Relapse Vs Recovery

by **Jimmy Conway** » Dec 18th, '12, 23:03

Most threads end up here. It seems to be pretty divided. There seems to be one large group that loves one and hates the other. And then there are the total stans that just eat up everything.

Part of me thinks it was record label strategy. Giving the people who love the more crazy side of Em with Relapse. Then giving the emotional, more mainstream feel of Recovery.

Relapse feels more complete to me. Em just sounds like he was really into it, there was an obvious direction(excluding crack a bottle). Recovery sounds forced. I will always believe that Em liked Relapse and wanted to do Relapse 2, but outside pressure caused him to change direction. Recovery has bad beats, forced flows and lyrics and little replay value. Recovery is one of the few albums these days I paid money for and I don't even listen to it. I still listen to Relapse. There was a lot of songs made in the Relapse era and with some adjustments to the album, adding some songs, removing some songs, to me, it's right up there with Eminem show.

I know some of you guys that have came here every day for the past five years will be aggravated seeing a topic that has been ran into the ground. But that's not my fault, I didn't trick you into coming into this thread.

Relapse.
01) Buffalo Bill
02) 3am
03) My Mom
04) Insane
05) Bagpipes From Baghdad
06) Hello
07) My Darling
08) Same Song & Dance
09) We Made You
10) Oh No
11) Careful What You Wish For
12) Stay Wide Awake
13) Old Time’s Sake
14) Must Be The Ganja
15) Elevator
16) Deja Vu
17) Beautiful
18) Music Box
19.Underground

Recovery

1. Cold Wind Blows
2. Talkin’ 2 Myself
3. On Fire
4. Won’t Back Down
5. Untitled
6. Going Through Changes
7. Not Afraid
8. Seduction
9. No Love
10. Space Bound
11. Cinderella Man
12. 25 to Life
13. So Bad
14. Almost Famous
15. Love the Way You Lie
16. You’re Never Over
17.Ridaz
18.Session One
19. Despicable

I made a few changes to make the albums as good as I thought they could be.

by **PAINKILLƎR** » Dec 18th, '12, 23:05

You didn't put "Oh No" Under Relapse... FAIL

I still pick Relapse doe.

by **cityfan31** » Dec 18th, '12, 23:50

As you put it, 'Slim Carey', I guess I'm a total Stan as I like both of them. They're both different sides of a coin, that's the beauty of them.

Don't buy the 'Em wasn't into Recovery argument' for a number of reasons:

1. Relapse proved that Em has complete control over his music, as the accents got immense criticism at the time and it was still released.

2. He said he took a different direction and tracks like On Fire, Forever, DTW all were moving in a different direction (i.e. no accents) and there's no reasons not to believe him.

3. 'Guess I ran them accents into the ground'. He did.

4. He does live shows and only performs 3AM from Relapse and only Forever from Refill (not a Relapse song). He could quite easily perform more as he knows lots of his fans like Relapse. He clearly prefers Recovery.

by **Copy Cat** » Dec 19th, '12, 00:08

Stay Wide Awake >

by **Blu** » Dec 19th, '12, 00:10

cityfan31 wrote:4. He does live shows and only performs 3AM from Relapse and only Forever from Refill (not a Relapse song). He could quite easily perform more as he knows lots of his fans like Relapse. He clearly prefers Recovery.

Most songs from Relapse require amazing breath control, Eminem would have to be standing in the same place if he wanted to perform a song like Stay Wide Awake. Unless, of course, Mr. Porter was there being his hype man.

But then again that would ruin the song.

by **PAINKILLƎR** » Dec 19th, '12, 00:44

bigray wrote:They both suck

You're an idiot.

by **UofLCard** » Dec 19th, '12, 00:45

Recovery, when all is said and done.

by **PAINKILLƎR** » Dec 19th, '12, 00:51

bigray wrote:
PAINKILLƎR wrote:
bigray wrote:They both suck

You're an idiot.

You are actually the idiot for believing me chump

You don't want it with me old man. Your execution in sarcasm sucks, and so does you taste in music which made this oh so believable.

by **SoldierShady** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:02

Relapse.
01) Buffalo Bill - Flow's banoodles. Easily in the top 5.
02) 3am - You already know
03) My Mom - Never cared for it from the start
04) Insane - Has gradually become meh for me over time. It's aiiight doe.
05) Bagpipes From Baghdad - Easily in the bottom 5. Ugh.
06) Hello - It's cool.
07) My Darling - Love it. Wish it made the actual hard copy album.
08) Same Song & Dance - Another meh song.
09) We Made You - ....
10) Oh No - Again, should've made the actual album
11) Careful What You Wish For - Easily top 5. So fucking underrated. It's the only song that captures that "Eminem sound" the best since his comeback.
12) Stay Wide Awake - Brilliance right durrr.
13) Old Time’s Sake - It's not even on my iTunes. :whistle:

14) Must Be The Ganja - Irritating save for that verse where he's describing murder weapons, the killer and shit.
15) Elevator - Still good.
16) Deja Vu - Best song on the album. Nuff said.
17) Beautiful - I like it, don't get why it gets so much hate aside from the fact that it sounds nothing like the rest of the album/doesn't gel whatsoever.
18) Music Box - Fucking badass song. :worship:

That third verse.
19.Underground - The badassery is totes ridic with this one. Gets unnecessary hate. :angry:

Recovery

1. Cold Wind Blows - Song exhausts my auditory system around the 3rd verse.
2. Talkin’ 2 Myself - Easy top 5. I love it.
3. On Fire - I've mentioned before that this is the best song on the album.
4. Won’t Back Down - Was cool at first. Now it's unlistenable.
5. Untitled - Yeah....don't really care too much about this one.
6. Going Through Changes - Good, but a tad overrated.
7. Not Afraid - I'll say this. It's not bad. It's not good. Works I suppose for the purpose of being a single.
8. Seduction - One of the better tracks on the album.
9. No Love - I play it maybe once or twice every 2 months now.
10. Space Bound - Got bored of it quick. Not on my iTunes anymore.
11. Cinderella Man - Worst song on the album. That beat just does my head in, I don't care how many multis he had. And that hook. Ugh.
12. 25 to Life - I don't listen to it as much as of late. It's ok I guess.
13. So Bad - I still love it. Gets unnecessary hate as well.
14. Almost Famous - Slightly overrated but it's in the top 5.
15. Love the Way You Lie - It's good. Nothing bad really to say about it.
16. You’re Never Over - Unlistenable now.
17.Ridaz - Don't care for this at all.
18.Session One - Mehhhhh.
19. Despicable - I like the first half more. i still listen to it regularly.

Relapse, biatchzz :coffee:

by **LIL_B** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:06

bigray wrote:They both suck

fucking agree

by **King Lance** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:07

oh another relapse vs recovery thread !
Oh, this time relapse has more votes :coffee:

by **Trimss** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:08

LIL M wrote:
bigray wrote:They both suck

fucking agree

LIL M wrote:SSLP - 5/5
MMLP - 5/5
TES - 5/5
Encore - 1/5
Relapse - 4.9/5
Recovery - 3/5

i love you homo

by **LIL_B** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:16

Trimss wrote:
LIL M wrote:
bigray wrote:They both suck

fucking agree

LIL M wrote:SSLP - 5/5
MMLP - 5/5
TES - 5/5
Encore - 1/5
Relapse - 4.9/5
Recovery - 3/5

i love you homo

people changed their minds.lol
cant believe you skim through my shit fucking french people

i was on hi drugs at dat time

by **Trimss** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:17

that was just some months ago, but i just wanted to fuck with you tbh. <3

by **LIL_B** » Dec 19th, '12, 01:18

Trimss wrote:that was just some months ago, but i just wanted to fuck with you tbh. <3

our relationship is done