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Re: Abortion

Postby AbramIsaac » Feb 23rd, '10, 04:51

GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:I'm not a fan of the pill anyway. I meant safe sex in general, not specifically the pill.
Thank you, you're right, fuck the pill then.
Female condoms instead.
Or anal.

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BabyBLue91 wrote:I think there is a thread like this that I posted in before, but I'll restate my opinion.
I personally would never abort, no matter what the circumstances are. Yeah it might be the same as 'bacteria/germs' or whatever, but it has potential to grow into a human being. I read somewhere that most people abort during the first 14-15 weeks in pregnancy. The child's heart forms in the 5th week. So in this case, when a woman makes the choice to abort, I feel as if it is murder.


Nice argument. And your position is an understandable one to have, but in that regard:

How do you perceive the birth control pill? After all, it "aborts" fertilized eggs.
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Re: Abortion

Postby BabyBLue91 » Feb 23rd, '10, 04:56

I dont take the pill & dont really plan on it. I feel like by having sex, a woman should accept the responsibility for any child that can be conceived..
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Re: Abortion

Postby shadegirl » Feb 23rd, '10, 05:27

BabyBLue91 wrote:I dont take the pill & dont really plan on it. I feel like by having sex, a woman should accept the responsibility for any child that can be conceived..



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Re: Abortion

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Feb 23rd, '10, 05:31

shadegirl wrote:
BabyBLue91 wrote:I dont take the pill & dont really plan on it. I feel like by having sex, a woman should accept the responsibility for any child that can be conceived..



agree 100%

Very true, but men should share that responsibility as well, because an unwanted pregnancy obviously effects the man too.
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Re: Abortion

Postby BabyBLue91 » Feb 23rd, '10, 05:47

GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:
shadegirl wrote:
BabyBLue91 wrote:I dont take the pill & dont really plan on it. I feel like by having sex, a woman should accept the responsibility for any child that can be conceived..



agree 100%

Very true, but men should share that responsibility as well, because an unwanted pregnancy obviously effects the man too.


Youre right.. my bad. Both sexes should be responsible for their actions
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Re: Abortion

Postby Relapse.LP » Feb 23rd, '10, 09:26

People saying abortion is totally okay is a pinnacle of the corruption in society today.

The argument is probably something about choice or the "baby dead before killed anyways", as in, the fetus had not even developed proper "life" essentials before it was "executed".

Anyways, sex is the problem/
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Re: Abortion

Postby Knight-ofthe-Pen » Feb 23rd, '10, 10:38

well, as long as you have sex you always should consider pregnancy - as female anyway, because they are the one pregnant and mostly end up with the baby; but as male too 'cause you have to take your responsibilty for your actions and as a father then

but it's a decision anyone has to make on their own
here it's allowed till 3rd month and I think it can be helpfull, but all possibilites have to be considered
just there are situations/people within a child should not be born to, imo
Just a murderous Impulse!
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Re: Abortion

Postby embm » Feb 23rd, '10, 17:53

it shud be an individuals choice not the govt
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Re: Abortion

Postby Sophie » Feb 23rd, '10, 18:12

i think when the baby has a heartbeat, that's when it becomes murder.
i personally could never abort my baby..unless circumstances abosutely called for it and there was no other choice, cus i'd rather abort then give my baby up for adoption.
i'm not against other people doing it if there's a legit reason for it, but not as a way of birth control.
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Re: Abortion

Postby AbramIsaac » Feb 24th, '10, 00:23

Sophie wrote:i think when the baby has a heartbeat, that's when it becomes murder.
i personally could never abort my baby..unless circumstances abosutely called for it and there was no other choice, cus i'd rather abort then give my baby up for adoption.
i'm not against other people doing it if there's a legit reason for it, but not as a way of birth control.

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Re: Abortion

Postby Relapse.LP » Feb 25th, '10, 02:05

When people started to control sex, then society was fucked up.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Doctor Skittlez » Feb 25th, '10, 17:38

There Be Several Sides Of This Argument... I'ma Put Two Out Fo' Ya'll...

One)
The Thing About Giving Up A Baby Fo' Adoption Is That, Well, Based On My Various Cousins N' Friends Who Got Kids, Once A Woman Done Give Birth, N' Had The Baby Inside Her Fo' Nine Months, She Gon' Feel Connected To It, Like "Hey, Damn, This My Kid". But What Happens If The Woman Has No Means Of Supporting More Than Herself? She Gon' Have To Give The Kid Up Fo' Adoption. But She Don't Wanna Do That, Cuz She Become Attached To This New Life She Has Brought To The World. Now, Would You Rather Have This Kid Grow Up Underpriviliged, No Shit Fo' His/Her Entire Life, Probably Endin' Up On The Streets Or Somin'? Or Would You Have It Nipped At The Bud Where It Started, So We Don't Have To Bring Another Beautiful Child Into This World Jus' So They Can Have A Shitty Life? Chances Are, This Kid Might Get Killed Later In Life, N' That's Gon' Be Wit' Pain N' Knowledge. Whereas, If Aborted, No Pain, No Knowledge.

Two)
I Hate To Bring This Mu'fucka Up, But Think Of All The Shit We As A World Could Cure/Fix/Do Wit' All Those Dead Fetuses? You Go Search On Stem Cell Researchin' N' That's Where A Lotta It Come From.

Yeah, We Should Have Kids Knowin' Safer Sex, But They Ain't Havin' It. There's School's That Have A Required Amount Of PE Time Spent On Safe Sex, N' Half, Fuck That, Over Half The Kids Don't Listen, Or Don't Care, Cuz They Think They Ain't Gon' Get Pregnant. Yeah, Sometimes We Needa Deal With Mistakes, But At The Same Time, If A Mistake Is Easily Solved Wit'out Harmin' Anyone, Why Not? I Mean There Are Unsolvable Mistakes, Y'Know? But Fo' The Ones We Can Fix, Why Not?
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Re: Abortion

Postby Sophie » Feb 25th, '10, 17:42

Doctor Skittlez wrote:
Two)
I Hate To Bring This Mu'fucka Up, But Think Of All The Shit We As A World Could Cure/Fix/Do Wit' All Those Dead Fetuses? You Go Search On Stem Cell Researchin' N' That's Where A Lotta It Come From.

Yeah, We Should Have Kids Knowin' Safer Sex, But They Ain't Havin' It. There's School's That Have A Required Amount Of PE Time Spent On Safe Sex, N' Half, Fuck That, Over Half The Kids Don't Listen, Or Don't Care, Cuz They Think They Ain't Gon' Get Pregnant. Yeah, Sometimes We Needa Deal With Mistakes, But At The Same Time, If A Mistake Is Easily Solved Wit'out Harmin' Anyone, Why Not? I Mean There Are Unsolvable Mistakes, Y'Know? But Fo' The Ones We Can Fix, Why Not?

abortion is not an answer for unsafe sex, and that's not harming anyone? think of the baby, and the mother after they've had the abortion. :coffee:

i think you're thinking of adoption anyway and not abortion cus that's what you've been talking about, but this is for abortion :y:
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Re: Abortion

Postby Doctor Skittlez » Feb 25th, '10, 17:45

But That's The Thing, The Baby Don't Feel It. Like That Other Guy Said, The Baby's Like Bacteria, N' Do We Blink When We Anti-Bacterialise Our Hands? NO!

N' I Was Sayin' Bout Adoption In Accordance To Abortion Cuz The Chick Who Started This Thread Done Said It. N' i Was Showin' The Con To Adopting As Opposed To Aborting.
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Re: Abortion

Postby RapName » Feb 25th, '10, 18:50

Abortion, difficult issue. First of, i think everybody should be able to do what ever they choose to their body. Because it is THEIR body.

That being said, i'm no fan of using abortion as "the easy way out". If people feel mature enough to have sex, I think they're mature enough to deal with the consequences. In Norway (where i live), 50% of everyone that gets pregnant takes abortion. I think that's disqusting numbers and it makes me a little sad as well. Not because of religion or anything like that, but it reflects the overwhelming underlying selfishness in our society.
Even though we're dealing with unborn children, we still have the "use and throw away" mentality. It's kind of sick. :whistle:
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