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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby Notalius » Jan 25th, '14, 17:43

bigray wrote:Macklemore is by far more of a rapper than someone like rick Ross, future, or any if these people who make retarded music.
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby therapist » Jan 25th, '14, 17:53

Notalius wrote:
bigray wrote:Macklemore is by far more of a rapper than someone like rick Ross, future, or any if these people who make retarded music.


Yeah. I think Macklemore knows his sophomore album has to be something big, something to catch "real hip-hop"'s ear. He's fully capable of it, judging my his 2005 shit. I just can't wait to see what they do...
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby Shuttle Destroyer » Jan 25th, '14, 18:48

bigray wrote:Macklemore is by far more of a rapper than someone like rick Ross, future, or any if these people who make retarded music.

I can't stand future, man
I really can't understand how an autotuned retard with no substance at all got a deal
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby TranSlucEnt » Jan 26th, '14, 04:04

Not really a fan of Macklemore. Nor did I think The Heist was the best fucking thing ever to hit the game that year. But this shit is beyond retarted. :facepalm2 :facepalm
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby HeySamantha » Jan 26th, '14, 04:11

I see Mackemore being as much of a rapper, as I see Taylor Swift being a country artist :whistle:
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby Shuttle Destroyer » Jan 26th, '14, 04:51

StayWideAwake wrote:I have a theory that could sort of turn this into a (somewhat) positive.

What if they intended on giving Mack AOTY, but still felt GKMC desreved "best hip hop". If that's the case, they weren't "protecting the category" because they thought negatively of him, but rather that they loved his album and just didn't want to rob Kendrick of the best seriously hip hop oriented album.

Everyone assumed this was hating on Macklemore. But what if their thinking was identical to his own. Kendrick undeniably had the best "hip hop album". By removing Macklemore from the hip hop category, they could give him AOTY in a justifiable way without the nonsensical nature of the AOTY not even winning it's own genre. Make sense?

Or maybe not.

I got you
But why would the AOTY, which is a rap album, not be the RAOTY?
It would be like NWTS getting RAOTY and GKMC being the AOTY
Of course, in this case you can't use the same arguments you used, since they wouldn't be protecting the rap category by giving it to a that's 'more rap' but worst (in their view) to the AOTY
But the logic about it being weird the same
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby stylzjaw » Jan 26th, '14, 04:58

Shuttle Destroyer wrote:
StayWideAwake wrote:I have a theory that could sort of turn this into a (somewhat) positive.

What if they intended on giving Mack AOTY, but still felt GKMC desreved "best hip hop". If that's the case, they weren't "protecting the category" because they thought negatively of him, but rather that they loved his album and just didn't want to rob Kendrick of the best seriously hip hop oriented album.

Everyone assumed this was hating on Macklemore. But what if their thinking was identical to his own. Kendrick undeniably had the best "hip hop album". By removing Macklemore from the hip hop category, they could give him AOTY in a justifiable way without the nonsensical nature of the AOTY not even winning it's own genre. Make sense?

Or maybe not.

I got you
But why would the AOTY, which is a rap album, not be the RAOTY?
It would be like NWTS getting RAOTY and GKMC being the AOTY
Of course, in this case you can't use the same arguments you used, since they wouldn't be protecting the rap category by giving it to a that's 'more rap' but worst (in their view) to the AOTY
But the logic about it being weird the same


the voters for RAOTY & AOTY are different and a few rappers are in the rap commiittee this year.

The hip hop community seems to be fully behind Kendrick for RAOTY but his album is just too "hip hop" for the AOTY category. Many magazines/critics/fans say Kendrick deserves AOTY but will probably not win it because the album doesn't have the crossover, it only appeals to the rap audience.
2 "hip hop" artists have already won AOTY but it was because of the crossover: Lauryn Hill & Outkast with a non hip hop album (The Love Below)

http://www.billboard.com/articles/event ... 014-awards
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/172103 ... year.jhtml

also, Babel won AOTY last year but lost in its own genre category because the support of the community wasn't there.
Arcade Fire won AOTY in 2011 and lost in their own genre category.
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby Shuttle Destroyer » Jan 26th, '14, 18:35

stylzjaw wrote:The hip hop community seems to be fully behind Kendrick for RAOTY but his album is just too "hip hop" for the AOTY category. Many magazines/critics/fans say Kendrick deserves AOTY but will probably not win it because the album doesn't have the crossover, it only appeals to the rap audience.
2 "hip hop" artists have already won AOTY but it was because of the crossover: Lauryn Hill & Outkast with a non hip hop album (The Love Below)

http://www.billboard.com/articles/event ... 014-awards
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/172103 ... year.jhtml

also, Babel won AOTY last year but lost in its own genre category because the support of the community wasn't there.
Arcade Fire won AOTY in 2011 and lost in their own genre category
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Wow, didn't know that
That's ilogical if you think about it though lol
But I see why it may happen now, thanks :y:
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Re: The Grammys Committee Didn’t Want Macklemore in Their ra

Postby King Lance » Jan 26th, '14, 18:40

Charlotte Mathers wrote:What happened now though with the nominations? Is Mack out the RAOTY category? :S
btw they're gonna release the rap winners at 4m est right?



I've read somewhere that it will be televised because there are too many "stars" in the rap category... this year is very different than the previous years, theres no 2chainz, the roots or b.o.b... the least selling album of that category is from one of the biggest stars (Kanye West).

Drake - platinum
Kendrick - platinum
macklemore - platinum
jay-z - platinum
Kanye - platinum (only sold +600 k though)
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