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Should Doctors Be Able To End Lives?

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Should Doctors Be Able To Take Lives

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No
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Yes, Under Circumstances...
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Should Doctors Be Able To End Lives?

Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 18:48

Alright, I haven't seen this posted so if it has I'm sorry...so here's the question...

Should doctors have the authority to pull the plug on someone's life whether their suffering or they know they ain't going to make it???

I'll reply once a few others have....
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Postby Nick419 » Jan 28th, '06, 18:53

really i think it should be up to the family............so i voted no.
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Postby MuNxMuN » Jan 28th, '06, 19:05

yea i agree with eminemfan it should be up to the family
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 19:08

My opinion is that it should be under certain circumstances. If a patient is suffering and is going to die no matter what, and it's a fact, then I think they should be able to ease their passing. Also, if a patient isn't suffering, but they soon will be do to a terminal illness, and their already hospitalized for it, then that's another situation that should be taken under thought. I would agree with both of you on family, but what if all the family wants is the inheritance? And the faster their relative goes, the faster they get the inheritance. I see both sides to this matter, but maybe someone else will post something that jogs my train of thought....
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Postby SPEEDY » Jan 28th, '06, 20:00

I think that the doctors should use their professional opinion as to wither a person should live or die. If the decision was left to a distraught family then the sufferer could be put through more pain and stress than is necessary. Doctors have the qualifications and have been trained to deal with situations where they need to assess the quality of a person
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 20:03

SPEEDY wrote:I think that the doctors should use their professional opinion as to wither a person should live or die. If the decision was left to a distraught family then the sufferer could be put through more pain and stress than is necessary. Doctors have the qualifications and have been trained to deal with situations where they need to assess the quality of a person
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 20:35

So like a mutual agreement? I think that's the best way to put it........ :happy:
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 20:45

Yeah, same for me, I hate always seeing to sides to an arguement... :angry:
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Postby yoshi » Jan 28th, '06, 21:15

At first I was more against it, but then, I thought it may be better for the suffering person.. As a prospective doctor [yeah :8) ], now, I'd say yes, under some circumstances..
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Postby Curious » Jan 28th, '06, 21:39

This is an exceptionally difficult ethical question - who is to decide whether a person lives or dies? And is it fair to ask doctors to help terminate other ppls lives? It puts a massive amount of responsibility on them - would u like to have that sort of responsibility placed on your shoulders?
I'm inclined to agree that doctors should have the opportunity to ease the suffering of terminally ill patients, since that would be the most humane solution for the patients - for example I think that doctors should be allowed to sign prescriptions for pills that may help patients end their own lives if they suffer from certain diseases, as long as they aren't obligated to do so if they cannot live with the fact that they're helping other ppl end their lives...
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 21:47

I also wouldn't want that responsibility on my shoulders, but I also wouldn't want the responsibility on my shoulders to tell someone that their father, mother, sister, brother, daughter, son, loved one(to sum it all up) died...that would make things worse......... :(
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 21:53

I'd rather end the suffering of the terminally ill patient and let the loved ones also agree, and then let them spend the last few hours with them....but, the diffference between telling them and doing it..is this...if they die on their own after suffering, it would be worse for the family because they didn't get to say goodbye or talk to them or all that stuff, with ending their suffering they could say goodbye or talk to them and know when it was time...it would still be hard either way for the family...so. :'( it's still sad
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 22:16

I think it'd be hard either way....I mean...a lot of people would feel jealous, hate, or envy...I'm mean, not many people get to say goodbye to their loved ones before there dead...I mean, if I lost someone close to me and I didn't get to say goodbye or that I didn't mean any of those horrible things I said, and then I meet someone who ended their terminally illed loved one's life and they got to say goodbye and reconcile....then I'd feel jealous and hate, but then I'd envy them because they were able to say goodbye and feel the relief that I wouldn't be able too...it goes both ways.... :'( I still say it's sad no matter what...just thinking about loosing someone close to me brings tears to my eyes... :'(

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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 22:21

Sarah wrote:I would kinda feel the same way if it were me


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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 22:29

I'd probably yell and scream at them and ask how could you kill your loved one?? When their gone they ain't comin' back...I'd do anything to have mine back....How could you?????? Then I'd yell and scream and lecture them...until they told me to shut the hell up...Then we wouldn't talk for a few days, weeks, months, whatever suits us best...then I'd feel really guilty and call them up and apologize....and end everything like a Soap Opera :'( :happy: :angry:
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