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Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby B.A.D. » Jan 22nd, '10, 05:22

EminemBase wrote:I hope not.


look, short nice post people can agree on :y:

me?? I agree with you
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby Spyder » Jan 22nd, '10, 05:32

Big Ax-D wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I hope not.


look, short nice post people can agree on :y:

me?? I agree with you


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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby Mr.Maximum » Jan 22nd, '10, 05:56

hopefully not, Fuck that
You mothafuckin' chickens ain't brave enough
To say the stuff I say, so just tape it shut
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby UofLCard » Jan 22nd, '10, 06:50

I hope not. But it's looking like it.
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby Raquel » Jan 22nd, '10, 16:33

yes, i guess
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby voice23 » Jan 22nd, '10, 18:05

maybe...and if so..I'm betting it will be tight--drop the world is my fav song out of the new batch of songs--(forever-the refill songs ect...)
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby shadyboymez » Jan 22nd, '10, 18:12

EminemBase wrote:DTW was okay, I liked the chorus n Em's verse was pretty good.

But I don't wnna hear him on R2. We will have a handful of features on there and one of them is already 50 fucking cent.

Another will be Dre, which is fine but it'll very likely be another throwaway track unless EM's come up with a concept.

Wayne just isn't that good of a rapper to me. His flow isn't tight enough, I find his voice a bit annoying and there are better lyricists. And since we will only have a handful, I just feel it's a waste to have one of them as Wayne when he could pick so much better rappers.

I mean why the fuck has he never asked Nas.

It's like... R2 should be
- Royce
- Nas
- Xzibit and / or Tech n9ne

DONE. Instead, we get 50 cent and Wayne? FFS. Em's taste stinks.


I agree with most of that. Why doesn't he get a good feature and surprise us .. tech would be great.
I think Wayne has gotten annoying to me too, mostly because of all the auto-tune shit he did. I was into him after Carter 3, but at this point I wouldn't want him on Eminem's album.
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby watevermannnn » Jan 22nd, '10, 18:42

Wanye COULD have the best verse, you never know. He's better than most people on here think. And Tech is wayyy overrated. Dude is mad corny sometimes.

Also, some of you fools put way too much importance on "addictive flows" and "poetry". Just because you have a perfect rhyme scheme through out doesn't mean shit. Relapse was perfect technically, but it still sucked.



You're headed my way, nigga you best to hit a U-turn quick
So what's happenin? I'm cappin shit up like a Western flick
The kinpin of the clique, top notch
17 shot Glock cocked, so all nigga drop
The run of the mill fool get broke off for tryin to serve
the best Kurupt's era, peep the terror, cuz it's a murder fest
I smoke chronic everyday, so what have we
Another motherfucker, gettin served like some cavy
Now who, drops (ruff rhymes) I got full Juice like 2Pac
(plus I'm) rollin with two Glocks
Fly motherfuckers can't see Kurupt
Hellraisin like Pinhead, beware I'm tearin shit the fuck up
Slow your roll, like your legs was broken
Who's jokin? Rakim never joked, so why should I loc?
Now that's my idol, check the vital rhyme flow doe
Runnin em like Flo Jo, stranded on Death Row
Mediocre motherfuckers die cuz I'm servin it
They can't fuck with or see me I'm mass murderin
[Smokin indo, look out my window I suppose] Yeah
[Niggaz don't understand how we kicks diffrent flows]
(I'm raw like new footage) I'm rugged like a BF Goodrich
(Bring your whole set and get your hood lynched)
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Peep the murderous styles and the poetical techiques
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby Heffernan » Jan 22nd, '10, 18:50

i hope so...im not even a hige wayne fan...all though i do find my self listening to him more and more these days..i have like 50 lil wayne songs on my computer (but i have over 200+ eminem songs)
but i gotta say...i dont mind a lil wayne and eminem collabo on R2...i would also love to see a eminem/asher roth song...and eminem/lupe fiasco...

some other collabs i would like to see (not necessarily on R2 tho)

ludacris
another TI...touchdown dont count :whistle: (i do like that song tho)
just em and kanye
travis mccoy from the gym class heroes (this guy is sooooooo dope...you gotta listen to him)

eh TBH i would like eminem to collab with anyone...i mean...its another eminem song..and i like to see em kill people


oh andy seriously what is with all that tech n9ne dick riding on this site...fuck him...i would take wayne over him any day
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 22nd, '10, 19:04

watevermannnn wrote:Wanye COULD have the best verse, you never know. He's better than most people on here think. And Tech is wayyy overrated. Dude is mad corny sometimes.

Also, some of you fools put way too much importance on "addictive flows" and "poetry". Just because you have a perfect rhyme scheme through out doesn't mean shit. Relapse was perfect technically, but it still sucked.


Well I've listened to most of Wayne's shit and all of his supposed 'classic' shit and he wasn't better than I thought. He was worse than I thought.

I took a natural dislike due to the cheesy shit like "Lollipop" n all that but thought... I'll give him a chance. So I did and... He's nothing special. In any department. I really can't see the fascination with him.

Also about having a perfect rhyme flow not meaning shit well... Yeah it kind of does lmao. That's kind of the point of the art. And Eminem purposely just focused on that on Relapse. He said back in the day ALL that mattered was rhyming and fuck everything else. So he took back to that. And nailed it.

But aside from that I don't think it was shit either. It was witty, packed full of beautiful twisted humour, visual imagery. Just great great lyricism.
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby watevermannnn » Jan 22nd, '10, 20:02

EminemBase wrote:
watevermannnn wrote:Wanye COULD have the best verse, you never know. He's better than most people on here think. And Tech is wayyy overrated. Dude is mad corny sometimes.

Also, some of you fools put way too much importance on "addictive flows" and "poetry". Just because you have a perfect rhyme scheme through out doesn't mean shit. Relapse was perfect technically, but it still sucked.


Well I've listened to most of Wayne's shit and all of his supposed 'classic' shit and he wasn't better than I thought. He was worse than I thought.

I took a natural dislike due to the cheesy shit like "Lollipop" n all that but thought... I'll give him a chance. So I did and... He's nothing special. In any department. I really can't see the fascination with him.

Also about having a perfect rhyme flow not meaning shit well... Yeah it kind of does lmao. That's kind of the point of the art. And Eminem purposely just focused on that on Relapse. He said back in the day ALL that mattered was rhyming and fuck everything else. So he took back to that. And nailed it.

But aside from that I don't think it was shit either. It was witty, packed full of beautiful twisted humour, visual imagery. Just great great lyricism.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNg7FM6uGjA

Lollipop is cheesy, so is We made You, Just Lose It, Ass Like That, and Fack. All these artists dumb it down for singles.

Back in the day? Like Infinite? Infinite was amazing with the rhymes but it didn't say anything. It was just rhymes. Two year olds can rhyme.

In SSLP, MMLP, and TES, he rhymed perfect and shitted on American culture with his social commentary. Now when he says twisted shit about Kim Kardashian, no one gives a fuck. This dude is not relevant anymore. He's just saying fucked up shit just to get a rise from people, but it's not working. It's almost like Em doesn't even understand his own genius. He doesn't know why his work is so praised.
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 22nd, '10, 20:11

watevermannnn wrote:Lollipop is cheesy, so is We made You, Just Lose It, Ass Like That, and Fack. All these artists dumb it down for singles.

Back in the day? Like Infinite? Infinite was amazing with the rhymes but it didn't say anything. It was just rhymes. Two year olds can rhyme.

In SSLP, MMLP, and TES, he rhymed perfect and shitted on American culture with his social commentary. Now when he says twisted shit about Kim Kardashian, no one gives a fuck. This dude is not relevant anymore. He's just saying fucked up shit just to get a rise from people, but it's not working. It's almost like Em doesn't even understand his own genius. He doesn't know why his work is so praised.


Yeah "We Made You" and "Just Lose It" and all that are cheesy but ironically. It's not like he was trying to be cool but came out corny. That's his zany shit. He's trying to be ridiculous so it's a bit odd to say it's genuinely cheesy when that's what it's spoofing.

He rarely dumbs it down much either. He dumbs down the substance of the song maybe but stays true to the art usually. I mean the rhyming in "We Made You" isn't made for the masses.

Difference with that and say "Lollipop" is, that track is made for the masses. It's pandering to a generic sub-type within a genre and Wayne is trying to be cool but coming off as cheesy. It's not a spoof but a failure. So they're very different things.

Well back in the day, just underground. Everything from "Infinite" to the SSEP. You say he didn't say anything just because he says that about it. But in reality, it's full of punchlines and a few personal thoughts. Pretty much the same as the next two albums. Except the next two are done much better and in much more original ways.

Yes he does need to get back to social commentary but he became a serial killer on Relapse. I don't give a fuck if he's saying anything substatial or witty about society, he was just creating violent fucked up shit as an excuse to rhyme well. As not much if anything allows you to push lyricism to such visual heights as does something as extreme as murder. Perfect topic to push boundries.

I'd also say the fact he had the biggest selling rap album of 2009, has been nominated for 3 Grammy's for it, slaughtered Drake, Kanye, Wayne - Three of the biggest mainstream rappers on a track and Lil Wayne on his own album track as well as having one of the most anticipated albums of 2010... Makes him VERY fucking relevant. Indeed.
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby Slill_Slim_Shady » Jan 22nd, '10, 20:23

EminemBase wrote:
One Mic wrote:I liked Relapse, have always rated it....and still do. But I can say that I much prefer 'Drop The World' to quite a few tracks on that album....including the garbage unforgivable "We Made You".

Even Eminem himself has admitted that maybe that track wasn't the right path to go down, and he was asked in an interview will he do something similiar again? His answer = "probably not"

Its mainly the accent but thats not the whole problem, as when the accent is used in the right places (such as 3AM, Stay Wide Awake, Same Song & Dance etc) it is great, but We Made You is terrible. Yes there may be a few multi's, but its a horrible song musically.

The best thing about this rubbish....is the video


I think "Just Lose It" is far far worse. I like the flow on "We Made You". The only thing unforgiveable about it for me is the fact he followed the same formula AGAIN. He used to be exciting because he was unpredictable but to do the same formula for the 5th fucking time. Shameful.

It's a little more forgiveable though considering he's killing female popstars all over the album, so it was more keeping with that theme. It's just he made it clean and less brash to be the lead-off. But I think "Taking My Ball" was the original 1st single. That's awesome and would of been way better.

The video is the worst thing about it for me. Tacky shit do be doing at 37. And yeah he just did it because they needed a clean enough single. I don't consider it that bad though. I think the lyricism is good, forget the mutlis, it's pretty good anyway.

I don't think "Drop the World" is better than any of them other than "Crack a Bottle". Em's flow and lyricism on almost every track of Relapse beats that verse, on every level and although the chorus / concept is quite cool, I still have to endure Wayne's annoying Marshian-talking in the verses.

@slimsoxshady - Lmao, yeah right. I'd be relieved and surprised if he has a verse that's not unbearable let alone the best on the album. With Em in this zone? Or even average Em. Em rapped circles around him twice and he's on the way up. And Wayne is supposedly in his prime. So how do you figure he'll have the best verse on the flipping album lmao. Especially with Royce there too. No chance.

for the first time i disagree with you. Why you hate so muck Just lose it?? Not his best but it's funny song and the video is hillarious!!! One of his funniest!! The moments that he run naked or the momenet with the old lady in the supermarcet, lmao that's classic. Maybe you don't like it couse he made fun of MJ?? idk!! It's my opinion ofcourse but i think We Made You was bad, the video is funny bud the songs sucks!! Same think with Taking My Ball - Good chorus but the rest - garbige!!! And why you hate so muck this "formula" i mean it's somethink like emblem for Em!!!
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 22nd, '10, 21:04

Slill_Slim_Shady wrote:for the first time i disagree with you. Why you hate so muck Just lose it?? Not his best but it's funny song and the video is hillarious!!! One of his funniest!! The moments that he run naked or the momenet with the old lady in the supermarcet, lmao that's classic. Maybe you don't like it couse he made fun of MJ?? idk!! It's my opinion ofcourse but i think We Made You was bad, the video is funny bud the songs sucks!! Same think with Taking My Ball - Good chorus but the rest - garbige!!! And why you hate so muck this "formula" i mean it's somethink like emblem for Em!!!


I don't like "Just Lose It" because the chorus is so fucking annoying. At first I didn't mind it but the dance beat is testing and the chorus just so irritating.

It was also the first... Seriously schematic 1st lead-off to follow the formula.

"My Name Is" was random. He just did that and is blew up. "The Real Slim Shady" he tried to duplicate that sound somewhat and came up with that. But he was being sarcastic and real and he was mentioning pop icons to separate himself from them. Since he was getting lumped in with them.

"Without Me", is just fantastic. More sarcastic shit but just epic flow and lyricism. His best of the bunch easily IMO. But it didn't feel formulaic as in... Relying on the celbrity aspect, he was just spoofing some people - He pretty much started Obama-jibes and was dissing people he had a reason to.

But then "Just Lose It" was just him totally bored with rap. He can write songs this in his sleep, it's not just throwaway, it's fucking around. It was just him falling back on the celebrity shit, relying on it for once as apposed to it being an upshot of the song. It just feels cheap. The others feel real.

And no I don't dislike it because he makes fun of MJ lmao. I remember MJ and others trying to claim this was racist!? Lmfao, totally bizarre. Just because he happens to have been black and he mentions him... The spoof had nothing to do with his race so this was just racism in itself. Absolute madness. But I don't care anyway, MJ's classic stuff is obviously groundbreaking but he was a weird guy I don't care.

But it's just the fact it was all random. He was just drawing a list as he did in "We Made You". The others either had a link or an intention behing them and the formula was an upshot not the driving force. "Just Lose It" is easily one of his worst songs. I also just don't find that type of humour funny. Stuff like falling over, slapstick, puking... Doesn't gross me out I just find it lame lol.

I smile because it's Em and I know he's just acting zany. But funniest Eminem is witty, ironic Eminem. Not fat-suit, make-up, naked or puking Eminem.
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Re: Will Lil Wayne Be On Relapse 2?

Postby AliJack » Jan 22nd, '10, 22:06

Lil Wayne could be on Relapse 2. it'll make for a dope track though, maybe Em will get his punchline game on and him and Wayne would go back and forth. that would be dope
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