Royce Da 5'9" to work with Eminem

[MikeNUFC]

^True, after Em does R2, I reckon he'll sort out signing them, then they can go about making music.

But signing to Shady will be the stupidiest make Slaughterhouse can make. They probably wont have an album out again in the next 5 years if they do that, unless Em makes SR independent.

[nujet2002]

People say Em fell off, Royce fell off harder.

This is just a sad joke.... Eminem obviously did fall off at one point, theres no debating that and I don't think anybody thinks he's back to his prime and probably won't ever be. Royce on the other hand is at his pinnacle right at this moment. Just because he's not selling records and all over the radio does not mean he fell off.

A sad joke or a sad reality? Don't want to derail the thread but I'll entertain your argument via Pm if you insist.

By sad joke I meant that its a ridiculous statement to make. I'm not saying that Royce is or ever was a better rapper than Eminem. But I think its a pretty absurd statement to make in saying that Royce has fallen off harder than Eminem fell off... Eminem went from being the best rapper alive to D12 World where his features were weak to say the least to Encore which you could say was an average album by most standards to being drugged up for four years in which the random guest verses he was randomly on were all pretty weak. He's definitely jumped back to an above average rapper and hopefully will prove he's the best ever with relapse 2 but I can't see how you can possibly ever say that Royce fell off harder than Eminem did... Even if you disagreement with my opinion that he's at his pinnacle of his career right now, I've seen him up as the best rapper of 2008 without even releasing a full length album just based on his guest verses and then Street Hop and Slaughterhouse were both sick albums.

I guess its all opinion tho, I just heavily disagreed with your statement.

[nujet2002]

sorry but I'm confused, if his later albums are not as good as the previous, of course that's call falling off right If he did not fell off, he would still give us amazing albums right.

ok I think he did fell off at one point BUT unlike most people, he had reasons for his fall-off (drugs mostly), that's why I think he can get up and that's why R2 will be a classic

No I disagree. Falling off isn't dipping in quality wise slightly.

Falling off to me is selling out, losing your integrity, purposely changing your image and objectives to a very strong degree for the wrong reasons.

He did none of the above. He was the same guy, he still said what he wanted, he exercised in artistic freedom - In fact more so, he put out a very vocal challenge to the president at large. He in no way fell off. He didn't put as much effort in, sure, he wasn't as good, sure. But that's not falling off IMO.

People can't just keep getting better FOREVER. Everybody has dips and peaks.

we definitely has different view in falling off then. To me fall-off and sell-out are completely different. Fall-off to me is that you are not as good as you were before ( not just slightly, but a big gap quality). Em was never a sell-out though.

I completely agree. Sell out is a way different thing than falling off in my mind

[EminemInsider]

No that's bullshit. Em never fell off. He got bored, lazy and overworked. But MOSH is not falling off. Encore wasn't as good as the previous albums but he in no way fell off.

And in terms of pure lyricism, he's back better than ever. And R2 will probably be his new peak. Em took a break, he didn't fall off and he's not 'off' now. He's very much on.

sorry but I'm confused, if his later albums are not as good as the previous, of course that's call falling off right If he did not fell off, he would still give us amazing albums right.

ok I think he did fell off at one point BUT unlike most people, he had reasons for his fall-off (drugs mostly), that's why I think he can get up and that's why R2 will be a classic

No I disagree. Falling off isn't dipping in quality wise slightly.

Falling off to me is selling out, losing your integrity, purposely changing your image and objectives to a very strong degree for the wrong reasons.

He did none of the above. He was the same guy, he still said what he wanted, he exercised in artistic freedom - In fact more so, he put out a very vocal challenge to the president at large. He in no way fell off. He didn't put as much effort in, sure, he wasn't as good, sure. But that's not falling off IMO.

People can't just keep getting better FOREVER. Everybody has dips and peaks.

Uh huh, right, Eminem didn't do any of that stuff. He didn't become a completely different person or anything...






I do agree that he didn't "fall off". He pilled out.