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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby EminemIVLife » Jan 15th, '10, 17:53

I would fucking love to hear Kanye diss Taylor Swift on wax. That would be classic and funny as hell.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 17:57

EminemIVLife wrote:To call his first 3 albums classic is a bit of a stretch; the first one was the best but it was just a good album to me; the other 2 are average (and I didnt even bother giving 808s a listen) His flow and technique are boring to me and I gave him a fair chance. Overrated imo.


Well that's your opinion.

My opinion is that his first is a classic... His second maybe not actually but his third is to me.

He increased his scope and ambition each time and each got tighter. Like Em.

I agree his flow(s) and technique aren't the best in the game but there's just something unique about the way he does it. I don't actually think his lyricism is average though. He doesn't rhyme the most or in the best way but he does it differently, has a poetic touch and comes out with flashes of brilliance.

His passion always stabilizes each track with an underlaying sense of ambition and strive for originality though. And he often achieves it. He also blends elements of soul and other music into his tracks too, successfully.

I probably like Graduation the most. Every track works, it's not too long, no pointless skits, it has a consistent feel and theme to it. It's great. I'd say it's a classic for those reasons and the fact each track is different and brilliant for different reasons.

Also, thinking about it, his lyricism is far from average when he's on his A-Game. Just listen to "Homecoming". I mean, not only a superb collaboration but his lyricism is great on it I think. It's more about the way he puts things, like Em... Often... Abstract, speaking above the average listener and not being afraid to do so. Respecting that if only a handful get it, that's okay because he only needs that handful and building that specific handful as apposed to a generic bunch is the true goal.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby DrRapid » Jan 15th, '10, 18:01

What's great about Kanye is that his music is easy to like. He rhymes about things more people can relate to and I quite like that really. His beats are superb and that's one of the reasons why he attracts more people in general.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 18:05

DrRapid wrote:What's great about Kanye is that his music is easy to like. He rhymes about things more people can relate to and I quite like that really. His beats are superb and that's one of the reasons why he attracts more people in general.


Agreed.

He does it with so much passion and sounds so unique too that I don't have to agree with him to love his music.

Like I'm an atheist but love "Jesus Walks". Normally a preachy song would annoy me but it's a thumping production and the way he's written it doesn't come off as preachy. Just inspiring.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby EminemIVLife » Jan 15th, '10, 18:09

EminemBase wrote:
EminemIVLife wrote:To call his first 3 albums classic is a bit of a stretch; the first one was the best but it was just a good album to me; the other 2 are average (and I didnt even bother giving 808s a listen) His flow and technique are boring to me and I gave him a fair chance. Overrated imo.


Well that's your opinion.

My opinion is that his first is a classic... His second maybe not actually but his third is to me.

He increased his scope and ambition each time and each got tighter. Like Em.

I agree his flow(s) and technique aren't the best in the game but there's just something unique about the way he does it. I don't actually think his lyricism is average though. He doesn't rhyme the most or in the best way but he does it differently, has a poetic touch and comes out with flashes of brilliance.

His passion always stabilizes each track with an underlaying sense of ambition and strive for originality though. And he often achieves it. He also blends elements of soul and other music into his tracks too, successfully.

I probably like Graduation the most. Every track works, it's not too long, no pointless skits, it has a consistent feel and theme to it. It's great. I'd say it's a classic for those reasons and the fact each track is different and brilliant for different reasons.

Also, thinking about it, his lyricism is far from average when he's on his A-Game. Just listen to "Homecoming". I mean, not only a superb collaboration but his lyricism is great on it I think. It's more about the way he puts things, like Em... Often... Abstract, speaking above the average listener and not being afraid to do so. Respecting that if only a handful get it, that's okay because he only needs that handful and building that specific handful as apposed to a generic bunch is the true goal.


You're right about Kanye being ambitious thats for sure. He's definetely an artistic person but it would be ideal if he had the killer presentation to go with it consistently; lately I have noticed him stepping up his game on feautures so we'l see where he goes with it.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 18:16

EminemIVLife wrote:
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EminemIVLife wrote:To call his first 3 albums classic is a bit of a stretch; the first one was the best but it was just a good album to me; the other 2 are average (and I didnt even bother giving 808s a listen) His flow and technique are boring to me and I gave him a fair chance. Overrated imo.


Well that's your opinion.

My opinion is that his first is a classic... His second maybe not actually but his third is to me.

He increased his scope and ambition each time and each got tighter. Like Em.

I agree his flow(s) and technique aren't the best in the game but there's just something unique about the way he does it. I don't actually think his lyricism is average though. He doesn't rhyme the most or in the best way but he does it differently, has a poetic touch and comes out with flashes of brilliance.

His passion always stabilizes each track with an underlaying sense of ambition and strive for originality though. And he often achieves it. He also blends elements of soul and other music into his tracks too, successfully.

I probably like Graduation the most. Every track works, it's not too long, no pointless skits, it has a consistent feel and theme to it. It's great. I'd say it's a classic for those reasons and the fact each track is different and brilliant for different reasons.

Also, thinking about it, his lyricism is far from average when he's on his A-Game. Just listen to "Homecoming". I mean, not only a superb collaboration but his lyricism is great on it I think. It's more about the way he puts things, like Em... Often... Abstract, speaking above the average listener and not being afraid to do so. Respecting that if only a handful get it, that's okay because he only needs that handful and building that specific handful as apposed to a generic bunch is the true goal.


You're right about Kanye being ambitious thats for sure. He's definetely an artistic person but it would be ideal if he had the killer presentation to go with it consistently; lately I have noticed him stepping up his game on feautures so we'l see where he goes with it.


I think he does have killer presentation though.

Feels like his flow and lyricism are both getting better. Like on "Kind of Like a Big Deal".

He's very hands-on it seems too like Em. Doesn't just take a picture of himself looking at you for an alum cover you know, he creates the whole package, a whole theme, a vision. Goes all in.

I'm not sure about the features since he seems to have been on a ton lately but I don't listen to them. I tend to follow individual artists as apposed to the game itself.

So I'm just waiting for the next material from him. I don't really listen to the guys he jumps on with.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby Duffy_hibs » Jan 15th, '10, 20:31

I can't stand Kanye tbh, and no it's not his personality, being in the UK we don't hear much from the clown, IMO he's one of the pop rappers ruining hip-hop.

You seem to grab every opertunity to compare him to Eminem, when in actual fact they couldn't be more different (in terms of what they both think an album should sound like), one's heavy on rap, one's heavy on singing, one has done songs with rappers like Xzibit,Dre & Snoop, one has done songs with singers like Wayne & T-Pain, I can't comment if Kanye has grown over his albums like Em did but I'll take your word for it, I'm not basing my opinion on what Eminem thinks, but I believe Kanye is one of the "pussys who queefed all over the rap game naked".
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby AliJack » Jan 15th, '10, 21:53

Duffy_hibs wrote:I can't stand Kanye tbh, and no it's not his personality, being in the UK we don't hear much from the clown, IMO he's one of the pop rappers ruining hip-hop.

You seem to grab every opertunity to compare him to Eminem, when in actual fact they couldn't be more different (in terms of what they both think an album should sound like), one's heavy on rap, one's heavy on singing, one has done songs with rappers like Xzibit,Dre & Snoop, one has done songs with singers like Wayne & T-Pain, I can't comment if Kanye has grown over his albums like Em did but I'll take your word for it, I'm not basing my opinion on what Eminem thinks, but I believe Kanye is one of the "pussys who queefed all over the rap game naked".

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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 22:07

Duffy_hibs wrote:I can't stand Kanye tbh, and no it's not his personality, being in the UK we don't hear much from the clown, IMO he's one of the pop rappers ruining hip-hop.

You seem to grab every opertunity to compare him to Eminem, when in actual fact they couldn't be more different (in terms of what they both think an album should sound like), one's heavy on rap, one's heavy on singing, one has done songs with rappers like Xzibit,Dre & Snoop, one has done songs with singers like Wayne & T-Pain, I can't comment if Kanye has grown over his albums like Em did but I'll take your word for it, I'm not basing my opinion on what Eminem thinks, but I believe Kanye is one of the "pussys who queefed all over the rap game naked".


You would only say this if you knew nothing at all about Kanye West, his background, his ambitions, his knowledge and passion for rap etc.

I'm in the UK and we do actually hear a lot of Kanye so I don't know where you got that.

I'm not talking about his latest fucking around with autotune, that started in 2008.

The College Dropout, Late Registration and Graduation are rap albums. With elements of soul. They're hip-hop. And obviously he doesn't sound like Eminem. Just like Eminem doesn't sound like 2Pac. But they're all similar in their ambitions, passion and love for the art.

Kanye is not a pop-rapper by any means. That's total bs. You don't know Kanye.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby BILI » Jan 15th, '10, 22:12

Kanye :worship: :worship: ,one of my fav new rappers
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby DrRapid » Jan 15th, '10, 22:23

To those who think Kanye West ruins Hip Hop well I perfectly see where you coming from. That's what I used to think. I used to think "bah, Kanye West is just another rapper doing nothing for Hip Hop." Well at that time what did I even know about Kanye? Nothing. I was so wrong to say that, I finally felt like I should give him a chance and I loved The College Dropout just as his other next 2 albums immediately. It was so easy to like, I didn't even have to put the effort to like them and listen to them. I realised that what really did the thing was the production. I also realised that he produced some really hot tracks I like by Jay-Z. So yeah, I used to think he ruined it but now I think he's doing something for it. If it weren't for his celebrity bullshit though it would be better.
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby BILI » Jan 15th, '10, 22:26

DrRapid wrote:To those who think Kanye West ruins Hip Hop well I perfectly see where you coming from. That's what I used to think. I used to think "bah, Kanye West is just another rapper doing nothing for Hip Hop." Well at that time what did I even know about Kanye? Nothing. I was so wrong to say that, I finally felt like I should give him a chance and I loved The College Dropout just as his other next 2 albums immediately. It was so easy to like, I didn't even have to put the effort to like them and listen to them. I realised that what really did the thing was the production. I also realised that he produced some really hot tracks I like by Jay-Z. So yeah, I used to think he ruined it but now I think he's doing something for it. If it weren't for his celebrity bullshit though it would be better.

agree wit you 100%,I used to hate him 2,but all you got to do is give him a chance,dude is dope,better then all these new rappers.Oh and I like that bullshit he does,Em should try it 2,so he could bring some controversy,like in old times :flower:
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby embm » Jan 15th, '10, 22:47

EminemIVLife wrote:I would fucking love to hear Kanye diss Taylor Swift on wax. That would be classic and funny as hell.


tru but pple wud hate him & shit
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby AliJack » Jan 15th, '10, 22:49

embm wrote:
EminemIVLife wrote:I would fucking love to hear Kanye diss Taylor Swift on wax. That would be classic and funny as hell.


tru but pple wud hate him & shit

I wouldn't. :laughing: the that lesbo Pink woujld get mad and diss back, shit would get excitin, Kanye Drops an album called "Me Against The Female World"
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Re: Kanye's Next Album

Postby BILI » Jan 15th, '10, 22:51

AliJack wrote:
embm wrote:
EminemIVLife wrote:I would fucking love to hear Kanye diss Taylor Swift on wax. That would be classic and funny as hell.


tru but pple wud hate him & shit

I wouldn't. :laughing: the that lesbo Pink woujld get mad and diss back, shit would get excitin, Kanye Drops an album called "Me Against The Female World"

lol @ female
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