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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Knight-ofthe-Pen » Mar 28th, '10, 20:47

Kez wrote:
Knight-ofthe-Pen wrote:
Kez wrote:Fuck just the US, should be legal everywhere

There must be some secret reason for its banning cause if you can smoke cancer sticks and drink your liver to death why can't you smoke something that can not even kill you? Fucking stupid.

I don't know for cigarettes right from the head
but alcoholic drinks are socially acceptes since ~2000 years in the wester-society (not to talk about cultures before that time) - the way it's still legal it's called tradition and sociall habit


Yes but my point is that weed is equally as safe as alcohol and cigarettes and therefore shouldn't be singled out as illegal. Other drugs, sure, but not weed.

well I think alcohol and cigeraetts should be illegal as well - like any other lethal drug
Just a murderous Impulse!
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '10, 20:53

^ no they should not be illegal. It should only be illegal to do anything dangerous while on them (like driving and such) If I'm in the confines of my own house, I should be able to do Crystal Meth for fucksakes
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Kez » Mar 28th, '10, 21:44

Knight-ofthe-Pen wrote:well I think alcohol and cigeraetts should be illegal as well - like any other lethal drug


You sound like fun
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Knight-ofthe-Pen » Mar 28th, '10, 22:57

Kez wrote:
Knight-ofthe-Pen wrote:well I think alcohol and cigeraetts should be illegal as well - like any other lethal drug


You sound like fun

well I don't drink and don't smoke
and I think, as long as using them also effects other people then the user itself, these drugs should not be easily accessible
Just a murderous Impulse!
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby LLockhart86 » Mar 28th, '10, 23:04

Tash8 wrote:^ no they should not be illegal. It should only be illegal to do anything dangerous while on them (like driving and such) If I'm in the confines of my own house, I should be able to do Crystal Meth for fucksakes


No. Someone on meth does all sorts of stupid shit.

You can get so out of it you start hallucinating and dreaming while your awake and shit.

People jump into cars and start driving the opposite way on highways because of meth.

There was a story about these 2 kids that were all hopped up on meth and was callin 911 talkin about there car was flipped over and they were lost and needed help and that there were people watching them but they werent talking back when they were screaming for help. Turned out that they pulled over on the side of the road, left the car on, got out and started walking into a field in the middle of the winter...calling the cops because they were "lost" and shit...and the people they were yelling at for help were cows.

Nobody should be able to do meth, because meth brings out the worst in everybody.

that being said.... meth is awesome
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Kez » Mar 28th, '10, 23:08

Knight-ofthe-Pen wrote:and I think, as long as using them also effects other people then the user itself, these drugs should not be easily accessible


How does someone smoking or drinking affect other people? Unless said other people are weak-willed idiots, it won't. Loads of my friends smoke tobacco but i never have.
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '10, 23:13

llockhart86 wrote:No. Someone on meth does all sorts of stupid shit.

You can get so out of it you start hallucinating and dreaming while your awake and shit.

People jump into cars and start driving the opposite way on highways because of meth.

There was a story about these 2 kids that were all hopped up on meth and was callin 911 talkin about there car was flipped over and they were lost and needed help and that there were people watching them but they werent talking back when they were screaming for help. Turned out that they pulled over on the side of the road, left the car on, got out and started walking into a field in the middle of the winter...calling the cops because they were "lost" and shit...and the people they were yelling at for help were cows.

Nobody should be able to do meth, because meth brings out the worst in everybody.


:laughing: word

that being said.... meth is awesome


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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby Knight-ofthe-Pen » Mar 28th, '10, 23:36

Kez wrote:
Knight-ofthe-Pen wrote:and I think, as long as using them also effects other people then the user itself, these drugs should not be easily accessible


How does someone smoking or drinking affect other people? Unless said other people are weak-willed idiots, it won't. Loads of my friends smoke tobacco but i never have.

what has it to do with weak will?
have you ever heard of passiv smoking? and don't tell me that's bullshit, cause it's effecting your surrounding like I could witness it myself living in a family of smokers. I am the only one of my family who doesn't smoke, so much for weak will

and alcohol of course has effects to other people, even if they don't drink - cause they can be the victims of drunk people doing dumb and violent shit, who wouldn't have done that without alcohol, or at least not that much

or drinking and smoking while pregnancy can harm the kid a lifetime - and that has nothing to do with weak will

just as a few examples

I don't mind if you sit on your couch and drink a beer with your friends and just enjoy the night and thats it
but not everyone acts responsible with drugs and they can cause some serious problems to other people: like drive drunk/high a car - people still do it and hurt/kill unnecessarily

and as long drugs affects other peoples lifes but the users, I think none of them should be legal/so easily accessible
Just a murderous Impulse!
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby LLockhart86 » Mar 29th, '10, 04:30

Thats just medicinal right? Same for cali, its legal if you have a medical card saying it is, but this legalization is for everyone...not just medicinal purposes.
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Re: Marijuana Legalization in the United States

Postby AbramIsaac » Mar 29th, '10, 20:43

Wow. There's a lot of ignorance in this thread. Lot of good, kind-minded people as well.

First thing's first: prohibition is a failed concept. Regardless of your opinion on Marijuana, making it illegal does more harm than good. That's why the Dutch have lower usage rates of Marijuana than the United States. Even though they can get it any time they want, they don't. It's not as intriguing when it's socially acceptable.

Don't be stupid. Really, this is the safest recreational drug out there. Beyond that, it's wrong to tell people what they can and cannot put into their bodies. You get fucked up and kill some one? Guess what, there's a law for that. It's called vehicular manslaughter. Possession of a plant? That's ridiculous.

People will continue to smoke weed whether or not it's legal. The only difference between that and now is that it could be regulated. The most recent CASA studies show that a majority of high school seniors report that they can get weed easier than cigarettes or alcohol. Both of those things are regulated, marijuana is not.

The mexican cartels get a reported 60% of their revenue from marijuana. That wouldn't be nearly as high if cannabis was sold by Phillip Morris, you can guarantee it. Criminals benefit from the selling of this plant, and honest, otherwise law-abiding citizens suffer.

So...if you want to argue that Prohibition is the answer: you'll be arguing against the truth. It's not the answer, it never has been, and it never will be.
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