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Should Doctors Be Able To End Lives?

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Should Doctors Be Able To Take Lives

Yes
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No
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Undecided
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Yes, Under Circumstances...
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 28th, '06, 22:38

Reminds me of highschool debate esays lol.

Sadly no matter wat my or ur opinion is... people will still be dead unless that got money to pay for intensive care.. in that way doctors are indeed already deciding wether the person lives or dies.

yes a person can be suffering from sumthing like testicular cancer wich IS painfull .. and worth killing urself for, but that doesnt mean that theres no way chance u can survive...
The doctor how ever bases his opinion on statistics and will tell u that ur loved one is hopeless, and if u dont have the money to pay for the intesive care , while his/her life is supported by numerous machines and the nurses running around doing wat they can to make sure ur still alive, they tell it to u in a more convincing way(the doctor thinks ur loved one wont make it anyway).
Sometimes, like in cases of coma, people recover, it might take a decade but the person will still be alive, it will cost u all uve got to pay for that care.
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 22:50

Sarah wrote:Sometimes I get that feeling that they do say that, which is kinda wrong to say that just because they may not wanna look after the person who's suffering. Cos like in a coma people do have a chance, but I heard they usually ask the family what they should do when it's a coma, cos the patiant can't say anything, so I heard they leave it to the family..



I never thought about the coma stricken patients...I mean, you can never tell with them...there's a huge chance they can survive and be brain dead, or they can survive and learn to adapt to the different changes that may occur over time, or they could just lay in a hospital bed in a coma, this is such a controversial issue....
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 28th, '06, 22:51

Sarah wrote:
they tell it to u in a more convincing way(the doctor thinks ur loved one wont make it anyway).

Sometimes I get that feeling that they do say that, which is kinda wrong to say that just because they may not wanna look after the person who's suffering. Cos like in a coma people do have a chance, but I heard they usually ask the family what they should do when it's a coma, cos the patiant can't say anything, so I heard they leave it to the family..



The doctor can ask them in numerous ways, and i bet he'll bring up the organ donation topic to compensate by saving someone else.
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 28th, '06, 23:02

no im saying the doctor knows that the patient has 90% chance of living..
and he neglects the 10% chance that the patient can live... he might not even be doing it intentionally, its logic that tells him wat to do.

So he says it the way he sees it, and unintentionaly makes the the relative make a choice that seems logical at that moment.
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 23:03

It's like an interigation, an investigator will ask you the same question in a million ways, and then when he's questioning his child's actions, he might do the same thing not on purpose...And then the doctor might do the same thing in a round about way.....
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 23:06

Sarah wrote:
AspirinE wrote:no im saying the doctor knows that the patient has 90% chance of living..
and he neglects the 10% chance that the patient can live... he might not even be doing it intentionally, its logic that tells him wat to do.

So he says it the way he sees it, and unintentionaly makes the the relative make a choice that seems logical at that moment.

Oh ok, I get what you're sayin. I guess they just look at the 90% of not living then the 10% of livin, cos afterall, there is more of a chance they're not gonna make it..


Sarah, he reworded it, it doesn't say 90% that he will die, but 90% chance he will live and then 10% chance he will live, unless he worded it wrong...
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Postby Shadyluva » Jan 28th, '06, 23:08

i think that doctors shud be able to end lives under certain circumstances/situations...if the person is already goin 2 die...theres no point in keepin them alive also wut if its really dangerous to keep the person live :unsure:
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 28th, '06, 23:08

yea sorrey i ment, 90% he will die
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Postby Ivy » Jan 28th, '06, 23:10

Shadyluva wrote:i think that doctors shud be able to end lives under certain circumstances/situations...if the person is already goin 2 die...theres no point in keepin them alive also wut if its really dangerous to keep the person live :unsure:



You mean like if their disease/virus/illness is catchable? Please elaborate....
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Postby Ivy » Jan 29th, '06, 01:01

I was also confused, but glad everything's straight, because I was tryin' to figure out which one he meant to be life or death....
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Postby ines » Feb 6th, '06, 12:30

yes, it must be that doctors end your life if they see that you never ever come out or have a normal life
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Postby hot_dogg » Mar 3rd, '06, 06:36

if the patient isnt going to kill anyone by staying alive -.-
why the fuck kill him? let the poor thing live
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Postby Fi.J. » Apr 1st, '06, 20:49

of course they shouldn't!!
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Postby snoop11978 » Apr 1st, '06, 23:56

I dont think that anyone has the power or should have the power to end someone else lives. But i know euthanasia is a big thing especially with terminally ill patient. There should be like a benchmark to decide if someone is gonna recover or not and even then it should be up to the family member of the dying patient choosing, not the doc.
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 2nd, '06, 02:29

i said yes under certain circumstances, becus to me..... its like, if a horse brakes it leg, u shoot it. theres no point in letting sumomone continue to suffer if u have the ability to end there suffering. and i dont think its playing god, cus its no different from saying they should live <-- to me thats playing god too..... its not up for us to decide, but under certain circumstances :whistle: this reminds me of that south park episode, lmao
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