Why all the hate on Seduction & You're Never Over?

[chrismoz]

First of all, I think Seduction is one of the stronger tracks on the album. The beat is simple and good. Maybe it's just the way I interpret this track which is why I like it so much. But I feel like in saying "verbal seduction" Eminem is addressing people like us who listen to his music. In other words, he's verbally seducing us. And I feel like his target would be other rappers that stole his listeners while he was gone. Although you may think this track is about a girl I urge you to reconsider if you skip this track while listening or think it isn't good. It's just like 25 to Life. Eminem compares something to a relationship and uses 'she' to do so.

"Theres a 7 disc CD changer in the car and I'm in every single slot and you're not" - Who is he talking to? Other rapper, your CD's aren't in my listeners CD deck.

"I'm not about to sit back and keep rhyming just one syllable" - It sounds like he's addressing another rapper(s). I have a unique style that I've mastered and no one can mimic it. There are also a few other lines where it sounds like he may be taking to another rapper.

"She's on my dick cause I spit better then you" - I am better then you at writing rhymes and more people listen to my shit than yours.

"One minute she loves you the next she don't" - The listener used to listen to you're CD's but my shit is better then yours, I stole your listener/fan"

"Put your ear up the speaker dear while I freak this, world premier seducin' her, loosin up with a little freestyle, that'll wait am i losin ya, am I makin ya look bad well I got news for her homie you're losin her" - Keep your ears close to the radio while I do my thing, come back releasing Not Afraid, quite possibly my most catchy song that every one knows and is up there with Lose Yourself and Real Slim Shady. I'm taking your listeners and exciting everyone for Recovery with Despicable, a sick ass freestyle where I spit it fast as fuck to show the world that the real Slim Shady is back. I just smashed the Drake 'Over' beat and made Drake look bad, came back and took over. I almost feel like he could be talking to Drake here with these lyrics from the song. But that is just my interpretation of the lyrics. Your's could be different.

This song is ill. I don't understand all the hate. Next time you listen to it think about this concept I'm proposing and maybe you will change your mind. Listen for the lyrics where he could possibly be addressing another rapper. Every time he says 'she', replace it with another rapper. Song is dope. Really dont understand all the hate AT ALL.

Same thing goes for You're Never over. Aside from all the crappy singing Marshall rides this beat with perfection in the tribute to his best friend. What more could you ask for? So what if there is like 30 seconds of crappy singing. He destroys this beat with ill lyrics. I've been viewing this forum for 6 years and just recently started posting and I think some of you people aren't hearing things correctly and miss a lot of messages in lyrics. Smoke some damn weed and ponder what he's saying and maybe these songs will stand out to you more so then tracks like 'On Fire' and 'WTP' which to me are nothing more than filler tracks.

[Norway kills]

I don't get all the hate on Won't Back Down, but that's just me

[DanWS]

I've heard very little hate for Seduction and pretty much no hate for You're Never Over

[chrismoz]

I could say the opposite. I feel like more posts I read the more people seem not to think these are two of the better tracks on Recovery.

[RadicalMGuy]

I'll tell you why I hate these two tracks.

Seduction bores me, to the point where I once fell asleep listening. The beat is boring, his delivery is boring, so slow and disappointing that I don't even pick up what hes saying, which totally defeats the purpose of those metaphors.

You're Never Over suffers from what I like to call "Late-album, non-single disorder" for me personally. This means that because I listen to albums front to back, and it isn't a single, that I don't get to it very often, and whenever I do (16 plays), the singing puts me off it, and I'm disappointed that this is the best he could do for his deceased best friend. I like Track 17 more than YNO, cuz honestly its better.

[Kez]

ok hold on while we change our opinion

[OMEGA]

Huh? Hate? There have been threads about these songs and pretty much everyone likes them.

[pfati]

i love seduction and i know alot of other ppl that do too...... but i dont like your never over too much but i dont think em made that song for us so it dont rly mater i guess..... chorus sucks he doesnt stay on the beat to well a little TOOO much word play..... i mean like " i spread my WANGS and i flew" lol that just bothers me it doesnt rly rhyme with " i was on my WAY to see you" but he forces it... doesnt sound natural just sounds like he's forcing it too much... hehe forcing it too much

[MackBook]

I've heard very little hate for Seduction and pretty much no hate for You're Never Over

No hate for you're never over? What site have you been on?

[Emadyville]

I love both tracks so I feel ya

[HairJordan23]

Anyone that hate Seduction, hates themselves.


Now

Cold Wind Blows
Wont Back Down
WTP
So Bad


All garbage.

Love the way u lie sux too

[Shady50]

Anyone that hate Seduction, hates themselves.


Now

Cold Wind Blows
Wont Back Down
WTP
So Bad


All garbage.

Love the way u lie sux too

How is Cold Wind Blows garbage? That's a fuckin' hot track IMO. The beat and lyrics are crazy. Not to mention the chorus is catchy as hell.

[RadicalMGuy]

Anyone that hate Seduction, hates themselves.


Now

Cold Wind Blows
Wont Back Down
WTP
So Bad


All garbage.

Love the way u lie sux too

I disagree with all of those except WBD. Those are all EXCELLENT songs, especially So Bad.

[Emadyville]

Anyone that hate Seduction, hates themselves.


Now

Cold Wind Blows
Wont Back Down
WTP
So Bad


All garbage.

Love the way u lie sux too

anyone listening to you is an idiot

[HereHere]

YNO makes me cry through my eyes, whilst Seduction makes me cry through my penis.