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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby SajN » Jan 9th, '10, 16:19

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Evan C. wrote:Anyone who thinks Deja Vu wasn't the best song on Relapse is an idiot.

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Deja Vu wasnt the best song on Relapse. Not even in my top 5 on there. What can I say? Im a fuckin idiot.

Word, I am not into Deja Vu, and I am the kinda guy who likes personal songs.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby professor » Jan 9th, '10, 16:30

deja vu is a personal song
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby BILI » Jan 9th, '10, 16:32

professor wrote:deja vu is a personal song

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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby SajN » Jan 9th, '10, 16:34

professor wrote:deja vu is a personal song

No shit?? :o


I know that. I was saying that I like personal songs, but I didn't like Deja Vu.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 16:49

Evan C. wrote:Anyone who thinks Deja Vu wasn't the best song on Relapse is an idiot.


Anybody who makes a statement like this is a fucking idiot.

You're NOT a bigot you say? lmfao.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby Jens14 » Jan 9th, '10, 16:52

Yeah, it took time to take in but I like the album alot :y:
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby Kez » Jan 9th, '10, 16:56

My only problem is that i think the album shows so much missed opportunity. My Darling was better fitting and, indeed better, than 3AM, pretty much every song on Refill trumps all of Relapse, and postponing his "proper material" for another album a year later isn't a good enough excuse.

I'd say Relapse produced about 4 or 5 truly good songs, in my opinion. Deja Vu, Beautiful, Underground, Insane and Same Song and Dance at a push. Not that it's not a decent album to listen to, but i never did to Relapse what i've done to every other album of his, including even Encore, which is to revisit it many many times over years and years. I haven't listened to Relapse much at all since it came out.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 17:12

Kez wrote:My only problem is that i think the album shows so much missed opportunity. My Darling was better fitting and, indeed better, than 3AM, pretty much every song on Refill trumps all of Relapse, and postponing his "proper material" for another album a year later isn't a good enough excuse.


Well "My Darling" should of been track 2 but I don't think it should of replaced "3am", just pushed it down. And he didn't 'postpone his proper material'. At that time, he thought it was great and the original R2 was going to be more of the same. Then he re-did it.

Kez wrote:I'd say Relapse produced about 4 or 5 truly good songs, in my opinion. Deja Vu, Beautiful, Underground, Insane and Same Song and Dance at a push. Not that it's not a decent album to listen to, but i never did to Relapse what i've done to every other album of his, including even Encore, which is to revisit it many many times over years and years. I haven't listened to Relapse much at all since it came out.


In my opinion it produced way more than 4 or 5 lol. To me, nearly every song was fantastic. For different reasons. "3am", "My Mom", "Bagpipes from Baghdad", "Hello", "Same Song & Dance", "Medicine Ball", "Stay Wide Awake", "Deja Vu" and "Beautiful" are all great songs to me.

I listen to "Insane" the least. Just isn't as good as the others to me, don't know why people bum it so much. Then "Must Be The Ganja" is a great song aside from Dre's production. Great chorus and verses but the drums fuck up Em's vocals.

Then... "We Made You" was just a lazy throwback. Although it had a great new spitfire flow and nice lyricism, I really thought "Em, seriously". He used to be about the element of surprise, but five zany celeb-bashing singles in a ROW? That's really bad. It started off an accident and became a formula.

Then "Crack a Bottle" was good until 50 jumped on with his TERRIBLE verse. It didn't fit the album either, because it wasn't made for it. But Em's verse was nice. On "Underground"... I like the ambition in the rhymes but he fails a lot. Sometimes he genuinely doesn't make sense because he's trying so hard to rhyme hard. Also, his natural irony / wit is missing largely. Hope it's back on R2.

But nearly all of it is great to me. Just one or two tracks.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemIVLife » Jan 9th, '10, 17:42

My Darling should have definetely made the album. :y: And if Beautiful made the album, careful what you wish for should have as well. I think Must be the ganja is underated too
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby professor » Jan 9th, '10, 18:05

my darling is heavily over-rated to me. its a pretty good song, but ems lyrical word play sounds a little lazy to me. Him talking about paul wall and bubba sparxx shouldnt even come out of ems mouth. 3 am is a much better song.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 18:07

professor wrote:my darling is heavily over-rated to me. its a pretty good song, but ems lyrical word play sounds a little lazy to me. Him talking about paul wall and bubba sparxx shouldnt even come out of ems mouth. 3 am is a much better song.


Yeah the wordplay is lacking but that's because it's 07, when he was still fucked from drugs. You can tell, same as "Beautiful" - Slow, growly etc.

But I wouldn't say "3am" is a better song. The concept and execution itself of "My Darling" puts it ahead and the chorus is way better.

First verse was silly but 2nd and 3rd verses are brilliant.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby professor » Jan 9th, '10, 18:13

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professor wrote:my darling is heavily over-rated to me. its a pretty good song, but ems lyrical word play sounds a little lazy to me. Him talking about paul wall and bubba sparxx shouldnt even come out of ems mouth. 3 am is a much better song.


Yeah the wordplay is lacking but that's because it's 07, when he was still fucked from drugs. You can tell, same as "Beautiful" - Slow, growly etc.

But I wouldn't say "3am" is a better song. The concept and execution itself of "My Darling" puts it ahead and the chorus is way better.

First verse was silly but 2nd and 3rd verses are brilliant.


yea i agree that the second and third verses he picks it up. your right about it being a 2007 song and the way he raps it. thats mostly why im not a big fan of 'my darling'. but nothins as bad as ems verse on 'touchdown'. not to change the subject, but ems verse on touchdown is embarrasing
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 18:25

professor wrote:yea i agree that the second and third verses he picks it up. your right about it being a 2007 song and the way he raps it. thats mostly why im not a big fan of 'my darling'. but nothins as bad as ems verse on 'touchdown'. not to change the subject, but ems verse on touchdown is embarrasing


Are you just saying that because he's stated himself he hates it so much lol?

It's not even that bad to me. He's done worse than that. It's a little jokey verse in a southern-accent, taking the piss, "hopping out of the way like frogeer". It's not that bad at all.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemIVLife » Jan 9th, '10, 18:37

Imo its not that terrible or his worst ever but T.I did outshine him. Overall a decent song; Em started it well I think but didnt carry it well at all like he was reaching as the song went on.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby professor » Jan 9th, '10, 18:40

naw i didnt like it even before em said he was sorry for making it. cant stand when he made songs with that mumbling voice. same goes with 'peep show', horrible. but dude was on drugs.
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