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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby shadysecret » Nov 25th, '10, 05:40

Slim's Shady wrote:Because you were blatantly hating on 2Pac.


I love Tupac :angry:
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 25th, '10, 05:41

shadysecret wrote:
Slim's Shady wrote:Because you were blatantly hating on 2Pac.


I love Tupac :angry:

I'm not talking about you...
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby Ice_Scarred » Nov 25th, '10, 05:42

Wow, some of the responses in this thread are absolutely terrifying. The level of miseducation, misunderstanding and lack of knowledge regarding Tupac is astonishing. Tupac wasn't a deep poetic dude but a cocky gangster? Tupac was extremely poetic in nature. When talking about Ride or Die type tracks, Tupac was painting a vivid image of how life in the hood can be. He puts you in the mindstate of the drug dealer running the corner or the Gangbanger running the block, because he felt they didn't have a voice.

Tupac did do some things that promoted the thug lifestyle and I can't fault him for it but I instead fault Suge Knight and Death Row for it. Tupac didn't get all hardbody, untouchable, gangsta-gangsta until Suge came into the picture and bailed homie out. I honestly believed Suge and his goons at the label brainwashed Pac to follow the routine. I believe Makaveli was his way of escaping the brainwashing going on within the industry, Suge, etc. etc.

Pac was a philosopher, a poet, a voice of the streets, a voice of empowerment and on top of that a human being. Humans are faulted and any negativity promoted by him can be excused because of that. Eminem is all of a sudden the apple-pie, faultless role model? Some of the content Em talked(s) about is twice as explicit as that of Pac's and much more grotesque and insane.

I look at both Pac and Em as artists....Poets of the Modern Age.

While I enjoy Em slightly more as an overall artist I have always stated that I believe Pac was the better of the two. But this is all opinion.
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby shadysecret » Nov 25th, '10, 05:43

Ice_Scarred wrote:Wow, some of the responses in this thread are absolutely terrifying. The level of miseducation, misunderstanding and lack of knowledge regarding Tupac is astonishing. Tupac wasn't a deep poetic dude but a cocky gangster? Tupac was extremely poetic in nature. When talking about Ride or Die type tracks, Tupac was painting a vivid image of how life in the hood can be. He puts you in the mindstate of the drug dealer running the corner or the Gangbanger running the block, because he felt they didn't have a voice.

Tupac did do some things that promoted the thug lifestyle and I can't fault him for it but I instead fault Suge Knight and Death Row for it. Tupac didn't get all hardbody, untouchable, gangsta-gangsta until Suge came into the picture and bailed homie out. I honestly believed Suge and his goons at the label brainwashed Pac to follow the routine. I believe Makaveli was his way of escaping the brainwashing going on within the industry, Suge, etc. etc.

Pac was a philosopher, a poet, a voice of the streets, a voice of empowerment and on top of that a human being. Humans are faulted and any negativity promoted by him can be excused because of that. Eminem is all of a sudden the apple-pie, faultless role model? Some of the content Em talked(s) about is twice as explicit as that of Pac's and much more grotesque and insane.

I look at both Pac and Em as artists....Poets of the Modern Age.

While I enjoy Em slightly more as an overall artist I have always stated that I believe Pac was the better of the two. But this is all opinion.


"I'm not trying to be the next Tupac."
"I think that honestly, Tupac was the greatest songwriter that ever lived. He made it seem so easy. The emotion was there, and feeling, and everything he was trying to describe. You saw a picture that he was trying to paint."-Eminem
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 25th, '10, 05:44

Ice_Scarred wrote:Wow, some of the responses in this thread are absolutely terrifying. The level of miseducation, misunderstanding and lack of knowledge regarding Tupac is astonishing. Tupac wasn't a deep poetic dude but a cocky gangster? Tupac was extremely poetic in nature. When talking about Ride or Die type tracks, Tupac was painting a vivid image of how life in the hood can be. He puts you in the mindstate of the drug dealer running the corner or the Gangbanger running the block, because he felt they didn't have a voice.

Tupac did do some things that promoted the thug lifestyle and I can't fault him for it but I instead fault Suge Knight and Death Row for it. Tupac didn't get all hardbody, untouchable, gangsta-gangsta until Suge came into the picture and bailed homie out. I honestly believed Suge and his goons at the label brainwashed Pac to follow the routine. I believe Makaveli was his way of escaping the brainwashing going on within the industry, Suge, etc. etc.

Pac was a philosopher, a poet, a voice of the streets, a voice of empowerment and on top of that a human being. Humans are faulted and any negativity promoted by him can be excused because of that. Eminem is all of a sudden the apple-pie, faultless role model? Some of the content Em talked(s) about is twice as explicit as that of Pac's and much more grotesque and insane.

I look at both Pac and Em as artists....Poets of the Modern Age.

While I enjoy Em slightly more as an overall artist I have always stated that I believe Pac was the better of the two. But this is all opinion.

This post is what I wish I could say in words :worship:

Nicely put :y:
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 25th, '10, 05:45

No matter how much people try to convince me that 2Pac was a poet, i just plain and simply don't like it. From the songs I've heard, i haven't seen a track as poetic as Em's best stuff. The voice turns me off the most.
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby shadysecret » Nov 25th, '10, 05:46

Slim's Shady wrote:
Ice_Scarred wrote:Wow, some of the responses in this thread are absolutely terrifying. The level of miseducation, misunderstanding and lack of knowledge regarding Tupac is astonishing. Tupac wasn't a deep poetic dude but a cocky gangster? Tupac was extremely poetic in nature. When talking about Ride or Die type tracks, Tupac was painting a vivid image of how life in the hood can be. He puts you in the mindstate of the drug dealer running the corner or the Gangbanger running the block, because he felt they didn't have a voice.

Tupac did do some things that promoted the thug lifestyle and I can't fault him for it but I instead fault Suge Knight and Death Row for it. Tupac didn't get all hardbody, untouchable, gangsta-gangsta until Suge came into the picture and bailed homie out. I honestly believed Suge and his goons at the label brainwashed Pac to follow the routine. I believe Makaveli was his way of escaping the brainwashing going on within the industry, Suge, etc. etc.

Pac was a philosopher, a poet, a voice of the streets, a voice of empowerment and on top of that a human being. Humans are faulted and any negativity promoted by him can be excused because of that. Eminem is all of a sudden the apple-pie, faultless role model? Some of the content Em talked(s) about is twice as explicit as that of Pac's and much more grotesque and insane.

I look at both Pac and Em as artists....Poets of the Modern Age.

While I enjoy Em slightly more as an overall artist I have always stated that I believe Pac was the better of the two. But this is all opinion.

This post is what I wish I could say in words :worship:

Nicely put :y:

:y: :y:

I actually read all of it, and completely agree.

POETS they are both modern day shakespeares and their music is amazing though words, through all the shit they went through. Tupac on the streets gang life, and Eminem finding himself as hated on as an artist
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby SatansAngel » Nov 25th, '10, 05:47

shadysecret wrote:
Ice_Scarred wrote:Wow, some of the responses in this thread are absolutely terrifying. The level of miseducation, misunderstanding and lack of knowledge regarding Tupac is astonishing. Tupac wasn't a deep poetic dude but a cocky gangster? Tupac was extremely poetic in nature. When talking about Ride or Die type tracks, Tupac was painting a vivid image of how life in the hood can be. He puts you in the mindstate of the drug dealer running the corner or the Gangbanger running the block, because he felt they didn't have a voice.

Tupac did do some things that promoted the thug lifestyle and I can't fault him for it but I instead fault Suge Knight and Death Row for it. Tupac didn't get all hardbody, untouchable, gangsta-gangsta until Suge came into the picture and bailed homie out. I honestly believed Suge and his goons at the label brainwashed Pac to follow the routine. I believe Makaveli was his way of escaping the brainwashing going on within the industry, Suge, etc. etc.

Pac was a philosopher, a poet, a voice of the streets, a voice of empowerment and on top of that a human being. Humans are faulted and any negativity promoted by him can be excused because of that. Eminem is all of a sudden the apple-pie, faultless role model? Some of the content Em talked(s) about is twice as explicit as that of Pac's and much more grotesque and insane.

I look at both Pac and Em as artists....Poets of the Modern Age.

While I enjoy Em slightly more as an overall artist I have always stated that I believe Pac was the better of the two. But this is all opinion.


"I'm not trying to be the next Tupac."
"I think that honestly, Tupac was the greatest songwriter that ever lived. He made it seem so easy. The emotion was there, and feeling, and everything he was trying to describe. You saw a picture that he was trying to paint."-Eminem


shadysecret, you've all already posted this....NOBODY in this thread has said anything about Eminem trying to be the next Tupac. And that's great that Eminem respects 2Pac. Not like he could ever say anything bad about him if he cherishes his career....
Let's move on....
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 25th, '10, 05:48

CoSh wrote:No matter how much people try to convince me that 2Pac was a poet, i just plain and simply don't like it. From the songs I've heard, i haven't seen a track as poetic as Em's best stuff. The voice turns me off the most.

again i must bring up....Dopefiend's Diner.

That's very poetic.
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 25th, '10, 05:49

Slim's Shady wrote:
CoSh wrote:No matter how much people try to convince me that 2Pac was a poet, i just plain and simply don't like it. From the songs I've heard, i haven't seen a track as poetic as Em's best stuff. The voice turns me off the most.

again i must bring up....Dopefiend's Diner.

That's very poetic.

yeah i like that song :y:
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby SatansAngel » Nov 25th, '10, 05:51

CoSh wrote:No matter how much people try to convince me that 2Pac was a poet, i just plain and simply don't like it. From the songs I've heard, i haven't seen a track as poetic as Em's best stuff. The voice turns me off the most.

Well, you don't like his voice. That's just your personal preference.
I can't hate on you for that just as much as respectful Eminem fans can't hate on people for not listening to Eminem because of how his voice sounds.

And if you haven't heard a track as poetic as Eminem's work then you obviously haven't listened to very much of 2Pac's material.

Look up "The Rose That Grew From Concrete" and then speak on how poetic you think Tupac is....
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 25th, '10, 05:51

SatansAngel wrote:
CoSh wrote:No matter how much people try to convince me that 2Pac was a poet, i just plain and simply don't like it. From the songs I've heard, i haven't seen a track as poetic as Em's best stuff. The voice turns me off the most.

Well, you don't like his voice. That's just your personal preference.
I can't hate on you for that just as much as respectful Eminem fans can't hate on people for not listening to Eminem because of how his voice sounds.

And if you haven't heard a track as poetic as Eminem's work then you obviously haven't listened to very much of 2Pac's material.

Look up "The Rose That Grew From Concrete" and then speak on how poetic you think Tupac is....

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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby OMEGA » Nov 25th, '10, 06:01

Tupac themes and concepts bore me to hell. Hood, Gangstas, Niqqas. Not my stuff.
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby SatansAngel » Nov 25th, '10, 06:05

Omega wrote:Tupac themes and concepts bore me to hell. Hood, Gangstas, Niqqas. Not my stuff.

YOUR personal preference....

If I said "Eminem's subject matter bores me to hell. Haillie, Kim, Mom. Not my stuff".

You can't hate on me for that, but you would think I have a really big misconception about Eminem's music because that's not all his music is about.

Same logic can be applied to Tupac, except it would be even more appropriate because Tupac touches on much broader issues than Eminem does.
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Re: Tupac Is Better Than Eminem

Postby shadysecret » Nov 25th, '10, 06:09

SatansAngel wrote:
Omega wrote:Tupac themes and concepts bore me to hell. Hood, Gangstas, Niqqas. Not my stuff.

YOUR personal preference....

If I said "Eminem's subject matter bores me to hell. Haillie, Kim, Mom. Not my stuff".

You can't hate on me for that, but you would think I have a really big misconception about Eminem's music because that's not all his music is about.

Same logic can be applied to Tupac, except it would be even more appropriate because Tupac touches on much broader issues than Eminem does.


true dat. Tupac is genuinely open for everything, change, his song topics lyrics were more broad

then eminem's close minded own life about his drunk mom, his daughter, his life

we get it. eminem had a sucky childhood so what?

Tupac was still man up of it and really faced the real life issues and rapped bout that.

Props to him.
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