What does it take for Eminem to be "Relevant"?

[RealSickLindley]

Now are we talking about 50 as the artist or as the personality?

[Alaine]

Now are we talking about 50 as the artist or as the personality?

Both. I agree he could be more creative with his music. But he's still relevant. Diddy is relevant and he hasn't put out a record in years. I'm talking about popular culture. 50 is still relevant.

we all talking about POPular culture here 50 is not relevant. Diddy is not relevant. Now Drake is relevant. Wayne is relevant. It's too obvious

[Berry]

There seems to be a few Jay comparisons...

BP3 wasn't that great, It's just the singles had crazy commercial value & HOLY f**k look at how much love he gets from the masses now.

[InMy64]

y'all are getting too deep. i still think if he dresses up like a vampire, he will instantly become relevant. i mean, just look at all those twilight people.

[Arrinef]

its sad that a good rapper needs to follow in all this hype just to get noticed. whatever happened to real hip hop?

i hope em comes hard with R2.

[Alaine]

You are out of it IMO. How is Diddy not relevant? How is 50 Not relevant? Please explain. There on the radio, the tv, every gossip site and at damn near every award show. Movies, Records, and Business ventures, and endorsements. If that's not relevant tell me what is, pleeaase.

lol I think you are out of it. 50's single did have radio play but it didn't even crack top 20 on iTunes, let alone Billboard, that proves nobody checking for him anymore. And just ask a casual listener if they know 50 or Diddy still making music, bet my life they don't know
what does Business ventures and endorsements have to do with musical relevancy? They're not relevant because nobody's checking for them. They can attend all the awards show they want but it doesn't matter when people don't give a fuck about them, if anything that just means they try to be outgoing and stay active to their fans. I HONESTLY can't understand how can you say 50 is even close to relevant when his album is flopping harder than a rock And before you say record sale doesn't mean anything, please, fact proves the opposite. Wayne sells, Drake sells (his EP sold more than 50's album), Kayne sells, Jay-Z sells, Em sells. Em 's relevancy is only behind Drake, Wayne, Jay-, Kanye now, because they're all over the hit features while he's not. Just ask LilWayne4life, even a hater like him can tell you that

[csg370]

y'all are getting too deep. i still think if he dresses up like a vampire, he will instantly become relevant. i mean, just look at all those twilight people.

hahaha!

*I fucking hate all of those people affiliated with Twilight.

[RealSickLindley]

y'all are getting too deep. i still think if he dresses up like a vampire, he will instantly become relevant. i mean, just look at all those twilight people.

hahaha!

*I fucking hate all of those people affiliated with Twilight.

Good books, bad films, alot of crazy teens

[Alaine]

Sales don't mean shit. It doesn't, in any way, say how popular a person is these days. AND pop culture isn't just music, its CULTURE. 50 has stayed relevant since he came out. He's getting looked over more, no doubt and he isn't building buzz like he use to but he's still relevant. Diddy has his shows on MTV and VH1 that were breaking records, and clothing lines that are damn near a billion dollar companies. He's at least produced two number one albums (if you're that stuck on chart success) in the past two years. And like I said before, there all over the place. Every site, every station, every channel. Diddy musically, we won't know until he puts out his record next year. Diddy is getting played on the radio right now. 50 is too. He still selling records isn't he, not as much as he use to, but he still is. If 50 isn't relevant just because of sales then Em isn't either. He sold 3 million ww in 8 months or so but that's nothing compared to the 20 million he did on TES. You don't base all of a persons success of sales alone.

Em dropped from 1 mili first week to 600k
50 dropped from 1mili first week to 150k
If you really can't see the difference than
And no, how much money they have from doing "other business than music" have NOTHING to do with their musical relevancy, no one cares about that. At his prime Em was never known for showing off his money or something, and Jay-Z was always doing big business but we all knew who was more relevant. It takes Jay-Z HITS to be relevant again even though he's the richest out there. The only relevant "business" in music is sale and it pretty much equals musical success (not quality), why do you need radio play? to sell records.
Basically you listed all the things that you said makes them relevant but actually they don't have anything to to with them as a musician.

[Alaine]

That was my point. Was "I Love College" a hit? How many records did asher sale? Was "Day N Nite" a hit? How many records did Cudi sale? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SALES. Yes, they are musicians so at the end of the day if they aren't putting out good records they will become irrelevant, there is no argument there. BUT being relevant isn't just all based on that. Popluar culture. Justin Timberlake hasn't put out a record in years, he's still relevant. Halle Berry hasn't done a movie all year, she's still relevant. Do you get what I am saying? Kim Kardashian hasn't done anything but she is relevant. That is Pop culture. Kanye didn't put out a record this year, does that make him irrelevant? NO!

"I Love College" went platinum, it was a hit. But his buzz died out after the album release.

Justin Timberlake hasn't put out SOLO project in years, but he jumps on many hit features (Dead & Gone, Love Sex Magic..), that's the same with Wayne, Kayne, they didn't have any SOLO hit this year but they're pretty much on everybody's songs. Kayne got nominated for 6 Grammys this years, ALL from features. In fact, collab is what keeps everybody relevant these days as it help artists to branch out their fanbase.

And don't talk movie stuff here, it's irrelevant to topic. Judging relevancy in movie field is totally different than music field.

[Alaine]

um, who gives a fuck about 'relevance'? lady gaga is the most relevant & popular in music today, & she's fucking terrible. i hate her & i hate her music.

GaGa maybe the best mainstream pop star that come across in recent years.

[Alaine]

so you're saying the relevant artists are the attention whores who will jump on any song, no matter how bad it is, & feature in it to get some exposure. yeah, that sounds about right

kanye west fucking sucks. Lil Wayne sucks. what a coincidence

pretty much, this is not about how shitty a song is, it''s about what's viewed as "catchy" & "popular". Kanye & Wanye jumped on a lot of hit songs (mind hits don't equal quality) and it worked, keeping them relevant with mainstream audience while preparing for next solo project.

[Alaine]

That was my point. Was "I Love College" a hit? How many records did asher sale? Was "Day N Nite" a hit? How many records did Cudi sale? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SALES. Yes, they are musicians so at the end of the day if they aren't putting out good records they will become irrelevant, there is no argument there. BUT being relevant isn't just all based on that. Popluar culture. Justin Timberlake hasn't put out a record in years, he's still relevant. Halle Berry hasn't done a movie all year, she's still relevant. Do you get what I am saying? Kim Kardashian hasn't done anything but she is relevant. That is Pop culture. Kanye didn't put out a record this year, does that make him irrelevant? NO!

"I Love College" went platinum, it was a hit. But his buzz died out after the album release.

Justin Timberlake hasn't put out SOLO project in years, but he jumps on many hit features (Dead & Gone, Love Sex Magic..), that's the same with Wayne, Kayne, they didn't have any SOLO hit this year but they're pretty much on everybody's songs. Kayne got nominated for 6 Grammys this years, ALL from features. In fact, collab is what keeps everybody relevant these days as it help artists to branch out their fanbase.

And don't talk movie stuff here, it's irrelevant to topic. Judging relevancy in movie field is totally different than music field.

The movie stuff is relevant to this topic. ITS POP CULTURE. I said that 30 times. Pop culture. I'm not just talking about music because music isn't all of what Pop culture consist of. Thats why its called Popular Culture!!

so you mean we can always compare actors and musicians just because they're all entertainers? wtf? There's a reason we have separated awards for movie and music you know.

[Alaine]

um, who gives a fuck about 'relevance'? lady gaga is the most relevant & popular in music today, & she's fucking terrible. i hate her & i hate her music.

GaGa maybe the best mainstream pop star that come across in recent years.

Disco Stick is one of the worst songs i've heard in recent years.

her lyrics can be stupid at some parts but as a mainstream popstar, GaGa's good at what she does: making catchy music on her own. She can also perform live with instruments and not lip-sync. After all, she's a entertainer, that's pretty much what people want from a popstar.

[Tash8]

That's some bullshit man. Beatles may be the greatest band ever, but they aren't relevant today.

it's kinda hard to be relevant when half your group members are dead, am i right?