Hesky wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again; if you put Tech's best tracks that have been released from 09-present onto one disc you'd have a classic album. Strange Music have it all wrong in regards to making quality music (due to churning out projects yearly, combined with a heavy touring schedule) but they have it right in regards to making money (more projects being released equals more money). The hardcore SM fan base are so blindly loyal, they'll buy anything with the snake and bat on it.
I would agree, but you do kinda get that with any artists loyal fan bases. Look at how Encore and Re-Up sold, when they're pretty much trash (especially Re-Up), just because it was associated with Eminem. Tech has a lot of music I like from recent albums, including Something Else, but it's got so much sub-par/filler music included that listening to it as a complete project is really difficult.
In other words, I completely agree with you.
Menzo wrote:I actually enjoyed Something Else more than A6's&7's, felt like less filler. On top of that, I really like the element concept and just wish it was structured a bit better but according to brother Nollie, having Tech cut down the original amount may have contributed to that.
Agreed.
Elision wrote:of course. i think something else and therapy could've been a lot stronger had he not rushed them so hard, he needs to tell travis to chill on those hardcore deadlines he sets for all of the strange artists. every year each member's pumping out 2 - 5 projects. whereas 6's & 7's is one of my all time favorite albums, and he put a little over a year of writing into it.
I'm not huge on a lot of what's on 6's & 7's, but that's more personal taste (not music quality), so I understand your point regarding that. I actually liked a lot of Therapy, maybe not for the content, but the rock influence in the sound was really cool. I feel like, if he'd have taken the time devoted to making those two as separate projects, and focused it into one project, it would have been a lot stronger.
Elision wrote:as for there being filler tracks, it's really hard to tell with tech. because he always seems genuinely pleased with the final product of all his albums, he even often calls something else his favorite piece since everready. I think what's happening is he tries to sprinkle a little bit of everything into his albums, to appeal to all hiphop fans, and because of that a lot of it gets labeled as filler. because i mean he'll drop a super complex piece such as so dope with like 7 different flows in one verse and then turn around and write dwamn, so it seems to me like he's just trying to have something there for everyone to enjoy - i think you'd be hard pressed to find a fan of both those songs. of course this is just my opinion, which i typically try to keep separate from these types of discussions but there you go.
I think that your opinion is probably fairly accurate, which unfortunately is something that I don't like. It feels like a lot of rappers sacrifice their sound to try and have music that appeals to everyone. Hell, even Eminem has fallen victim to that since his comeback. It probably doesn't bug some people, but it really isn't something I'm a fan of.
Elision wrote:edit: which isn't to say there isn't filler tracks here and there, I just don't think the majority of the stuff we would call filler is filler to tech. he seems to genuinely enjoy it all. especially something else given he originally had 31 tracks for it but had to narrow it down to what we got. hence why the fire/water/earth thing didn't really work out as well as it was supposed to. not sure why he couldn't just do two discs though.
I actually didn't know this. A double album probably could have worked better for it then, as you said. Interesting.
it's not win or lose dude it's a discussion. i'm just trying to talk to you guys. but sometimes it's like beating your head against a brick wall of ignorance.
