KRS-One Speaks On Jay-Z Stealing “Death of Autotune” & “Blue

[Relapse.LP]

You say the fact Jay-Z calls himself a God irritates you, while Rakim's name is literally translated to "Son of God"?

And it's all opinions, people. Jay-Z got his classic material, his whack material, as does everyone else.

[mcZu]

You say the fact Jay-Z calls himself a God irritates you, while Rakim's name is literally translated to "Son of God"?

And it's all opinions, people. Jay-Z got his classic material, his whack material, as does everyone else.

''Rakim'' means the all mercifull in arabic, not son of God.

[EminemBase]

I agreed with you Base, lol.

Yeah I know sorry, thought you were disagreeing.

@Relapse LP

Yeah everybody does have classic and wack material. I'm not hating on Jay-Z for his wack material, I just don't consider his classic stuff close to as classic as other greats that's all.

I just don't rate much of his stuff period to be honest. Reasonable Doubt is good to me but not a mind-blowing classic like people make out. There's so many better albums of that time period.

He's also a huge biter which is very annoying.

[Relapse.LP]

You say the fact Jay-Z calls himself a God irritates you, while Rakim's name is literally translated to "Son of God"?

And it's all opinions, people. Jay-Z got his classic material, his whack material, as does everyone else.

''Rakim'' means the all mercifull in arabic, not son of God.

In interviews, he always says it means "Son of God". Maybe he's wrong?

[EminemBase]

You say the fact Jay-Z calls himself a God irritates you, while Rakim's name is literally translated to "Son of God"?

And it's all opinions, people. Jay-Z got his classic material, his whack material, as does everyone else.

''Rakim'' means the all mercifull in arabic, not son of God.

In interviews, he always says it means "Son of God". Maybe he's wrong?

Yeah but that's irrelevant anyway. We're talking about Jay-Z not other rappers lol.

Also, it's not as annoying if that artist really is something else. Which I just never have considered Jay to be. He's not an elite lyricist to me, there are many better. He has some smooth flows... But largely repetitive content, he's way too cocky for his talent. I just don't think he's that great.

Wouldn't even annoy me if Nas called himself god or the best alive because Nas really is that good.

[mcZu]

You say the fact Jay-Z calls himself a God irritates you, while Rakim's name is literally translated to "Son of God"?

And it's all opinions, people. Jay-Z got his classic material, his whack material, as does everyone else.

''Rakim'' means the all mercifull in arabic, not son of God.

In interviews, he always says it means "Son of God". Maybe he's wrong?

Yeah, he is, it's actually ''Abdurakim'' which means ''the one who praises the all mercifull'' in Arabic. Rakim means mercifull if I recall correct. But I'm quite positive that it isn't ''Son of God''.

[Relapse.LP]

@ EminemBase, it's all opinion, as I said earlier.

Not looking for a debate or anything, but when Jay-Z wants to, he can really be dope. But some of his "when he wants to" times are a little questionable.

[EminemBase]

@ EminemBase, it's all opinion, as I said earlier.

Not looking for a debate or anything, but when Jay-Z wants to, he can really be dope. But some of his "when he wants to" times are a little questionable.

Yeah I know it's opinion. At no point here have I tried to bring you over to my side lol.

I've stated, I DON'T THINK he's that great. I'm just giving my reasons, it's a discussion. Not starting a debate or challenging you.

[Relapse.LP]

Yeah, he is, it's actually ''Abdurakim'' which means ''the one who praises the all mercifull'' in Arabic. Rakim means mercifull if I recall correct. But I'm quite positive that it isn't ''Son of God''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfaQfQYCfjo

At around 0:20. I think he wasn't translating it into Arabic, as he translated "Ra" in his name to "Sun God" which is Egyptian. Maybe it's wordplay, lol, since he said Sun as Son. Nvm, lol.

[mcZu]

Jay-Z is overrated, true. However, that doesn't take away his skill. He can be good when he wants to be, he has tons of great songs, and tons of horrible songs. And I don't think he really is biting, more of paying homage. I mean, if he really did want to bite, why not bite some really good lines from undeground artists? Instead he ''bites'' from well known artists.

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Yeah, he is, it's actually ''Abdurakim'' which means ''the one who praises the all mercifull'' in Arabic. Rakim means mercifull if I recall correct. But I'm quite positive that it isn't ''Son of God''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfaQfQYCfjo

At around 0:20. I think he wasn't translating it into Arabic, as he translated "Ra" in his name to "Sun God" which is Egyptian. Maybe it's wordplay, lol, since he said Sun as Son. Nvm, lol.

I see, well, it's not Son of God, lol. He said Sun God, as in the egyptian God Ra.

[slimsoxshady]

jigga dat n1gga

[EminemBase]

Jay-Z is overrated, true. However, that doesn't take away his skill. He can be good when he wants to be, he has tons of great songs, and tons of horrible songs. And I don't think he really is biting, more of paying homage. I mean, if he really did want to bite, why not bite some really good lines from undeground artists? Instead he ''bites'' from well known artists.

Well because he does the perfect biting technique. He bites Biggie rhymes because Biggie is a legend, so if people catch him out, he can claim it's a homage and it looks likely. Where as paying homage to some underground MC wouldn't wash.

One line, two lines, a few lines... Sure, homages. Em re-writes stuff like Slick Rick lines too.

But we're not talking a few here and there lmao. We're talking non-stop biting throughout his whole career. Even from freestyles. So he's quite obviously trying to get away with it then playing the homage card only when he's caught out.

You can tell too because some of the lines are from obscure underground Biggie freestyles and stuff like this. Stuff he probably isn't expecting too many people to know. He even does stuff like changes a word or two in the rhyme to make it fit himself so it looks like it's original.

He doesn't make it obvious, he tries to slip it in. He's a pure biter.

[slimsoxshady]

Jay Z is a legend bro. He has some of the most original songs out and a massive catalog so calling him a biter is straight disrespect.

[EminemBase]

Jay Z is a legend bro. He has some of the most original songs out and a massive catalog so calling him a biter is straight disrespect.

He is a biter. It's not disrespect it's a fact. If you don't know how big of a biter he is then you can't know Biggie's or Big L's rhymes very well.

He continually bites. And he may have a massive catalog but not that much of it is great IMO.

Everyone usually agrees Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are his best. I can think of tons of better albums from each year and don't think they stack up against other classics from other greats.

[notoriouS-K-M]

Yeah, he is, it's actually ''Abdurakim'' which means ''the one who praises the all mercifull'' in Arabic. Rakim means mercifull if I recall correct. But I'm quite positive that it isn't ''Son of God''.

Um....dude actually Rahim means merciful and that'd be "Abdul Rahim" what you're thinking of. Don't know about what Rakim means in Arabic but in urdu (which incorporates a lot of words from the arabic vocabulary) it means "A writer or a correspondent".