Question about recommending Eminem's music to someone

[Rafael]

Lmao @ Snake's edit.

[csw621]

he took it back quicker than I could quote :[ yelawolf tries really hard guys

[Snakebeast]

Lmao @ Snake's edit.

Still stand by it. Thought it was unecessary though. Love Yelawolf, but if Relapse is trash, I am willing to take a shit on TM 0-60

[csw621]

relapse isn't trash. none of his projects are, he's alongside the best on his worst day

[Rafael]

I was joking at them being trash.
They're not trash lol (apart from Encore who some extrememly shitty tracks), but those three do not feel like Eminem albums at all.
But in all honesty, do you truly believe Recovery is a good album?

It displays an attempt at a man compromising his artisty in order to try to satisfy a younger and more pop-culture oriented crowd. Working with hyped producers and having pop hooks in order to try to appeal is probably one of the most un-eminem decisions he ever made. He was just trying to play it safe after Relapse's reception, why would I want to recommend an album like that?

Relapse on the other hand, while I do praise its creativity, uniqueness and cohesiveness, isn't core Eminem. It takes a true Em fan to appreciate what he did on Relapse, so recommending Em's weird fantasy to a casual rap listener wouldn't be a wise decision since he might find it unappreciative to the taste. It might not be their cup of tea just yet, I would recommend albums with the core Eminem sound before I recommed the deeper cuts.

[Snakebeast]

I was joking at them being trash.
They're no trash lol (apart from Encore who some extrememly shitty tracks), but those three do not feel like Eminem albums at all.
But in all honesty, do you truly believe Recovery is a good album?

It displays an attempt at a man compromising his artisty in order to try to satisfy a younger and more pop-culture oriented crowd. Working with hyped producers and having pop hooks in order to try to appeal is probably one of the most un-eminem decisions he ever made. He was just trying to play it safe after Relapse's reception, why would I want to recommend an album like that?

Relapse on the other hand, while I do praise its creativity, uniqueness and cohesiveness, isn't core Eminem. It takes a true Em fan to appreciate what he did on Relapse, so recommending Em's weird fantasy to a casual rap listen might seem a little unappreciative to the taste. It might not be their cup of tea just yet, I would recommend albums with the core Eminem sound before I recommed the deeper cuts.

Good response. I definitely agree with not listening to Relapse first, but it is something you definitely need to listen to if you're trying to get into Em. Especially tracks like Deja Vu.

I'd give Recovery a 5.5 out of 10. Em has always had some kind of pop-oriented stuff on each of his albums. His lead single shows this. He did compromise more on Recovery than on any other album, but the core Eminem feel is still there. No album with the opening lines "YOU CAN GET THE DICK, JUST CALL ME THE BALLSACK, I'M NUTS" or a track like On Fire is on a completely pop album. Yes, I would definitely recommend an album like that because it showcases an important part of Em's career; his getting back on his feet after his drug addiction and Proof's death.

It's not a good or great album, but it is certainly necessary to listen to if you want to get into Eminem.

[csw621]

encore, relapse and recovery weren't written the way sslp, mmlp, tes and mmlp2 were

[shadyblogger]

I'd just put on MMLP and see how they respond

[Rafael]

I was joking at them being trash.
They're no trash lol (apart from Encore who some extrememly shitty tracks), but those three do not feel like Eminem albums at all.
But in all honesty, do you truly believe Recovery is a good album?

It displays an attempt at a man compromising his artisty in order to try to satisfy a younger and more pop-culture oriented crowd. Working with hyped producers and having pop hooks in order to try to appeal is probably one of the most un-eminem decisions he ever made. He was just trying to play it safe after Relapse's reception, why would I want to recommend an album like that?

Relapse on the other hand, while I do praise its creativity, uniqueness and cohesiveness, isn't core Eminem. It takes a true Em fan to appreciate what he did on Relapse, so recommending Em's weird fantasy to a casual rap listen might seem a little unappreciative to the taste. It might not be their cup of tea just yet, I would recommend albums with the core Eminem sound before I recommed the deeper cuts.

Good response. I definitely agree with not listening to Relapse first, but it is something you definitely need to listen to if you're trying to get into Em. Especially tracks like Deja Vu.

I'd give Recovery a 5.5 out of 10. Em has always had some kind of pop-oriented stuff on each of his albums. His lead single shows this. He did compromise more on Recovery than on any other album, but the core Eminem feel is still there. No album with the opening lines "YOU CAN GET THE DICK, JUST CALL ME THE BALLSACK, I'M NUTS" or a track like On Fire is on a completely pop album. Yes, I would definitely recommend an album like that because it showcases an important part of Em's career; his getting back on his feet after his drug addiction and Proof's death.

It's not a good or great album, but it is certainly necessary to listen to if you want to get into Eminem.

Don't get me wrong, some of the tracks on all three of those albums are 10/10 and I would definetly recommend those.

But still, I would attempt to show them Eminem at his best, which would obviously be his first three albums and probably MMLP2.

I respect that Eminem did not entirely compromise on Encore, but some songs on there are really really fucking bad. I wouldn't recommend an album like that to someone is trying to get into just get into Eminem. I would say the same thing about Recovery. While it has some songs and compositions vital to Em's progession as an artist, they also have some compromising material that I would recommend on a first skim through of the artist.

Relapse is another monster in its own right. It takes proabably years of listening to an artist to be able to truly appreciate what he/she does on some projects. I think Relapse is one of those albums, therefore I would recommed it off the bat.

Since you mentioned Yelawolf earlier, I'll use him as an example.

Arena Rap is in my opinion one of the most unique projects in the history of hip hop music, his best one so far maybe, but since it is so other-worldy, would I recommend it on a first swing of the artist? Especially if I'm trying to just get him into?

No, I wouldn't.

They might find the album weird, since they don't have a clear view of who Yelawolf really is yet.

Same goes with Relapse imo. But at the same time I would show them some of the best songs from the album.

It's fucking stupid to leave anything out if you want to help someone become a fan of an artist. The person has to see everything that that artist has done, not just what you think are the highs, and decide for themselves what they think about it. Once they've listened to everything they can decide if they're a fan or not.

So in order to get someone into something, you show them their entire discography?

No lol, you would start them off slowly. With some vital songs and albums.

You don't have to listen to everything in order to be a fan or not, I completely despise some things that Em has put out and I still consider myself a fan.

Drowning someone in an artist's discography in order to get them into that artist is pressuring and pointless. Especially if you're only serving an introduction to that artist.

[shadyblogger]

i'd go TES, SSLP, MMLP, MMLP2, then the other stuff

i think TES is the most accessible album for a newbie, if there's still someone out there who hasn't heard Eminem

rt

[gutawafang]

I'll let them listen Lose Yourself, followed by The Eminem Show, followed by MMLP. That sequence made me wanna listen to his whole discography.

[Josh]

hot girl - FACK,Shake that
my good friends who listens only to guys like David Guetta etc - complete TES and Recovery maybe MMLP2
the others are to hard for them
my hip hop buddies - they already know everything ,but if I had i would say SSLP MMLP, MMLP2 and Relapse

[shadyblogger]

I'll let them listen Lose Yourself, followed by The Eminem Show, followed by MMLP. That sequence made me wanna listen to his whole discography.

[Shpongle]

Well i started with MMLP then into his older stuff..

[Mr Evil]

I started with Curtain Call and then bought Encore a few months later. I would advise against this