Dr. Dre

[shadyboymez]

Dre is 44, will be 45 in February, which is really hard to believe...but I agree. If there is a Detox, it needs to get out before nobody takes it seriously. I swear I first heard of that album in like 2002.

Its nice to see a lot of Dre supporters come through because yesterday it was basically 2 guys defending Dre's career and 1 guy hatin on him.

[ShaBruv]

didnt he sample the beat for till i collapse from we will rock you by queen

[RealSickLindley]

didnt he sample the beat for till i collapse from we will rock you by queen

The drums and claps definitly, it's what gives it that special ability to get you hyped.

[M-Pyre]

in a nuttshell: eminemshow.


but yeah: dre is an awesome producer!

[M-Pyre]

i can't believe people are saying eminem's a better producer than Dr Dre in this thread. wow.

i believe someone cited "Cleaning Out My Closet" as an eminem beat superior to dre's. this is really shoddy production (the drums sound so lame, the snare is weak as hell) & most of dre's catalog blows it out of the water. compare eminem's drums with dr dre's drums (which sound so much more crisp & thumping).

listen to how embarrassing a beat like "My 1st Single" is. the drums are some of the most annoying, clicky sounds ever. in fact, eminem's lacklustre skills with drums has made many of his beats mediocre (crap drums in Mockingbird, Yellow Brick Road, Marshall Mathers).

most of the songs on The Chronic & 2001 (along with everything made for other artists) destroy eminem's production (apart from beats like lose yourself & 'till i collapse, which are fantastic i'll admit).

wow, your ignorant!

drums are definitely an important factor when mentioning good beats. but no where in hell does it mean the beat will overall be better then beats with an inferior drummix or lesser drums to begin with.

take COMC for example. imo, the beat is perfect and close to being one of the best in eminems production catalogue. creativly and melodicly it beats atleast 50 % out of all those on the chronic 2001.
the truth of the matter is, dr dre is overrated when it comes to his overall productionscheme. just because he has had allot of good hits in the past doesn't mean he is overall the best producer. now, eventho I think he is one of the best still hanging in the game, I do acknowledge him not being consistent enough to keep praising him whenever someone's talking about the best. now take eminem for instant. he will never surpass dre's superior mixing skills and feel for the westcoast community, but, creatively, he is way beyond. where dre usually (not always) keeps to his formula, eminem go's further. now ofcourse eminem does not have such a big repertoire when compared to dre, but relatively, eminem has been more consistent then dre ever has. now I could name names and give you my personal statistical opinion composed chart, but that is just a hassle.

feel free to discuss.

[RealSickLindley]

i can't believe people are saying eminem's a better producer than Dr Dre in this thread. wow.

i believe someone cited "Cleaning Out My Closet" as an eminem beat superior to dre's. this is really shoddy production (the drums sound so lame, the snare is weak as hell) & most of dre's catalog blows it out of the water. compare eminem's drums with dr dre's drums (which sound so much more crisp & thumping).

listen to how embarrassing a beat like "My 1st Single" is. the drums are some of the most annoying, clicky sounds ever. in fact, eminem's lacklustre skills with drums has made many of his beats mediocre (crap drums in Mockingbird, Yellow Brick Road, Marshall Mathers).

most of the songs on The Chronic & 2001 (along with everything made for other artists) destroy eminem's production (apart from beats like lose yourself & 'till i collapse, which are fantastic i'll admit).

wow, your ignorant!

drums are definitely an important factor when mentioning good beats. but no where in hell does it mean the beat will overall be better then beats with an inferior drummix or lesser drums to begin with.

take COMC for example. imo, the beat is perfect and close to being one of the best in eminems production catalogue. creativly and melodicly it beats atleast 50 % out of all those on the chronic 2001.
the truth of the matter is, dr dre is overrated when it comes to his overall productionscheme. just because he has had allot of good hits in the past doesn't mean he is overall the best producer. now, eventho I think he is one of the best still hanging in the game, I do acknowledge him not being consistent enough to keep praising him whenever someone's talking about the best. now take eminem for instant. he will never surpass dre's superior mixing skills and feel for the westcoast community, but, creatively, he is way beyond. where dre usually (not always) keeps to his formula, eminem go's further. now ofcourse eminem does not have such a big repertoire when compared to dre, but relatively, eminem has been more consistent then dre ever has. now I could name names and give you my personal statistical opinion composed chart, but that is just a hassle.

feel free to discuss.

See where you're coming from, when you say "Dre isn't one of the best in the game, NOW"..

You could argue that as far as material being released..

But one thing you gotta remember..

While Dre might not be one of the best now, neither is eminem.

[M-Pyre]

didnt he sample the beat for till i collapse from we will rock you by queen

not really. the drum rythm has been around for ages and melodically they're just not comparable. and btw, if it's the drumrytme which is being sampled.. square dance should be up there to.

[M-Pyre]

i can't believe people are saying eminem's a better producer than Dr Dre in this thread. wow.

i believe someone cited "Cleaning Out My Closet" as an eminem beat superior to dre's. this is really shoddy production (the drums sound so lame, the snare is weak as hell) & most of dre's catalog blows it out of the water. compare eminem's drums with dr dre's drums (which sound so much more crisp & thumping).

listen to how embarrassing a beat like "My 1st Single" is. the drums are some of the most annoying, clicky sounds ever. in fact, eminem's lacklustre skills with drums has made many of his beats mediocre (crap drums in Mockingbird, Yellow Brick Road, Marshall Mathers).

most of the songs on The Chronic & 2001 (along with everything made for other artists) destroy eminem's production (apart from beats like lose yourself & 'till i collapse, which are fantastic i'll admit).

wow, your ignorant!

drums are definitely an important factor when mentioning good beats. but no where in hell does it mean the beat will overall be better then beats with an inferior drummix or lesser drums to begin with.

take COMC for example. imo, the beat is perfect and close to being one of the best in eminems production catalogue. creativly and melodicly it beats atleast 50 % out of all those on the chronic 2001.
the truth of the matter is, dr dre is overrated when it comes to his overall productionscheme. just because he has had allot of good hits in the past doesn't mean he is overall the best producer. now, eventho I think he is one of the best still hanging in the game, I do acknowledge him not being consistent enough to keep praising him whenever someone's talking about the best. now take eminem for instant. he will never surpass dre's superior mixing skills and feel for the westcoast community, but, creatively, he is way beyond. where dre usually (not always) keeps to his formula, eminem go's further. now ofcourse eminem does not have such a big repertoire when compared to dre, but relatively, eminem has been more consistent then dre ever has. now I could name names and give you my personal statistical opinion composed chart, but that is just a hassle.

feel free to discuss.

See where you're coming from, when you say "Dre isn't one of the best in the game, NOW"..

You could argue that as far as material being released..

But one thing you gotta remember..

While Dre might not be one of the best now, neither is eminem.

yeah I know. I was just saying that eminem isn't that far allong. for example, eminem killed dre on the MM LP and the eminem show. but on encore and the slimshady LP it's a different story...tho encore was pretty close.. can't say nothing about relapse really :P

[RealSickLindley]

Am i right in thinking this was Dre's last beat..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPB82NY24i4

Which IMO bangs like nothing else, try playin' that blasted up in the car with the windows open..

[shuxams]

wow, your ignorant!

drums are definitely an important factor when mentioning good beats. but no where in hell does it mean the beat will overall be better then beats with an inferior drummix or lesser drums to begin with.

take COMC for example. imo, the beat is perfect and close to being one of the best in eminems production catalogue. creativly and melodicly it beats atleast 50 % out of all those on the chronic 2001.
the truth of the matter is, dr dre is overrated when it comes to his overall productionscheme. just because he has had allot of good hits in the past doesn't mean he is overall the best producer. now, eventho I think he is one of the best still hanging in the game, I do acknowledge him not being consistent enough to keep praising him whenever someone's talking about the best. now take eminem for instant. he will never surpass dre's superior mixing skills and feel for the westcoast community, but, creatively, he is way beyond. where dre usually (not always) keeps to his formula, eminem go's further. now ofcourse eminem does not have such a big repertoire when compared to dre, but relatively, eminem has been more consistent then dre ever has. now I could name names and give you my personal statistical opinion composed chart, but that is just a hassle.

feel free to discuss.

psh by that logic, premo is overrated for sticking to his formula. so is timbaland. so is just blaze. so is kanye. so was rza when he was in his prime. so is stoupe. etc etc etc. producers in general have their own "style" or "formula" and imo, producers who try to be too creative and experimental all the time usually fall off. i don't want premo to stop making 90's boom bap type beats cuz that shit is ill. i don't want stoupe to get off the violent by design vibe cuz that's his forte. and yes i want dre to keep bringing that west coast g-funk.

you are obviously not a hip hop head but a fan of music who happens to like eminem. i love music as a whole and i'm a fan of many genres but people like you expose yourselves when critiquing hip hop because you have no idea what youre talkin about. hip hop is not about making the most original musical scores, this ain't classical music homie. it's about hard beats and rhymes, sampled or not.

[Omar Khalid]

Am i right in thinking this was Dre's last beat..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPB82NY24i4

Which IMO bangs like nothing else, try playin' that blasted up in the car with the windows open..

great song I'm a have to put it on a CD and try and get it to bump now

The beat is fire

[shadyboymez]

i dont know how people can say Dre doesnt have it anymore when Relapse was full of bangin Dre beats.

I am anxious to hear some new Em flows over other peoples beats, but I still think we'll see a good 5 Dre beats on R2.

Dre's production >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em's production . No question

[Relapse.LP]

wow, your ignorant!

drums are definitely an important factor when mentioning good beats. but no where in hell does it mean the beat will overall be better then beats with an inferior drummix or lesser drums to begin with.

take COMC for example. imo, the beat is perfect and close to being one of the best in eminems production catalogue. creativly and melodicly it beats atleast 50 % out of all those on the chronic 2001.
the truth of the matter is, dr dre is overrated when it comes to his overall productionscheme. just because he has had allot of good hits in the past doesn't mean he is overall the best producer. now, eventho I think he is one of the best still hanging in the game, I do acknowledge him not being consistent enough to keep praising him whenever someone's talking about the best. now take eminem for instant. he will never surpass dre's superior mixing skills and feel for the westcoast community, but, creatively, he is way beyond. where dre usually (not always) keeps to his formula, eminem go's further. now ofcourse eminem does not have such a big repertoire when compared to dre, but relatively, eminem has been more consistent then dre ever has. now I could name names and give you my personal statistical opinion composed chart, but that is just a hassle.

feel free to discuss.

psh by that logic, premo is overrated for sticking to his formula. so is timbaland. so is just blaze. so is kanye. so was rza when he was in his prime. so is stoupe. etc etc etc. producers in general have their own "style" or "formula" and imo, producers who try to be too creative and experimental all the time usually fall off. i don't want premo to stop making 90's boom bap type beats cuz that shit is ill. i don't want stoupe to get off the violent by design vibe cuz that's his forte. and yes i want dre to keep bringing that west coast g-funk.

you are obviously not a hip hop head but a fan of music who happens to like eminem. i love music as a whole and i'm a fan of many genres but people like you expose yourselves when critiquing hip hop because you have no idea what youre talkin about. hip hop is not about making the most original musical scores, this ain't classical music homie. it's about hard beats and rhymes, sampled or not.

Stoupe > Timabaland, Just Blaze, Kanye West

[pfati]

i dont know how people can say Dre doesnt have it anymore when Relapse was full of bangin Dre beats.

I am anxious to hear some new Em flows over other peoples beats, but I still think we'll see a good 5 Dre beats on R2.

Dre's production >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em's production . No question

relapse beats werent that great,,, em chose really simple beats to spit on,, the beats on refill were dope though, they seemed fuller

[Relapse.LP]

Relapse beat-wise, Dre really screwed up some instrumentals on there.

His snares were way too loud for my listening pleasure at times, especially on Must Be the Ganja.