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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby EminemBase » Jan 8th, '10, 03:12

No Em didn't rip the concept.

Speaking to different versions of yourself in a song is not unique to DMX. I mean you could probably go back hundreds of years and find examples of it in plays.

It's not shocking to see humans come up with the same ideas multiple times. We're pattern-seeking creatures and regardless of background, race or colour, we often come out with similar end-results.

Also, the tracks are quite different. I mean the actual... Root philosophy of the track is the old 'angel and devil' idea. The bad thoughts / good thoughts. You know I mean... It's been replicated in so many forms (good cop, bad cop) it's not sane to mention.

It's not where it comes from it's what you do with it. It's quite laborious and rather lame to keep tracing things back. You could do it with everything and chances are if you think something is original, you're wrong. I mean especially in our times.

But "My Darling" sounds less like Em writing raps to sound like verses. I mean like all... Em songs really, it sounds like a real-time conversation which just happens to be rhyming. That's so hard to do. That's his most underrated aspect, writing conversation that sounds plausible... I mean... It doesn't sound contrived it sounds REAL and sounds like the rhymes are coincidental.

Also DMX's song doesn't go anywhere near the depths of "My Darling" in terms of emotional ressonance. Not only does Em's psychotic voice acting take it to a new level but the idea of paring the emotions... My darling... I don't ever want you to leave be my darling... It's just. A lot better in my opinion.

Like I said, it's not where it comes from but what you do with it. It's not DMX's idea either.

Also rap, in terms of the music spectrum is very new. At best it's been around... 30 years. That's not only nothing in comparison to other music genres but it's not even a molecule in terms of the existence of most forms of art. So it's really very easy indeed to see duplications of ideas, concepts etc.

It's still a fledgling little chick, running around tweeting. So we magnify it and study the lyricism and the flows more so than any other art form. Not only because they matter more to rap but also because it's so new. But it gets more scrutiny than is natural. After 100 years, it'll be so common-ground to that generation, it'll be much harder to spot.
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby RapName » Jan 8th, '10, 14:05

Amadeo wrote:
grabdat wrote:DMX Was the first to do it. Do you think eminem was inspired to do it by DMX?

yes, DMX was the first to use alter-egos ever. smfh.

You allways smh, you must be dizzy :D
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby RapName » Jan 8th, '10, 14:48

Amadeo wrote:
RapName wrote:You allways smh, you must be dizzy :D

no you must be :happy:


Lol, i got it :8) haha
strikeboy wrote:Hey Alaine. I like young girls obviously and I don't get the oppurtunity to talk to them at all in fact. Well, I don't care really what you're like on the inside and I just really want you to come to bed with me. Would you do that if you could? Even if you were just average on the outside (but not fat) I could like you if you sounded smart.

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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby LLockhart86 » Jan 8th, '10, 15:02

What does SMH mean?
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby AliJack » Jan 8th, '10, 15:10

llockhart86 wrote:What does SMH mean?

Spank My Hunk
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby RapName » Jan 8th, '10, 15:23

llockhart86 wrote:What does SMH mean?

Urban Dictionary is you friend.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smh
strikeboy wrote:Hey Alaine. I like young girls obviously and I don't get the oppurtunity to talk to them at all in fact. Well, I don't care really what you're like on the inside and I just really want you to come to bed with me. Would you do that if you could? Even if you were just average on the outside (but not fat) I could like you if you sounded smart.

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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby grabdat » Jan 8th, '10, 16:12

Amadeo wrote:
grabdat wrote:DMX Was the first to do it. Do you think eminem was inspired to do it by DMX?

yes, DMX was the first to use alter-egos ever. smfh.


Sarcasm isn't the best way to make friends, Juno. I Was basically asking if people thought em was inspired by DMX to do it.
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby Sophie » Jan 8th, '10, 16:16

Put the handbags down ladies.
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby obzion » Jan 9th, '10, 20:44

He isnt going back and forth between marshall and shady, it seems to me like he is arguing with the guy he sold his soul to ("You sold your soul to me, need i remind you?"). and 'that guy' even talks about shady ("Shady I know your in there some where come here.."). and he's trying to convince marshall to let shady back in.

If im wrong let me know.
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Re: Em ripped DMX concept.

Postby TheKanza » Jan 10th, '10, 19:48

Emadyville wrote:Joe Budden did the talking to God one too, there are a lot of songs with similar concepts. I think it just differs in who you're talking to, and ems the only one who would go back and forth with Slim Shady :y:


well said :y: :) :y:
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