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Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Artemis » Dec 18th, '10, 19:26

This is not a discussion about who the best rapper alive is. This is a discussion about why the term "Best Rapper Alive" is so widely used. For starters, rap is relatively young. This isn't rock where we had people banging out tracks in the 70's. Big Pun, Biggie, Pac, Guru, & Big L are the only dead rappers who have a shot at being named the best.

So why the hell do we say best rapper alive when it only excludes like 5 rappers. You could say it's out of respect for the dead but the way I see it, it's just postmortem dick riding.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby dead prez » Dec 18th, '10, 22:07

Big L has no shot at the best even out of dead rappers, Eazy E (Yeah I know he had ghostwriters) and ODB deserve more of a shot than him. Honestly Big L is one of the most fellated dead rappers, yes Biggie and Pac are fellated more than him but they deserve more of a shot (no pun intended) to be in the top 10 list than Big L.

And they say it not to make themselves look like a conceited asshole, Pac and Big died in their primes and were releasing great material, and while it is baseless conjecture whether or not they would have stayed on top of fallen off, Pac was getting better near his death and even Biggie can be made a case for.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Artemis » Dec 18th, '10, 22:13

The second you placed Eazy E and ODB above Big L I immediately stopped reading. You obviously are on some potent drugs at this very moment. Big L's multi syllabic rhymes, humor, and praise worthy punchlines vs Eazy's....AIDs and ODB's....singing?
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby dead prez » Dec 18th, '10, 22:32

Eazy E if you include him with the NWA group collectively than yes, he's a better storyteller and yeah I already acknoweldged he had a ghostwriter. As for ODB the dude's catalagoue is definitely better than Big L's and his craziness spiced up tracks. And lol Pun died of being a fatass do you really want to go there.

As far Big L's skills he was a one dimensional punchline rapper that's it, he couldn't make a decent song without having a punchline every five seconds. His multis were average nothing special, I will give him that he dude have some humor though. But he doesn't deserve to be put on the same pedestal as Pac and Big.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Artemis » Dec 18th, '10, 22:45

Big Pun's worst verse ever was 30x better than anything ODB or Eazy E ever wrote. Big L was original for his day. He did the funny punchline thing...before there was a funny punchline thing.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby TheKanza » Dec 18th, '10, 22:47

50 Cent & Soulja boy :unsure: :)
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby mcZu » Dec 18th, '10, 22:55

You know he had ghostwriters and yet you praise him for someone elses writing skils? Honestly, I don't know why you would even give someone credit when he doesn't write his own stuff. I know you dislike Big L, but this is just on another level. A rapper isn't a rapper when he doesn't write his own lyrics, this isn't singing where you can show how good your voice sounds, rap is all about the lyrics, even the flow you use is determined by your writing... When you rap someone elses lyrics you're nothing more than a joke.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby dead prez » Dec 18th, '10, 23:11

mcZu wrote:You know he had ghostwriters and yet you praise him for someone elses writing skils? Honestly, I don't know why you would even give someone credit when he doesn't write his own stuff. I know you dislike Big L, but this is just on another level. A rapper isn't a rapper when he doesn't write his own lyrics, this isn't singing where you can show how good your voice sounds, rap is all about the lyrics, even the flow you use is determined by your writing... When you rap someone elses lyrics you're nothing more than a joke.


Perhaps I jumped the gun with eazy E so I will concede to him on that point, but I do believe that he's the epitome of "death hype", it wasn't until he died that he garnered such a huge rep among hip hop heads and eclipsed other living legends in the DITC (Lord Finesse, OC, Diamond D). When he was living he was barely anymore recognizable than any other DITC member, and it wasn't until he passed that LOPD was considered a "classic" in people's eyes.

Pac and BIG while fellated had tons of hype while they' were alive, so did Pun and Guru just died recently so that point is moot.

As far as his skills as a rapper that's another topic I'd really rather not get into now.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby dead prez » Dec 18th, '10, 23:14

Hesky wrote:Half of Big L is better than Eazy E & ODB combined.

No and do you even know the amount of recycled verses that guy has, hell he was even getting outshined by Camron in a few songs.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Cube23 » Dec 19th, '10, 01:14

I just say Nas is the best rapper ever. Not alive.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby EM1973 » Dec 19th, '10, 21:39

This is bullshit.
Imo is only best rapper ever debate.
I mean it's like someone say in basketball the best player alive (discussion) because Wilt Chamberlain a GOAT candidate is dead..
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Raids-God » Dec 19th, '10, 21:54

Joe Budden is the Best Rapper Alive
Forget track records or his Pump it Up days ...
I Mean if you look at his Rapping,Lyrics,Flow and Punchlines next to 2pac and B.I.G ...
Even the Pac stans can see Buddens the Winner ... On all round album replay-ability and Beats B.I.G,2Pac,Nas,Jay-Z Whould win, But in Pure Raping ... Joey all the way :y:
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby EM1973 » Dec 19th, '10, 22:07

Raids-God wrote:Joe Budden is the Best Rapper Alive
Forget track records or his Pump it Up days ...
I Mean if you look at his Rapping,Lyrics,Flow and Punchlines next to 2pac and B.I.G ...
Even the Pac stans can see Buddens the Winner ... On all round album replay-ability and Beats B.I.G,2Pac,Nas,Jay-Z Whould win, But in Pure Raping ... Joey all the way :y:

How the hell you can say this?
If you speak about Pure Raping the answer is one..Rakim...
Rakim is the purest rapper ever..He hasn't the whole package like Eminem who is the GOAT...
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Artemis » Dec 19th, '10, 22:10

Rakim is one dimensional. I give him props for multies and being a founder but no, he is not versatile enough to be the best. He raps about...rapping.
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Re: Best Rapper Alive!

Postby Raids-God » Dec 19th, '10, 22:12

EM1973 wrote:
Raids-God wrote:Joe Budden is the Best Rapper Alive
Forget track records or his Pump it Up days ...
I Mean if you look at his Rapping,Lyrics,Flow and Punchlines next to 2pac and B.I.G ...
Even the Pac stans can see Buddens the Winner ... On all round album replay-ability and Beats B.I.G,2Pac,Nas,Jay-Z Whould win, But in Pure Raping ... Joey all the way :y:

How the hell you can say this?
If you speak about Pure Raping the answer is one..Rakim...
Rakim is the purest rapper ever..He hasn't the whole package like Eminem who is the GOAT...


Lol .... Joe Budden is better than Rakim at Pure Raping
(I Leave my opinion of Eminem regardless ... out of the Hip-hop section)
Post Rakims best "Lyrical Best pure Rap track" and ill find 5 Joey songs better :y:
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