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Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby chiasmus » Jan 14th, '10, 03:50

I was thinking about what Em has said about Relapse 2 being more of an 'emotional' album than the first Relapse, and it struck me that I what I've been thinking about it may not actually be how it turns out.

When he said 'emotional' I just assumed that that would mean more of the tracks would be personal to him (think - 'Like Toy Soldiers', 'The Way I Am', 'Hailie's Song' etc) However, it's quite possible he could put out a whole album of emotional tracks, yet none of them actually be personal to him. I mean, 'Stan' is arguably a great 'emotional' record, yet the narrative is entirely ficticious. What I'm now wondering is how many personal tracks there will be on R2, ie, how many that are based on real life, as opposed to concepts he has made up - such as the diehard fan in 'Stan' for example.

What would you want to hear - emotional tracks based on reailty, or emotional tracks with more of an 'invented' feel to them? I think it's high time we heard about Em's REAL life, if I'm honest, but whatever is cool. :smoking:

EDIT: Just thinking, 'CWYWF' and 'My Darling' are both examples of more emotional tracks, with one being based more in reailty (CWYWF - he references that Christian rapper guy's track to him, i think, amongst other 'real' events) and the other with more invention to it (Em confronting the evil spirit o' Shady voice and seeing the mirror talk and stuff in 'My Darling')
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby chiasmus » Jan 14th, '10, 04:02

Yeah, I was thinking about the Proof issue, I think he'll do something...

I know Relapse was dedicated to Proof, but if not a full song on R2, maybe a skit, or another dedication or something, a song would be awesome though, and I think it's what we're all hoping for.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby Dark Blue » Jan 14th, '10, 04:07

well if he's gonna do that then it should be like the eminem show
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby BabyBLue91 » Jan 14th, '10, 04:33

The emotional tracks are still considered personal to him.. either one would be just as good to listen to
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby Bistnal » Jan 14th, '10, 04:39

I didn't think about that. But hopefully he does emotional songs that are personal and non personal. Like Sing for the Moment is emotional yet it's not really about him specifically. As long as there is a MIX of content and it's delivered and done good, I'll be happy with what he does. That's what killed Relapse, while it was good as a concept album, it was basically all about drugs & murdering.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 14th, '10, 05:03

I personally think he meant more emotional than personal.

Alchemist said he's creating the most psychotic shit he's ever heard in his life. Whoo Kid said that there's a track that makes you want to smash your head into tiny pieces too...

I think like any album, you will get personal stuff from him. But I can't see him revisiting Kim, Hailie or Mom. So I think you'll probably get a few serious ones about addiction and depression.

But also, emotional in the sense of... Well, the true sense of the word. He said he's gone back to making songs with 'feels' to them. I think he means atmospheric. Things like "The Way I Am". And yes I know that song is personal but it's more his personal opinions as apposed to personal issues. I prefer this.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby dR3 » Jan 14th, '10, 05:06

EminemBase wrote:Whoo Kid said that there's a track that makes you want to smash your head into tiny pieces too...


When & where did he say that? Or did you just make it up? :unsure:
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby Bistnal » Jan 14th, '10, 05:08

EminemBase wrote:I personally think he meant more emotional than personal.

Alchemist said he's creating the most psychotic shit he's ever heard in his life. Whoo Kid said that there's a track that makes you want to smash your head into tiny pieces too...

I think like any album, you will get personal stuff from him. But I can't see him revisiting Kim, Hailie or Mom. So I think you'll probably get a few serious ones about addiction and depression.

But also, emotional in the sense of... Well, the true sense of the word. He said he's gone back to making songs with 'feels' to them. I think he means atmospheric. Things like "The Way I Am". And yes I know that song is personal but it's more his personal opinions as apposed to personal issues. I prefer this.

I think that's when he's at his best. When he does songs that evoke an emotion out of him or that he has a strong feeling about. Like White America isn't personal yet you can feel the anger he displays in parts of the song, so songs with an emotional vibe, if not necessarily personal are :y: So if that's the case, then with his amazing rhyming he's showed us the past year, I think R2 might be amazing.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 14th, '10, 05:08

dR.dR3 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Whoo Kid said that there's a track that makes you want to smash your head into tiny pieces too...


When & where did he say that? Or did you just make it up? :unsure:


No, I don't make things up and certainly not that random. I saw him say it a few months ago when he talked about Relapse 2. Maybe an MTV report, don't remember.

@Bistnal - I totally agree. I've heard all I wanna hear about his personal life. But could quite happily listen to another 10 albums of emotional but true to rap, hardcore thumpers like "White America".
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 14th, '10, 12:29

I would like to see both, I've always enjoyed the tracks that give you that feeling, but it's entirely fiction, the intensity of Stan and Kim, or My Darling. Some personal tracks would be nice too, but I don't want a album full of Beautiful-like songs, about 5 of them would be reasonable. The rest of them, I want to tell some kind of story, that blows people's minds. The exclusion of the accent will help too, I'm glad Joe Budden spoke out and said that the accent is gone. That means less zany and more serious. But I would like to see about 3 zany songs, in a normal voice, like Elevator, which was primarily in his normal voice
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby ra1n » Jan 14th, '10, 12:42

dR.dR3 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Whoo Kid said that there's a track that makes you want to smash your head into tiny pieces too...


When & where did he say that? Or did you just make it up? :unsure:


it was actually Just Blaze who twittered that.

and he said its the the song that leads off Relapse(2); possibly talking about the first single.

He also twittered "I usually don't brag about my work but this is one of the hardest beats I've ever made"

pretty exciting to say the least.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 14th, '10, 13:31

Amadeo wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I personally think he meant more emotional than personal.

Alchemist said he's creating the most psychotic shit he's ever heard in his life. Whoo Kid said that there's a track that makes you want to smash your head into tiny pieces too...

i think Alchemist was referring to the original Relapse 2 (of which the best tracks were placed on Refill) & i doubt Whoo Kid has heard a single track from the album as he admitted in the birthday interview he knows nothing about the album.


No Alchemist wasn't because Em started changing Relapse 2 about summer 2009. Alchemist said he's making the most psychotic shit ever I think in September / October. So fairly recently. Odds on it was the new stuff, he also mentioned "Insult to Injury" around this time.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby Mikey1990 » Jan 14th, '10, 13:39

i do think he will have some personal songs
but hopefully some songs like lose yourself n 8 mile
i also think your going to hear songs from em that u never heard before
mr porter said that in a interview
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby UofLCard » Jan 14th, '10, 17:26

EminemBase wrote:But I can't see him revisiting Kim


He's not allowed to talk about Kim anymore, anyways.
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Re: Emotional not necessarily personal...?

Postby embm » Jan 14th, '10, 17:27

i like 2 see both
& yea 1 tribute 2 proof wud be good :y:
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