11, 23:18

Yeah I agree, I love this song. It's the one i've replayed the most. And it's funny because it's right when Eminem talking about being mean to women was so tired and all he ever talked about etc etc...But then he comes with this shit and made it fresh again lol

My favorite line: Get the fuck in back, put on your slut powder you slut! ...LMAO
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Re: The Reunion

Postby unbannemesis » Jun 5th, '11, 23:54

It's funny how nowadays a nonembarassing Eminem song = classic :laughing:

I guess everything's relative to what he's putting out now.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby NextEpisode » Jun 6th, '11, 00:02

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One Mic wrote:I don't know if I am just getting carried away because this is fresh, and hasn't long leaked, but I'd say this is up there with the very best BME tracks. Certainly one of my favourite BME tracks of all-time.

I'll have to comment in about 6 months though, to see if I still feel like this.

But without a doubt the best song on the EP for me.

I want this voice/flow more often from Em


Wow really? I can't believe how many people are raving about this track SO much.

It's so meh to me. It's got a class hook but it's a pretty aimless / silly story and isn't told amazingly well, and the flow(s) and rhyming aren't incredible either. I honestly think it's just being overrated because Em isn't yelling or using an accent on it and people are nostalgic.

For me, it's nowhere near "Bad Meets Evil" or "Scary Movies", or "Nuttin' to Do". Lyrically, or conceptually or flow-wise, they're just other-worldly in comparison.


You might have a point, Embase, but... Looking at this song from a "music-perspective", without picking the song apart, analyzing it... I find that, when I'm just simply listening to the song (basically), I can just sit back, and enjoy what I'm hearing. When I hear Em shouting like he's about to explode, with that extreme shot voice, on songs that really doesn't need it, I can't say the same.

Just as you point out, he doesn't yell/his voice actually sounds good/most people (the average listener) can actually get what he says the first/second time listening to the song/It's got story-telling (even if it maybe isn't mind-blowing)/it's got that type of Em-feel that you get when listening to tracks like "Kill You" etc./during the song he changes his voice from calm to angry, in a very smooth way, without sounding shot, and without screaming...

And people getting nostalgic, is a good thing right? if the 2011 Em, reminds of the 2001 Em, it should be a good sign? Because, 2001 (or w/e), was when Em was in his absolute prime.

Just my opionon though.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby Kez » Jun 6th, '11, 00:13

I just noticed that if you listen, when he says hes trying to hear some Bagpipes from Baghdad, you can hear a bit of the song in the background. Nice little touch haha

Also re the discussion above me, I don't like the track just because he doesn't shout in it lmao. I really mainly just found the references to Relapse very funny, and Royce's swagger line made me laugh out loud the first time.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby EminemBase » Jun 6th, '11, 00:23

NextEpisode wrote:Looking at this song from a "music-perspective", without picking the song apart, analyzing it... I find that, when I'm just simply listening to the song (basically), I can just sit back, and enjoy what I'm hearing. When I hear Em shouting like he's about to explode, with that extreme shot voice, on songs that really doesn't need it, I can't say the same.


Well this is maybe where I differ to most fans here then, as when I hear "Almost Famous"... obviously I don't 'sit back' like... it's not that kind of a track. It's hyper and intense. But, I find it extremely enjoyable and satisfying, as I do with "Above the Law" and I find it much more satisfying than "The Reunion" where there isn't much of a flow structure, or intensity or ton of rhyming to what he's saying so... after the intensity of his latest madness, it just underwhelms me.

But, I'm one of the few who like his 'shouty flows'. I don't find that he sounds shot because, he's obviously forcing it but he knows that's obvious, with little nods to it in his lyrics like on "Above the Law" with "but my voice is sore". And I find it funny that he's making such an effort to sound so INSANELY angry for no apparent reason :laughing: , which makes it an indulgence and a style, rather than genuine.

Which, to me just makes it funny and badass for some reason, as it's like he loves being angry so will do anything to create it, even if there's no reason. Like he's doing it to annoy people, there's a bit of character in that. Rather than being true-to-life and self-serious, which bores me.

That aside, I just love the sound of it. Like the "Fame" verse. Where he repeats the same rhyme structure and emphasizes each one like that. It's just like cocaine to me.

Where as "The Reuinion" is more like, he's just 'talking' babble, too much swearing and he's not saying anything particularly clever or lyrical. It's basic storytelling and he's not doing it in a way that he hasn't done better before or in a way that's especially new. So it doesn't do much for me. And his flow on it doesn't have the usual addictive or, melodic structure of his best stuff either.

NextEpisode wrote:And people getting nostalgic, is a good thing right? if the 2011 Em, reminds of the 2001 Em, it should be a good sign? Because, 2001 (or w/e), was when Em was in his absolute prime.


Um... well I don't know. I don't think it is good, not to me anyway because a great artist to me is an artist that evolves and builds on what they've done. Not one that rehashes or looks back. Or even recreates.

I mean, I know he's openly looked back and harped back and done all sorts of lyrical and theoretical nods within his lyric to past work but, he rarely goes backwards with his SOUND. He's always moving, always pushing for a new sound each time round.

So, if I hear something I've heard before and, done worse than what I heard before in that way, I don't see any reason for it to exist. Unless it's extremely enjoyable. Which that song isn't to me. The chorus is very good but I don't find the rest of the song particularly memorable at all.

When I listen to new material I want to think "wow, I've never heard him do that before" or "this is unlike anything I would of ever expected". I want to be surprised and blown away. And the first time I heard Relapse, or songs like "Buffalo Bill" I got that. And I even got that with say "Almost Famous" and some of Recovery.

That song definitely doesn't do that for me though. I want him to move forwards.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby JasonOne99 » Jun 6th, '11, 00:41

This is the first time I don't agree with Eminembase.
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Re: The Reunion

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 6th, '11, 00:41

EminemBase wrote:
NextEpisode wrote:Looking at this song from a "music-perspective", without picking the song apart, analyzing it... I find that, when I'm just simply listening to the song (basically), I can just sit back, and enjoy what I'm hearing. When I hear Em shouting like he's about to explode, with that extreme shot voice, on songs that really doesn't need it, I can't say the same.


Well this is maybe where I differ to most fans here then, as when I hear "Almost Famous"... obviously I don't 'sit back' like... it's not that kind of a track. It's hyper and intense. But, I find it extremely enjoyable and satisfying, as I do with "Above the Law" and I find it much more satisfying than "The Reunion" where there isn't much of a flow structure, or intensity or ton of rhyming to what he's saying so... after the intensity of his latest madness, it just underwhelms me.

But, I'm one of the few who like his 'shouty flows'. I don't find that he sounds shot because, he's obviously forcing it but he knows that's obvious, with little nods to it in his lyrics like on "Above the Law" with "but my voice is sore". And I find it funny that he's making such an effort to sound so INSANELY angry for no apparent reason :laughing: , which makes it an indulgence and a style, rather than genuine.

Which, to me just makes it funny and badass for some reason, as it's like he loves being angry so will do anything to create it, even if there's no reason. Like he's doing it to annoy people, there's a bit of character in that. Rather than being true-to-life and self-serious, which bores me.

That aside, I just love the sound of it. Like the "Fame" verse. Where he repeats the same rhyme structure and emphasizes each one like that. It's just like cocaine to me.

Where as "The Reuinion" is more like, he's just 'talking' babble, too much swearing and he's not saying anything particularly clever or lyrical. It's basic storytelling and he's not doing it in a way that he hasn't done better before or in a way that's especially new. So it doesn't do much for me. And his flow on it doesn't have the usual addictive or, melodic structure of his best stuff either.

NextEpisode wrote:And people getting nostalgic, is a good thing right? if the 2011 Em, reminds of the 2001 Em, it should be a good sign? Because, 2001 (or w/e), was when Em was in his absolute prime.


Um... well I don't know. I don't think it is good, not to me anyway because a great artist to me is an artist that evolves and builds on what they've done. Not one that rehashes or looks back. Or even recreates.

I mean, I know he's openly looked back and harped back and done all sorts of lyrical and theoretical nods within his lyric to past work but, he rarely goes backwards with his SOUND. He's always moving, always pushing for a new sound each time round.

So, if I hear something I've heard before and, done worse than what I heard before in that way, I don't see any reason for it to exist. Unless it's extremely enjoyable. Which that song isn't to me. The chorus is very good but I don't find the rest of the song particularly memorable at all.

When I listen to new material I want to think "wow, I've never heard him do that before" or "this is unlike anything I would of ever expected". I want to be surprised and blown away. And the first time I heard Relapse, or songs like "Buffalo Bill" I got that. And I even got that with say "Almost Famous" and some of Recovery.

That song definitely doesn't do that for me though. I want him to move forwards.


I've never had a problem with them either, for some reason. They sound even better on the EP.
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Word on Satan, as I drop, fall to my knees before this Quija board and I pray
Now I lay me down to sleep
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Re: The Reunion

Postby Hadez » Jun 6th, '11, 01:19

anybody else notice the beginning of Royce's first verse:

Royce wrote:Pull up to the club in a Porsche, not a Pinto
While Marshall's at a white trash party, I'm at drama central

is a play on "White Trash Party"

Eminem wrote:Pull up to the club in a Pinto like it's a Porsche
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Re: The Reunion

Postby randomgirl » Jun 6th, '11, 02:02

Hadez wrote:anybody else notice the beginning of Royce's first verse:

Royce wrote:Pull up to the club in a Porsche, not a Pinto
While Marshall's at a white trash party, I'm at drama central

is a play on "White Trash Party"

Eminem wrote:Pull up to the club in a Pinto like it's a Porsche

Yes I thought that was pretty funny when I heard it haha.
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