Relapse is Epic

[KillahBee]

Hip hop album of the year for me is either Raekwon - Cuban Linx pt.2 or Clipse - Till the Casket drops
Hopefully this year will be better

[professor]

Hip hop album of the year for me is either Raekwon - Cuban Linx pt.2 or Clipse - Till the Casket drops
Hopefully this year will be better

yea ur right about 'Cuban Linx pt 2' awesome album. still gotta go wit relapse as hip-hop album of the year. Relapse is almost like a story to my ears, just like kid cudis 'man on the moon'

[EminemBase]

Hip hop album of the year for me is either Raekwon - Cuban Linx pt.2 or Clipse - Till the Casket drops
Hopefully this year will be better

Well I think 2010 will be better.

We have new albums from...
Em (Relapse 2, obviously)
D12
Xzibit
Dre... Maybe (Detox, obv)
Kid Cudi (Cudder)

Also, Andre 3000 is working on a solo album... Could come out in 2010. And aside from the collab album... We may get something new solo from Nas. Probably Royce too.

And now that it's looking likely Royce will sign to Shady... We could see magic happen.

[KillahBee]

Hip hop album of the year for me is either Raekwon - Cuban Linx pt.2 or Clipse - Till the Casket drops
Hopefully this year will be better

yea ur right about 'Cuban Linx pt 2' awesome album. still gotta go wit relapse as hip-hop album of the year. Relapse is almost like a story to my ears, just like kid cudis 'man on the moon'

Relapse was my album of the year until I heard Cuban Linx, I still have to check out Cudi's album heard a couple of tracks and liked them, the production sounded really nice

[EminemBase]

Hip hop album of the year for me is either Raekwon - Cuban Linx pt.2 or Clipse - Till the Casket drops
Hopefully this year will be better

yea ur right about 'Cuban Linx pt 2' awesome album. still gotta go wit relapse as hip-hop album of the year. Relapse is almost like a story to my ears, just like kid cudis 'man on the moon'

Relapse was my album of the year until I heard Cuban Linx, I still have to check out Cudi's album heard a couple of tracks and liked them, the production sounded really nice

Cudi's album is fantastic.

Weirdly, that's the first album that I actually... Overrated in my mind on first listen lol. Probably because he was new to me but I remember listening to it and thinking "fuck this guy is good".

Also just because it was so different. But now I've outplayed it and I look back, I still think it's a brilliant album, just not as brilliant as I once thought.

It definitely deserves some serious recognition though and Cudi's got my attention for the future. And yeah, the production is beautiful. Some of the most original and compelling in recent memory.

[KillahBee]

Hip hop album of the year for me is either Raekwon - Cuban Linx pt.2 or Clipse - Till the Casket drops
Hopefully this year will be better

Well I think 2010 will be better.

We have new albums from...
Em (Relapse 2, obviously)
D12
Xzibit
Dre... Maybe (Detox, obv)
Kid Cudi (Cudder)

Also, Andre 3000 is working on a solo album... Could come out in 2010. And aside from the collab album... We may get something new solo from Nas. Probably Royce too.

And now that it's looking likely Royce will sign to Shady... We could see magic happen.

And then we also have:
Common
A Meth Ghost & Rae album
Madvillainy pt.2
Big Boi
Redman

Looks like this could be a good year

[dR3]

Of course it will be a good year: Nas, T.I., Dre, Em, Redman... What more can u ask for

[Relapse.LP]

Of course it will be a good year: Nas, T.I., Dre, Em, Redman... What more can u ask for

Lots.

[professor]

we also ave drake and T.I.

[dR3]

Of course it will be a good year: Nas, T.I., Dre, Em, Redman... What more can u ask for

Lots.

What lots?

[EminemBase]

Everybody hears music different so not everyone will appreciate Em’s skill in song, it may and turn them off. It was Jay’s year, I bump every song on Blueprint 3 it was a classic. Relapse fell short of that even by your own admittance. Jay Z had 40 year old white men playing his record and liking it, they didn’t do that with Relapse. All around Jay had a better record. Skill wise Em got him, but we are supposed to listen to music for the music, not how many time a rapper rhymes in a line, that’s just extra for us Hip- Hop heads.

Blueprint 3 was a classic to you. To me it was a face-value, ridiculously feature-heavy, empty album that stunk of desperation. Made just to make Jay more famous. It's not even close to a classic.

Yeah I did say Relapse fell short. But nowhere near as short as BP3 lmao. Compared to BP3, it's mind-blowing. I cannot believe anybody into hip-hop can say BP3 is a better record.

And please don't say 'us hip-hop heads' as if I'm not one just because I don't like Jay lmao. That's all I listen to is hip-hop. Jay has and always will be overrated. He bites Biggie rhymes, Kanye's dress-sense, doesn't innovate much, has kept the same flow / style and just brags. He's not on Em's level.

Also, you're not getting what I'm saying. Like I said, the content can be ANYTHING. All that matters to be is how good it's done. So the problem with BP3 is not that it's just bragging but that the bragging was done BADLY. It was done in a brainless manner. Any good rapper could of made that album.

Here in America Jay Z is Hip Hop royalty. Jay and Em are different rappers, but you can’t sum Jay up as just being a brag rapper. You just can’t. Em even said he idolized and looked up to Jay. Jay Z is one of the greatest rappers of all time. So many rappers have his DNA in them and you can’t say that about Em. Even Em was biting his pattern in The Slim Shady EP. His words aren’t like Eminem’s but they shouldn’t be, that third verse on “Thank You” is brilliant. Jays word play is nuts and he does it all without paper!

Yeah I'm aware Jay is hip-hop royalty, you really don't have to inform me. Doesn't matter what country you're in, you just need to be into hip-hop to know that. I don't care how good everybody else says somebody is, I think he's ridiculously overrated.

I didn't sum him up as a brag rapper either. I summed up BP3 as a brag album.

Yes I know Em idolized him... So what lol. Em also thinks 50 is better than him and Ca$his is 'nuts'. Em's opinion doesn't change my opinion no matter how highly I hold Em. Eminem is absolutely solar-systems ahead of Jay-Z lyrically, in concepts, in irony, wit, you name it.

It also doesn't matter if other rappers have been influenced by Em or not... So what again lol. That says nothing about how good they are to me. Just how many other rappers want to be them. And you'll find most rappers are secretly Em stans for one. Rakim highly praising him too.

Jay's wordplay isn't a scratch on Em's. None of his rapping skills are. And him doing it without paper doesn't impress me lmao. It does the opposite. It's like rappers who say "I did the album in just 2 days" as if you're meant to think "WOW, THAT IN JUST 2 DAYS? YOU'RE A GENIUS". To me that just says he can't care very much about his craft because just think how much better the rhymes could be if he wrote them down and stewed over them. It's not brilliance it's lazyness and an attempt to seem cool. Like trying to get an A on the test without studying just so you can brag. Sums him up.

Kid Cudi and Mos Def both had better albums in every possible way.

[Relapse.LP]

Everybody hears music different so not everyone will appreciate Em’s skill in song, it may and turn them off. It was Jay’s year, I bump every song on Blueprint 3 it was a classic. Relapse fell short of that even by your own admittance. Jay Z had 40 year old white men playing his record and liking it, they didn’t do that with Relapse. All around Jay had a better record. Skill wise Em got him, but we are supposed to listen to music for the music, not how many time a rapper rhymes in a line, that’s just extra for us Hip- Hop heads.

Blueprint 3 was a classic to you. To me it was a face-value, ridiculously feature-heavy, empty album that stunk of desperation. Made just to make Jay more famous. It's not even close to a classic.

Yeah I did say Relapse fell short. But nowhere near as short as BP3 lmao. Compared to BP3, it's mind-blowing. I cannot believe anybody into hip-hop can say BP3 is a better record.

And please don't say 'us hip-hop heads' as if I'm not one just because I don't like Jay lmao. That's all I listen to is hip-hop. Jay has and always will be overrated. He bites Biggie rhymes, Kanye's dress-sense, doesn't innovate much, has kept the same flow / style and just brags. He's not on Em's level.

Also, you're not getting what I'm saying. Like I said, the content can be ANYTHING. All that matters to be is how good it's done. So the problem with BP3 is not that it's just bragging but that the bragging was done BADLY. It was done in a brainless manner. Any good rapper could of made that album.

Here in America Jay Z is Hip Hop royalty. Jay and Em are different rappers, but you can’t sum Jay up as just being a brag rapper. You just can’t. Em even said he idolized and looked up to Jay. Jay Z is one of the greatest rappers of all time. So many rappers have his DNA in them and you can’t say that about Em. Even Em was biting his pattern in The Slim Shady EP. His words aren’t like Eminem’s but they shouldn’t be, that third verse on “Thank You” is brilliant. Jays word play is nuts and he does it all without paper!

Yeah I'm aware Jay is hip-hop royalty, you really don't have to inform me. Doesn't matter what country you're in, you just need to be into hip-hop to know that. I don't care how good everybody else says somebody is, I think he's ridiculously overrated.

I didn't sum him up as a brag rapper either. I summed up BP3 as a brag album.

Yes I know Em idolized him... So what lol. Em also thinks 50 is better than him and Ca$his is 'nuts'. Em's opinion doesn't change my opinion no matter how highly I hold Em. Eminem is absolutely solar-systems ahead of Jay-Z lyrically, in concepts, in irony, wit, you name it.

It also doesn't matter if other rappers have been influenced by Em or not... So what again lol. That says nothing about how good they are to me. Just how many other rappers want to be them. And you'll find most rappers are secretly Em stans for one. Rakim highly praising him too.

Jay's wordplay isn't a scratch on Em's. None of his rapping skills are. And him doing it without paper doesn't impress me lmao. It does the opposite. It's like rappers who say "I did the album in just 2 days" as if you're meant to think "WOW, THAT IN JUST 2 DAYS? YOU'RE A GENIUS". To me that just says he can't care very much about his craft because just think how much better the rhymes could be if he wrote them down and stewed over them. It's not brilliance it's lazyness and an attempt to seem cool. Like trying to get an A on the test without studying just so you can brag. Sums him up.

Kid Cudi and Mos Def both had better albums in every possible way.

Kid Cudi?

[watevermannnn]

Of course it will be a good year: Nas, T.I., Dre, Em, Redman... What more can u ask for

Lots.

Nas & Damein Marley (Can you say GRAMMY?)
Eminem
Redman
Method Man (solo record)
Red, Ghost & Raekwon
Two Raekwon Albums
Big Boi
Drake !!!
J. Cole !!!
Jay Electronica !!!!
Kanye West
T.I
DMX
Pharoahe Monch
Xzbit
Joe Budden
Crooked I
Joell Ortiz
Lupe Fiasco
maybe detox and a andre 3000 album as well

Really, how can anyone not be psyched for 2010?

Also, EminemBase, have you gave Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint listens from beginning to end? Jay is in a lane of his own. Also, I think Blueprint 3 was perfect for the time he dropped it. This is when people are still fazed by Kingdom Come, thinking Jay fell off. It was basically attacking those type of critics, over badass production by No I.D. and Kanye. The shit he said in his records, only he could say because of his position in the game. I mean, What More Can He Say (Check Black Album too, amazing)

[EminemBase]

Also, EminemBase, have you gave Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint listens from beginning to end? Jay is in a lane of his own. Also, I think Blueprint 3 was perfect for the time he dropped it. This is when people are still fazed by Kingdom Come, thinking Jay fell off. It was basically attacking those type of critics, over badass production by No I.D. and Kanye. The shit he said in his records, only he could say because of his position in the game. I mean, What More Can He Say (Check Black Album too, amazing)

Yes. I've listened to all of Jay's discography. I study every rapper because I love hip-hop. And I especially study ones that are revered (Em, Nas, Red etc.)

Jay-Z is not in a lane of his own to me and never has been. And he's certainly not close to Em. Just cite "Renegade" for proof. EM's verses were even old, Jay had a chance to listen to them and out-write them and still couldn't. Nas also ethered him with ETHER.

There's many better than Jay. He was never a serious #1 contender in my books.

I wasn't debating Reasonable Doubt or his past albums though so it's not right to bring them up. We were talking about BP3. It's like me saying "Come on, Relapse? Bad? Have you heard The Marshall Mathers LP?". BP3 is an empty, feature-heavy, desperate album. To me.

[Arrinef]

Also, EminemBase, have you gave Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint listens from beginning to end? Jay is in a lane of his own. Also, I think Blueprint 3 was perfect for the time he dropped it. This is when people are still fazed by Kingdom Come, thinking Jay fell off. It was basically attacking those type of critics, over badass production by No I.D. and Kanye. The shit he said in his records, only he could say because of his position in the game. I mean, What More Can He Say (Check Black Album too, amazing)

Yes. I've listened to all of Jay's discography. I study every rapper because I love hip-hop. And I especially study ones that are revered (Em, Nas, Red etc.)

Jay-Z is not in a lane of his own to me and never has been. And he's certainly not close to Em. Just cite "Renegade" for proof. EM's verses were even old, Jay had a chance to listen to them and out-write them and still couldn't. Nas also ethered him with ETHER.

There's many better than Jay. He was never a serious #1 contender in my books.

I wasn't debating Reasonable Doubt or his past albums though so it's not right to bring them up. We were talking about BP3. It's like me saying "Come on, Relapse? Bad? Have you heard The Marshall Mathers LP?". BP3 is an empty, feature-heavy, desperate album. To me.

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