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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby Eminem4Life1006 » Mar 7th, '10, 22:41

Terrible song :n: .
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 7th, '10, 22:44

LilWayne4Life wrote:That's funny because if i dislike an artist i wouldn't have clicked on there thread or press play in the first place. Knowing what i will be hearing from his/her previous work so you saying your here to discuss an artist which you dislike is bullshit, your just here to bash him and make drake and young money look bad and hopefully win fans over your "discussion"


Actually it's because I was browsing the hip-hop section and had literally only just listened to the single myself so came in here to discuss it since I dislike it.

Unlike you I'm not an idiot who sees things in black / white nature and thinks anybody who likes something is a dick-rider or anybody who dislikes something is a hater. I don't have a fucking personal vendetta against Drake you sad fuck. I'm just discussing how I dislike this first single, you know... Since it's a DISCUSSION board. If I like a Drake song I'll say, there's no automatic bias you fool.

And no I'm not trying to 'win fans over' by bashing lmao. Unlike you I'm not a sad fuck who literally dedicates his life to a rapper and even tries to sell their albums for them. I listen to rappers music but they're rich enough and liked enough without me wasting my time trying to fucking 'convert' people lmao.

As opposed to yourself. You're known to spend half of your life on here trying to 'win' Wayne fans. Constantly trying to convince people on an Eminem forum how Wayne is better. I was just innocently adding my opinion to ONE Drake song. Where as despite being in love with Wayne you spend all your time on an Eminem forum just to convince people he's better lmao. Sad fucker.

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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby Satire » Mar 7th, '10, 23:44

Adam Quinn wrote::facepalm

Wow, I never though I would say this about anybody but Nick you really need to get off Em's dick, I'm sorry but you are riding his dick hard.

"His flows are brilliantly put together and his irony is breath taking. His delivery is perfect and I jizz in my pants every time I hear it, when his name is brought up I get filled with excitement and a sudden lust for life, he places every syllable in the right place without ever losing the beat, it's delicious . I just want to lick him."

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You have absolutely no idea what flow is, you think you do but you don't. That's understandable because Em is your favorite rapper. I wasn't talking about just Drake when I said not listening to the music, I meant music as a whole.

It's your loss, I'm so glad I'm not narrow minded like that anymore because music is such a gift to me now. You look so much into stupid, meaningless shit, when you listen to music how do you enjoy it. Because songs aren't "filled with irony behind every corner" you say they are simple. WHEN YOU COULDN'T DO IT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.

Lilwayne4life has a point, if you don't like Drake then why did you even listen? :coffee:


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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 00:05

Adam Quinn wrote:You have absolutely no idea what flow is, you think you do but you don't. That's understandable because Em is your favorite rapper. I wasn't talking about just Drake when I said not listening to the music, I meant music as a whole.

It's your loss, I'm so glad I'm not narrow minded like that anymore because music is such a gift to me now. You look so much into stupid, meaningless shit, when you listen to music how do you enjoy it. Because songs aren't "filled with irony behind every corner" you say they are simple. WHEN YOU COULDN'T DO IT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.

Lilwayne4life has a point, if you don't like Drake then why did you even listen? :coffee:

Before you return for your response put your theme music on so I know you've returned. Jay-Z "Hate".


You're ridiculous. You keep falling back on this Eminem dick-riding shit, I thought you were better than half the morons here who use that stupid fucking bullshit. Obviously not. You're just as bad.

And to say I have no idea what flow is because EMinem is my favourite rapper is fucking ridiculous too. Eminem is one of the most versatile flow-artists PERIOD. Who the fuck you know can flow like "Stay Wide Awake" or "Buffalo Bill" - THAT is what you call flow. Rhythm and precision.

Drake has a SHIT flow and you OBVIOUSLY don't know what a good flow is as you think he has a good one. And I mention many other rappers but you just focus on the Eminem shit as a lazy cop-out. You also focus on my digression of irony and other things.

When I already highlighted Cudi for example and not for his irony but for his beautiful, layered hook-writing and B.o.B for his abstract, poetic writing. And they both have good flows. Drake DOES NOT.

And no LilWayne doesn't have a point because Drake is a new artist - Like I said, I only just listened to this fucking single - I give everybody a chance, every new song, unlike stupid fucks like you I don't just form an opinion and move on. I can't stand Lil Wayne but if he comes out with a great song, I'll listen to it. Take your head out of your ass.

I listened to it to see what it was like, why the fuck you think idiot. I don't just look into stupid meaningless shit at all you have NO IDEA what I listen to and you clearly have been reading fuck all what I've been putting.

Hows that for closed-minded, you're not even reading the fucking rebuttals to your arguments. I listen to everyone from The Beatles to Coldplay to Canibus to Status Quo. I like many different forms of music for different reasons. But rap is primarily about LYRICISM yes so of course lyrics matter. But there's all different elements to it - It's not just about "irony and meaningless shit" as you keep implying I think - If it were I wouldn't like fucking B.o.B and Kid Cudi. It's just about QUALITY, whatever you rap about. Being unique, having style, sounding GOOD. Which Drake does not.

And you think it's NARROW-MINDED just because I don't agree Drake is great? That is pathetic and you are a fucking MORON for saying that. Drake is lame as fuck, like you. Bigot. Also - Saying I couldn't do it to save my life. Are you fucking serious. You have NO IDEA again, you only know me from a forum and you're coming to stern conclusion based on nothing other than personal contempt due to a debate.

Absolutely pathetic and ignorant.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 8th, '10, 00:24

EminemBase wrote:
Adam Quinn wrote:You have absolutely no idea what flow is, you think you do but you don't. That's understandable because Em is your favorite rapper. I wasn't talking about just Drake when I said not listening to the music, I meant music as a whole.

It's your loss, I'm so glad I'm not narrow minded like that anymore because music is such a gift to me now. You look so much into stupid, meaningless shit, when you listen to music how do you enjoy it. Because songs aren't "filled with irony behind every corner" you say they are simple. WHEN YOU COULDN'T DO IT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.

Lilwayne4life has a point, if you don't like Drake then why did you even listen? :coffee:

Before you return for your response put your theme music on so I know you've returned. Jay-Z "Hate".


Who the fuck you know can flow like "Stay Wide Awake" or "Buffalo Bill" - THAT is what you call flow. Rhythm and precision.

Tech N9ne will ether Eminem in flow anyday
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 00:26

slimsoxshady wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
Adam Quinn wrote:You have absolutely no idea what flow is, you think you do but you don't. That's understandable because Em is your favorite rapper. I wasn't talking about just Drake when I said not listening to the music, I meant music as a whole.

It's your loss, I'm so glad I'm not narrow minded like that anymore because music is such a gift to me now. You look so much into stupid, meaningless shit, when you listen to music how do you enjoy it. Because songs aren't "filled with irony behind every corner" you say they are simple. WHEN YOU COULDN'T DO IT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.

Lilwayne4life has a point, if you don't like Drake then why did you even listen? :coffee:

Before you return for your response put your theme music on so I know you've returned. Jay-Z "Hate".


Who the fuck you know can flow like "Stay Wide Awake" or "Buffalo Bill" - THAT is what you call flow. Rhythm and precision.

Tech N9ne will ether Eminem in flow anyday


Nah. Tech N9ne's flows are amazing but I think Em's are more precise and better timed. He never raps out of time, every syllable is planned and maximized due to perfect writing.

Tech N9ne has done better speeds but Em's quick and at the same time rhythmic and enjoyable.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 8th, '10, 00:29

Eminem couldn't pull off a midwest choppers flow if his life depended on it...and i think most people who post in this section would agree with me.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 00:32

slimsoxshady wrote:Eminem couldn't pull off a midwest choppers flow if his life depended on it...and i think most people who post in this section would agree with me.


I think he could. And I think it's a bit silly to put that much doubt on that he could.

Because pre-Relapse most didn't know he could flow like that either. Most would of bet against him ever pulling off flows like "Must Be The Ganja" or "Stay Wide Awake" too.

I definitely think with practice he could. But he stopped rapping fast for the sake of it after Soul Intent. Now he raps fast but with shape and rhythm to the delivery so it's enjoyable and musical.

Ain't just about how fast it is. Sometimes Tech, like Twista just overdoes it like it's a race and forgets the rest of the elements.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 8th, '10, 00:34

he jacked Tech's flow on Forever and Drop the World after Crooked I slipped him some of that KOD crack
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 00:36

slimsoxshady wrote:he jacked Tech's flow on Forever and Drop the World after Crooked I slipped him some of that KOD crack


Nah he never. Tech didn't invent nor does he own that type of flow.

Em was flowing like that back when he started out, he just shapes and delivers it better now. That flow isn't owned or originated by Tech.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 8th, '10, 00:40

EminemBase wrote:
slimsoxshady wrote:he jacked Tech's flow on Forever and Drop the World after Crooked I slipped him some of that KOD crack


Nah he never. Tech didn't invent nor does he own that type of flow.

Em was flowing like that back when he started out, he just shapes and delivers it better now. That flow isn't owned or originated by Tech.

yea but the Forever verse came right after Crooked I slipped Em some KOD tracks...fact, not saying its certain but its possible. Em never flowed double time since Biterphobia
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 00:52

^ Leave your lame attempts of character-assassination at the door little boy, don't avoid the matter at hand in favour of childish tactics. I couldn't care less about ripping your paper-thin image up into tiny pieces, you do that to yourself. Now, back to the real stuff...

Adam Quinn wrote:You don't like Drake or "simple" not good raps. Why over stress that? Why? Why try to tell me and the tens millions of millions of people that something we like isn't good, just shut the fuck up and keep it to yourself. I like that about you though. You'll talk to every single one of us knowing you will get the door slammed in your face. It's brave but it's also stupid and waste of time. Pick your follows like you you pick your fights.


No, again you've missed the entire debate, it flew right passed you. You keep coming back to this idea that I dislike Drake because he's not complex. No, he just sounds shit. Forget irony, forget flow, forget rhyme schemes, forget all the important aspects of lyricism you deem 'meaningless shit' - I'm just talking SOUND. He SOUNDS shit. Crappy fucking autotune and gay little braggery.

And I actually just made one post stating my opinion on the song - YOU were the one who picked up on my response and continued to make this huge fucking debate out of it. I didn't personally respond to you asshole, so try remembering who even started the shit - YOUUUUUU. I'm keeping to my own business by posting innocently out in the open - If you can't handle an opposing opinion to your weak little emotional armor, tuff shit - deal with it. But then don't start a debate and bitch when I respond to your shitty replies.

Adam Quinn wrote:If you don't like it say you don't and move on. Why through your two cents in....
Coming straight from the rapper you say is horrible... "Well... I'm thinking I should leave out on this note Niigga keep your two cents I ain't trynna leave you broke"


Ergh yeah, that's what I try to do. But then weak-minded assholes such as yourself can't take the fact the opinion offends yours and you pick up on my post, quote it and start a debate.

You're shooting yourself in the foot by acting like it's me asshole, check the fucking history. Idiot.

Oh and don't delude yourself. Just because you dislike me, I have many here who agree with a lot of my views too. So don't try play the whitewash card and act like everybody's on your side.. Stupid prick.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby mcZu » Mar 8th, '10, 00:59

How's Drake's flow off? Every rhyme hits the snare, just two words in his last verse -not rhymes, just words in separate sentences- sound a little forced, which is a common tool that rappers use in songs to make their rhymes hit the snare on time..

I'm not saying that I like the song, but there is nothing wrong with his flow..
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 01:02

mcZu wrote:How's Drake's flow off? Every rhyme hits the snare, just two words in his last verse -not rhymes, just words in separate sentences- sound a little forced, which is a common tool that rappers use in songs to make their rhymes hit the snare on time..

I'm not saying that I like the song, but there is nothing wrong with his flow..


I meant more in general. This song his flow isn't entirely off, it's just shakey in bits.

Adam Quinn wrote:Why Eminembase why? Why why Why? We could have got along so well.

There is nothing I can say to you. I realize when I am speaking to a person who is just not on my level. Do your words make you feel special? Do they make you feel all warm inside?

You're a joke. The hardest thing right now is admitting I was wrong about you. You are worse than religion. I'm done with you.

Make another "wall of text" you don't even see how dumb that makes you look.


Sure. How impressive, the good old "Oh why why, I give up" get-out claus. That's not overused mind.

I can tell from that alone you're not on MY level. Silly boy. I'm not even using big words, I'm dumbing myself down as much as humanely possible for you. Tut tut tut, so foolish.

You're more than a joke, you're a fucking comedy routine. You're a full-blown comedy extravaganza. Sympathetic, cringeworthy comedy that is though. Here, have some gum dumb dumb.
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Re: Drake First Single "Over"

Postby EminemBase » Mar 8th, '10, 01:05

Adam Quinn wrote:
mcZu wrote:How's Drake's flow off? Every rhyme hits the snare, just two words in his last verse -not rhymes, just words in separate sentences- sound a little forced, which is a common tool that rappers use in songs to make their rhymes hit the snare on time..

I'm not saying that I like the song, but there is nothing wrong with his flow..


No, he says that because he's a fuckin idiot and he has no idea about what he's talking about as usual. :coffee:


No I say that because I know good fucking flows as I listen to rap music. And you don't because you're a mentally challenged pop faggot.

Fucking Redman, Nas, 2Pac, they're what you call good flows. Not that wannabe Canadian geek who suddenly thinks he's a gangsta-playa spewing utterly lame bullshit from his mouth. Off-target timing.
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