Eminem's Latest album(s) sadly going downhill

[Arrinef]

Shit's embarrassing.

If it's embarrassing him it's embarrassing you

don't you dare say that isn't true

*spits beer*

[Relapse.LP]

Shit's embarrassing.

If it's embarrassing him it's embarrassing you

don't you dare say that isn't true

It isn't true.

[EminemBase]

Take this for example. Take your favorite rap album. I don't care why you like the album, could be creativity, lyrics, or production, or all three of them, or none, but just envision that record. Now imagine the same album with the raps being spit in a voice that resembles masculine (is s/he male anyways?) Elmo sniffing cocaine. Is it good anymore? Technically, nothing changed. Likability-wise, the whole album just went down a little, unless you're looking for a good buzz or just a laugh.

Yeah, some will say that the "accent" fits the "content" better. Then, not only are you insulting the accent, you're insulting the content.

Yes but this only works if it's fact that the accent sucks. Which it isn't.

It doesn't work on me because I don't dislike the accent(s)_(way more than one). They're flows more than accents to me. And they sound tailored and intruiging. And give him a new sound.

Doesn't detract from it to me. "Buffalo Bill" is awesome.

I just want more metaphorical language now and... Him to think bigger. With this new found ambition he can talk about more than just killing people now but I think he's realized that and gone beyond for R2.

[Relapse.LP]

Take this for example. Take your favorite rap album. I don't care why you like the album, could be creativity, lyrics, or production, or all three of them, or none, but just envision that record. Now imagine the same album with the raps being spit in a voice that resembles masculine (is s/he male anyways?) Elmo sniffing cocaine. Is it good anymore? Technically, nothing changed. Likability-wise, the whole album just went down a little, unless you're looking for a good buzz or just a laugh.

Yeah, some will say that the "accent" fits the "content" better. Then, not only are you insulting the accent, you're insulting the content.

Yes but this only works if it's fact that the accent sucks. Which it isn't.

It doesn't work on me because I don't dislike the accent(s)_(way more than one). They're flows more than accents to me. And they sound tailored and intruiging. And give him a new sound.

Doesn't detract from it to me. "Buffalo Bill" is awesome.

I just want more metaphorical language now and... Him to think bigger. With this new found ambition he can talk about more than just killing people now but I think he's realized that and gone beyond for R2.

I hope that Relapse 2 is a change in direction. Relapse: Refill was surprisingly better than I thought initially, but it still wasn't the magic I expected. But as I learned, don't believe the hype.

[EminemBase]

Take this for example. Take your favorite rap album. I don't care why you like the album, could be creativity, lyrics, or production, or all three of them, or none, but just envision that record. Now imagine the same album with the raps being spit in a voice that resembles masculine (is s/he male anyways?) Elmo sniffing cocaine. Is it good anymore? Technically, nothing changed. Likability-wise, the whole album just went down a little, unless you're looking for a good buzz or just a laugh.

Yeah, some will say that the "accent" fits the "content" better. Then, not only are you insulting the accent, you're insulting the content.

Yes but this only works if it's fact that the accent sucks. Which it isn't.

It doesn't work on me because I don't dislike the accent(s)_(way more than one). They're flows more than accents to me. And they sound tailored and intruiging. And give him a new sound.

Doesn't detract from it to me. "Buffalo Bill" is awesome.

I just want more metaphorical language now and... Him to think bigger. With this new found ambition he can talk about more than just killing people now but I think he's realized that and gone beyond for R2.

I hope that Relapse 2 is a change in direction. Relapse: Refill was surprisingly better than I thought initially, but it still wasn't the magic I expected. But as I learned, don't believe the hype.

Well that statement is too vague for me.

I can't just categorically say 'don't believe all hype'. Depends where the hype is from and what's said.

If it's somebody like Ca$his saying his boss is about to drop the best album in history, then obviously no. Or known bullshitters, their words are empty.

But when Em himself says about R2 he's putting everything he's got into it. And he wants to now make songs 100, 1,000 times. And Mr. Porter saying he's as happy with this as any classic album.

That's from the heart hype. From honest people. Who don't have a history of chatting shit. So I think there's something to it, especially when Em's saying stuff like that, himself.

So I think yeah, it's okay to believe some hype. Just pick it carefully.

[fosho14]

I am so motherfucking excited about relapse 2. I've been listening to some of the shit he's been saying in interviews and it is definitly going to be something we have never experienced before. I have a gut feeling that it's gonna have the same style as TES MMLP only with different concepts and much less hate, without the grotesque killing type imagery. I know for a fact that it is going to be more emotionally driven and more relevant to everyday life.

we will just have to see.

[EminemBase]

^ Well yeah that's what I want actually.

I want it to be more relevant to daily life. I want life philosophy. I mean that in the purest sense too, philosophy in Eminem style obviously. I would consider MMLP life philosophy.

I don't mind it being more emotionally driven as long as it's not all about him. If I had to name Eminem's biggest flaw it would be self-obsession lmao.

Nearly every single he's ever released has been about, related to or directly HIM.

I don't want an album of him moaning about fame, drugs and depression. I wouldn't mind an honest proof song and an honest addiction song but then I want him to look outside. He started to do it with "Mosh".

It'd be such a shame for him to hang up the mic never really exploring soooo much more that he could have. As in... I think he should look out more. Real life events.

[EminemIVLife]

@ the poster
You cant say that Relapse is Em continuing to downward spiral; it's simply a clever commercial move (due to Em's extended absense the label knew they could cash in) while at the same time working the final sideeffects of drugs out of Em's system (you just cant function normally even a year after a drug addiction like that which Em had (where you even have to rediscover how to enjoy the most entertaining thing {minus doing drugs} Right now Em's mind is totally different than it was; he's warmed up and now he can assess what he really wants to do having worked some dark feelings into Relapse almost as a type of therapy (for Em not us sadly)

[tigrot]

one thousand points for you man.....totally agree....

as said million times, relapse is crap compaired with Slim Shady OR Marshall Mathers LP OR Eminem Show

Hi there, I just want to say that I have been a die hard eminem fan all my life, but am just worrying about his present and future music. I think everyone can I agree with me that during the beginning of his career the kid was talented and just seemed to be getting better with every album. Starting from the slim shady LP really heating up with the Marshall Mathers LP and then when he released the eminem show, it was just ridiculous the guy was RED HOT!

Now whatever he had goin, seems to have peaked because encore was a little bit lesser quality, and IMO relapse did not sound like the genius, flowy eminem that we all know and love, but awkward and quite terrible to be honest.

Do people in the community agree that his sound has taken a (not so good) turn beginning with encore. Relapse is DRASTICALLY different from everything he has put out. I wish I could say different in a good way, but it's unfortunatly different in a bad way... I just long for the OLD shady, especially the style from the eminem show. Let's face it, the content of the slim shady LP, marshall mathers LP and eminem show, are light years, better than relapse!!!!!

[Justice]

lol, ok guys,



sslp and mmlp were his best, whatever he does now with never compete with them albums, they are legendary, but they were slim when he was (Drugged up, YOUNGER, beefin with kim, strugglin to raise his daughter, and hungry as a motherfucker'


now 10 years down the line,

nowadays eminem is, (older, more mature, DRUG FREE, straightheaded, a millionnaire, has his own record label, worldwide fame,

now because his life is TOTALLY different to when it was 10 years ago, his music has to be different, jesus christ people move with the times, we will neverrrrrrr have another mmlp or sslp, never, but what we will have is FUCKIN FIREEEEEEEE, now i am a die hard eminem fan, and personally i think relapse is on a par with TES, i love relapse, its an amazing creative album, i mean ' my mom is sik as hell, what a story he tells in that lmfao' and insane, that song is exactly what the name says, only shady would ever rap about being raped by his stepdad lmao. relapse is so fuckin awesome, i guess you guys who say your die hard eminem fans needa go listen again, because relapse is slim shady but he is the 2010 slim shady, not the 1997-2000 shady, he is older and has a much better life, money and struggle wise, obviously he lost proof and shit but altogether this is still that mmlp and sslp slim shady but one who has just grown up, simple,


move with the times people, lyrically he is doper, and wayyyyyyyyyy more creative, we all miss shady of back in the day, or shud i say (YOUNG SHADY) now we needa learn to love (OLD SHADY)

[shadyboymez]

Relapse needed to be made. Whether you acknowledge that or not is up to you. Relapse is a concept album, and it's his best CONSISTENT album (notice how I said best consistent, it is definitely not his best, but certainly not his worse, I'd rank it #3 on his best albums). He keeps the theme, and you notice that Relapse is a story of Slim Shady coming back, and by Beautiful he starts getting normal. Notice how as you progress further into the album, he starts sounding normal. It's a tale, a story. The whole album. A lot of people don't see Relapse past the accent. I do. And I get the accent, I'm not a fan of it, but it really captures the craziness inside of Eminem's head.

But, if the hype is real, Relapse 2 is going to be nothing like Relapse 1. Supposedly, it leans closer to a mix between MMLP and The Eminem Show. Which are my number 1 and 2 on my list. So, you don't have to worry about it going downhill. I have a feeling that Relapse 2 will be his strongest album. I don't know, I just get the feeling

So you obviously think Relapse is better than either SSLP , MMLP or Em Show...so no

How is relapse a concept album? It's not like the whole thing stays on topic at all. We Made You to Stay Wide Awake to Beautiful ...what is the concept?

[shadyboymez]

Relapse needed to be made. Whether you acknowledge that or not is up to you. Relapse is a concept album, and it's his best CONSISTENT album (notice how I said best consistent, it is definitely not his best, but certainly not his worse, I'd rank it #3 on his best albums). He keeps the theme, and you notice that Relapse is a story of Slim Shady coming back, and by Beautiful he starts getting normal. Notice how as you progress further into the album, he starts sounding normal. It's a tale, a story. The whole album. A lot of people don't see Relapse past the accent. I do. And I get the accent, I'm not a fan of it, but it really captures the craziness inside of Eminem's head.

But, if the hype is real, Relapse 2 is going to be nothing like Relapse 1. Supposedly, it leans closer to a mix between MMLP and The Eminem Show. Which are my number 1 and 2 on my list. So, you don't have to worry about it going downhill. I have a feeling that Relapse 2 will be his strongest album. I don't know, I just get the feeling

So you obviously think Relapse is better than either SSLP , MMLP or Em Show...so no

How is relapse a concept album? It's not like the whole thing stays on topic at all. We Made You to Stay Wide Awake to Beautiful ...what is the concept?

[EminemIVLife]

Relapse needed to be made. Whether you acknowledge that or not is up to you. Relapse is a concept album, and it's his best CONSISTENT album (notice how I said best consistent, it is definitely not his best, but certainly not his worse, I'd rank it #3 on his best albums). He keeps the theme, and you notice that Relapse is a story of Slim Shady coming back, and by Beautiful he starts getting normal. Notice how as you progress further into the album, he starts sounding normal. It's a tale, a story. The whole album. A lot of people don't see Relapse past the accent. I do. And I get the accent, I'm not a fan of it, but it really captures the craziness inside of Eminem's head.

But, if the hype is real, Relapse 2 is going to be nothing like Relapse 1. Supposedly, it leans closer to a mix between MMLP and The Eminem Show. Which are my number 1 and 2 on my list. So, you don't have to worry about it going downhill. I have a feeling that Relapse 2 will be his strongest album. I don't know, I just get the feeling

So you obviously think Relapse is better than either SSLP , MMLP or Em Show...so no

How is relapse a concept album? It's not like the whole thing stays on topic at all. We Made You to Stay Wide Awake to Beautiful ...what is the concept?

We Made You represents his fucked-upness; drugs making him say stupid shit with accent Stay Wide Awake he's still demented but in a far more lethal, doper way (drugs not messing up his skills as much anymore conceptually) the latter songs of the album beautiful, deja vu (retrospective looking back on the horrors of his drug addiction)

[Alaine]

agreed with people saying no matter how incredible lyrical Relapse is, if it doesn't sound good, it loses points Afterall it's still music, so it must SOUND good first before anything.

[EminemIVLife]

^Yeah, but even on dope Em cds you dont throw his CD on as background noise like the other disposable music I listen to. I can see people smoking weed to help them concentrate and really getting into Relapse moreso than doing the same and listening to some other popular album.