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Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby ShadyVsEminem » Feb 10th, '10, 01:49

Its an upbeat album judging from Beautiful,Careful what you wish for and My Darling the King Mathers album(or whatever he was working on then)would of had a lot of self loathing.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby UofLCard » Feb 10th, '10, 01:55

Edge wrote:
ShadyVsEminem wrote:Beautiful is over rated and its ironic thats your favorite off the album.

The album is like nothin he had done before and obviously it would get a mixed reception,nobody is going around saying its is best album or one of the best albums ever or anything but it is dope.


pretty nicely said... i always skip beautiful, i never saw why everyone liked that song soooo much... good? yes but i dont like the drugged/depressed Em


Beautiful is also my favorite R1 song. I like emotional Eminem songs, myself.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby ShadyVsEminem » Feb 10th, '10, 02:18

UofLCardFan08 wrote:
Beautiful is also my favorite R1 song. I like emotional Eminem songs, myself.

So do i,not that one so much though.I would not want an album with to many emotional songs either.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby Gorila » Feb 10th, '10, 02:48

In my opinion Eminem shouldn't of have released Relapse, just a terrible comeback from him, it may not be totally terrible but its half-way through terrible. I mean who wants to hear him saying he jacks off to hannah montana? :shakehead: and how about still rapping about murdering and chopping himself into pieces? Terrible content overall, i don't know why people like this album, hey i guess its all about tastes i guess, and one more thing..................................




HE FKING RELEASED "WE MADE YOU" as a single :laughing: when i first heard it in tv i was shaking my head like this :shakehead: and how about that terrible Crack a bottle song :laughing: man i hope he proves me wrong in Relapse 2 and at least rap about something that has content in it.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby EminemBase » Feb 10th, '10, 02:49

haste2492 wrote:It was a poor choice for a comeback album, if he wanted to go all drugs and killing shit it should have been put together better, had no accent, or been an EP, NOT A COMEBACK ALBUM.


What? Firstly, 'had no accent' - Just because you dont like the accent>ssss<<<<<<<< doesn't mean everybody doesn't. It's not a bad thing just because you think it is. I'm totally glad he fucked with his voice and his flows as much as he did, sounds very addictive and unique.

And you emphasize not for a comeback album as if the subject matter isn't as valid as any. It's not what you say it's how you say it. You would rather another 15 When I'm Gone / Beautiful type fucking tracks moaning about his trapped fame and Hailie-Jade guilt? Fucking YAWN. The fast flowing psycho-spreeing is just what we needed... Or I needed anyway, after 2 albums of bitching and three dead years.

And who cares if lyrically this album is best. That doesn't mean anything.And if you want to hear a good killer song from Eminem listen to American Psycho from Devil's Night. His verse on that has killing content thats not exactly relateable but he raps in an appealing way that it works. Much of his rapping on Relapse was not appealing.


Well I care if it's his best lyrically. Kind of does matter when the point of rap is lyricism lmao. Not that I think Relapse is anyway. Relapse is his best in terms of pure rhyming but each of his albums is better than the last for different reasons and all different lyrically. Different types of lyricism.

His psycho-mind on Relapse and Refill is way ahead of American Pscyho. Just because you like his plain accent so what. Doesn't mean it's not appealing. Not to you maybe but his flows are magic now, he's way better, his voice fucking becomes the beat.

It mattered very much how much he focused on rhyming with this album and I'm so glad he saw that. Because he forgot the point of what he did, became too emotionally involved and was getting painfully technically lazy. I thought I would never hear an all out rap for rap's sake song from him again.

His self-loathing, predictive flows and lack of imagination was ruining his career. Now I have no idea what he's gonna come out with. He used the psycho shit on Relapse as an excericse for lyricism but now with R2 he's going different. So glad he's just obsessed with lyricism again. R2 should be magic.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby professor » Feb 10th, '10, 03:15

^^^^ I agree totally with 'Eminembase.' his lyrical wordplay is at the best its been in a while. For you to say that Relapse is "overrated" is just nonsense. If anything its highly underrated. I want you to spare an hour or two and listen closely to what em pulls together with words through his lyrics. Honestly, i think Relapse should be a lesson to any rapper or inspiring rapper. Matter of fact, why dont you guys spare 5 minutes now and just listen to "Must be the Ganja" second verse and tell who in the rap game can top that. Lyrical brilliance! Honestly, i think if you asked em what his must fun and best lyrical album he ever made he would say 'Relapse.' A lot of you guys just dont realize how good this album is.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby UofLCard » Feb 10th, '10, 03:15

Gorila wrote:In my opinion Eminem shouldn't of have released Relapse, just a terrible comeback from him, it may not be totally terrible but its half-way through terrible.


I think part of Eminem's intention for releasing Relapse was to show the public he still had the ability to rap. Now that he has accomplished that, he can now focus on putting everything into R2.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby gutawafang » Feb 10th, '10, 03:18

It's not overrated in Singapore. It's completely underrated.

Relapse songs are played on the radio less than 5 times a day. :(
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby haste2492 » Feb 10th, '10, 03:36

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haste2492 wrote:It was a poor choice for a comeback album, if he wanted to go all drugs and killing shit it should have been put together better, had no accent, or been an EP, NOT A COMEBACK ALBUM.


What? Firstly, 'had no accent' - Just because you dont like the accent>ssss<<<<<<<< doesn't mean everybody doesn't. It's not a bad thing just because you think it is. I'm totally glad he fucked with his voice and his flows as much as he did, sounds very addictive and unique.

To me it is bad. When I state an opinion I'm not gonna talk about how other people feel. I'll tell you what I think of it. I don't mind a few, but when it pollutes the majority of the songs on the album, and his songs in a REAL voice are much more intense, I do dislike it. His old voice was more addictive.

And you emphasize not for a comeback album as if the subject matter isn't as valid as any. It's not what you say it's how you say it. You would rather another 15 When I'm Gone / Beautiful type fucking tracks moaning about his trapped fame and Hailie-Jade guilt? Fucking YAWN. The fast flowing psycho-spreeing is just what we needed... Or I needed anyway, after 2 albums of bitching and three dead years.

It's not as valid as any. Hearing about Eminem rap about shit like lesbian vegetables and Michael Myers (like 5 times) gets old fast. "It's not what you say it's how you say it" DISAGREEEEEE. That makes no sense. And why settle for just flow?
Nope I don't want more of those songs. I never liked When I'm Gone, Beautiful is a solid song that reflects Eminem at this point in his career, hes rapping about legitimate things. Don't settle for killing when he's capable of reinventing himself in a much better way, but you're not creative enough to think hes capable of better so you just accept whatever he comes out with and try to make it work for you.

And who cares if lyrically this album is best. That doesn't mean anything.And if you want to hear a good killer song from Eminem listen to American Psycho from Devil's Night. His verse on that has killing content thats not exactly relateable but he raps in an appealing way that it works. Much of his rapping on Relapse was not appealing.


Well I care if it's his best lyrically. Kind of does matter when the point of rap is lyricism lmao. Not that I think Relapse is anyway. Relapse is his best in terms of pure rhyming but each of his albums is better than the last for different reasons and all different lyrically. Different types of lyricism.

I think we are looking at the word lyricism[i] differently. On his earlier albums he had sick rhymes and relevant things to rap about. Now he just has sick rhymes. [/i]

His psycho-mind on Relapse and Refill is way ahead of American Pscyho. Just because you like his plain accent so what. Doesn't mean it's not appealing. Not to you maybe but his flows are magic now, he's way better, his voice fucking becomes the beat.

I'm the devil - if ever there was such a thing
The results of much too many drugs what you're seeing
I'm a mindfuck, completely dis-(gus)-ting
I'm (white), a human mutt, fuck a being
I'm a dog - fuck lambs, I'm silencin 'em all
I'm involved in murders forensic science couldn't solve
Giant set of balls too big to buy a set of drawers
Might as well unzip my fly and let 'em fall to the floor
Each thought's completely warped
I'm like a walkin, talkin, ouija board
Speakin in tongues, I've never spoke this speech before
.. Hhem-delle-la, ennich-me-noughh-mi-niche-mick-norr ..
Have you ever experienced spirits in lyrics when you hear 'em
'til you scared to stare in into any mirrors when you near 'em?
Well if so, get ready for some shit yo
"Is this some kind of sick joke?" Shit no, motherfuckin schitzo
So disturbed, he just goes so berzerk he tiptoes
Fist first with scissors to slit throats of just hoes
Just goes to shizzow you dizzon't, fizzuck with
so-someone this disturbed, sa-sippin on si-zzurp
So - lock your doors, drop to the floors
Get your shotguns drawn - here comes another "Clockwork Orange"
Look at Bizarre; you really think he's right in his mind?
What the fuck you think's goin through it when he's writin his rhyme?

I think that verse is better than most of what Relapse has to offer. No embarassing references of dumb celebrities like brittney that make the album seem dated. Stay Wide Awake however, is great. Buffalo Bill is good too.


It mattered very much how much he focused on rhyming with this album and I'm so glad he saw that. Because he forgot the point of what he did, became too emotionally involved and was getting painfully technically lazy. I thought I would never hear an all out rap for rap's sake song from him again.

That I agree with. Focusing on rhymes is indeed important. But I want him to do that with something other than seemingly random rhymes forced to fit together that don't make sense.

His self-loathing, predictive flows and lack of imagination was ruining his career. Now I have no idea what he's gonna come out with. He used the psycho shit on Relapse as an excericse for lyricism but now with R2 he's going different. So glad he's just obsessed with lyricism again. R2 should be magic.


His lack of inspiration and boredom as seen on Encore was ruining his career, as evidenced by his lack of imagination and writers block yeah i agree with that. But the answer was not to rap solely about killing with a fucked up accent. I think he could have done this album better even given the material, but it was certainly not the way to reinvent himself. He could have come up with something better, and I don't think fans should be content with settling for this.

Give us songs at the level of My Darling. Seems like a perfect reflection of where he's been these years. Really introspective and just a great song. His verse on Drop the World was terrific, I can listen to that song a thousand times. I believe that when Relapse 2 comes out and he brings brings his A game you will realize that Relapse was just a stepping stone to something much greater, and more complete, and relevant. Look back at some of the lines in his songs on Relapse. I recall the line ,"I redeem my name and haters get mushed". That line fell to deaf ears because it sure as fuck didnt seem like it. I hope that Relapse 2 is really gonna make a statement that the best rapper is back on top and his songs will actually back that up.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby UofLCard » Feb 10th, '10, 04:02

EminemBase wrote:You would rather another 15 When I'm Gone / Beautiful type fucking tracks moaning about his trapped fame and Hailie-Jade guilt? Fucking YAWN. The fast flowing psycho-spreeing is just what we needed... Or I needed anyway, after 2 albums of bitching and three dead years.


Yes, in complete honestly. I would rather hear his moaning rather than some 'cut you up' horrorcore song.
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby slimsoxshady » Feb 10th, '10, 04:03

definitely UNDERrated
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby Ice_Scarred » Feb 10th, '10, 04:06

Overrated as HELL. Relapse is very lyrical....we all established that. Em's rhyming is on another level right now.....we all established that. Relapse was exciting first listen and got less and less appealing as time went on. Relapse was killed by a fucking accent, over-used content, and dangerously low replay value.

Relapse had the lowest replay value out of all of his albums, in my opinion. Encore was his WORST album in terms of lyrics and all that....but I can listen to Encore much more than Relapse. Encore had much more stand-out tracks too.

I expected much more of Em, but this was him getting drugs out of his system and getting back into the flow of things. Now he's sharp again and I have a feeling his next album will be a classic. I think Em is back to run things :wave:
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby UofLCard » Feb 10th, '10, 04:12

Ice_Scarred wrote:I expected much more of Em, but this was him getting drugs out of his system and getting back into the flow of things. Now he's sharp again and I have a feeling his next album will be a classic. I think Em is back to run things :wave:


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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby TheShadyest » Feb 10th, '10, 04:14

Eminems worst album is better then the best lil wayne album :coffee:
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Re: Who Else Thinks Relapse is OverRated?

Postby DƎRDYPK » Feb 10th, '10, 04:16

TheShadyest wrote:Eminems worst album is better then the best lil wayne album :coffee:


whats the best Lil Wayne album?
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