Deep Underground: The Mixtape DOWNLOAD!!

[Jaz]

Oh I remember you from Shadowville, I was looking for a battle and you said something about nobody catching your rhyme schemes and we chatted for a bit

I'll check this soon, you're pretty talented, just peeped that Freemasonry track, you may want to do another mixtape before an album though, don't rush things, really mature as an artist first

I like this. First advice someone has given me outside of actual song fixes, and I may just do that now, because that seems to make perfect sense.

Thanks.

[Jaz]

:y: I try to be helpful

and on that one experiment with more solo tracks where as this was more of a collab tape, be back with feed soon

yeah, I was supposed to have 2 more solo tracks and 2 less collabs, but I got lazy toward the end, thus we have bonus tracks haha

[Jaz]

Thanks for checkin' it out man.

As for the 'you know it' in the hook.. I swear I tried for hours to get a better version of me saying that haha. I ended up settling on that one figuring it sounded kinda like it was sort of going through either like a loudspeaker type thing or radio.. idk. I really wish I could have done that one part better though because i love that hook.

[Mr. Chambers]

Approx. half of the reviews I posted are from artists I've worked with, the other half is from artists I either slightly know or don't know at all.

Chambers I'm really misunderstanding what you have against me lmao. Is it because I called you wack? Come on man, you're bigger than comments like that you have nothing to prove here; I'm the new guy, remember? I'm bumping this because I want more people to hear it, not because I'm desperate for feedback, although feedback is always appreciated; whether negative or positive.

It just annoys me when people like clas the "king".. Who probably didn't listen to anything at all, say some bullshit like that, which is blatantly untrue lmao. Don't flow to the beat... Are you kidding me? I wouldn't still be rapping after this long if I still couldn't flow to a beat I'm not that stupid.

my young grasshopper...you have so much to learn about me
1) words hold no effect on me........none...you calling me wack is what my mother calls me for an alarm every morning
2)..i'm an asshole...not proudly....but i'm keep it real even if it comes off rash or dickish


as for what my problem with you...is you came here...or i guess any forum you signed up expecting ppl to suck your dick.....your very ignorant...of course theres politics....why the fuck would we help you if you just here to drop mixtapes and then leave....you are not eminem.....so it isn't like it's even our "pleasure" you bless us with this mixtape that might have 100 listens max....you have a very "yall should listen to this hot fire" attitude with only below average skills........you can get better...i never said it was hopeless.....but where your skills are at and where your ego is at in comparison....annoys me.....

hope i cleared that up.....

[Jaz]

Idk what exactly you're talking about. I've given feedback on at least like 5 other people's shit and offered it to people who check mine out as well. It's not like I came here saying fuck all of you; listen to this though. I said I couldn't do that much reviewing here because I already do it other places, that's A LOT different.

As for the ego, people enjoy my music. I didn't say I'm better than everyone, I just said I'm better than clas is giving me credit for, and as a matter of fact, better than you are giving me credit for as well.

I understand when people say "okay, just dont really like your music" or tell me what I need to work on.

But I'm not a below average emcee, and that's a fact.

[Mr. Chambers]

Idk what exactly you're talking about. I've given feedback on at least like 5 other people's shit and offered it to people who check mine out as well. It's not like I came here saying fuck all of you; listen to this though. I said I couldn't do that much reviewing here because I already do it other places, that's A LOT different.

As for the ego, people enjoy my music. I didn't say I'm better than everyone, I just said I'm better than clas is giving me credit for, and as a matter of fact, better than you are giving me credit for as well.

I understand when people say "okay, just dont really like your music" or tell me what I need to work on.

But I'm not a below average emcee, and that's a fact.

theres that ego...you are a below average MC.....your flow is still shakey......your delivery is still meh....your lyrics are straight..but not amazing....but you still got potential........like i said...i'll leave some feed sometime soon........i don't wanna seem like an ignorant hater.....just gotta give me time....

[Jaz]

well then i'll be waiting.

[Tranquil]

"forum politics"..look..i really ain't trying to hate...but thats general life........

"treat others how you'd like to be treated"....


yea....theres ppl that are gonna tell you something is "good"....i don't mean to rain on your parade....but they prolly ppl you know.....who don't wanna hurt your feelings...cuz your cool with them...i got them type of ppl too....

i ain't gonna lie and say i checked out the whole tape...but if you really this desperate for honest feedback...i'll check it when i get a chance and give you track by track breakdown...but if you so much as complain about one fucking word......i'ma write a 900 bar diss to you...record it..and call it "this is about jaz"....BBRRRRRRAAATTT.....sorry..i just felt myself getting to serious so i decided to cancel it out with some wtf?

i would love to hear that 900 bar diss man, shit would be hela dope,

[Jaz]

Oh I remember you from Shadowville, I was looking for a battle and you said something about nobody catching your rhyme schemes and we chatted for a bit

I'll check this soon, you're pretty talented, just peeped that Freemasonry track, you may want to do another mixtape before an album though, don't rush things, really mature as an artist first

Ahhh now I remember this. It was about text battles and how assonance, etc. doesn't always go over well in them.

Also Chambers, I'm curious as to what your definition of an average emcee is.

[Mr. Chambers]

your fan of eminem and canibus ain't you?

[Jaz]

That's average? I'll take below average as a compliment then.

[Mr. Chambers]

^did i say that?....i just asked a question...


funny how you "don't have time to feed ppl like that"...yet it seems anytime i'm on here your on here.....

just saying.

tbh...i made it to deep underground and got bored.......possibly cuz i'm in a "be a dick" mood tonight....but i stopped.....your flow is pretty decent...delivery is pretty decent....vocab is quite good....with all that being said....it all sounded very repetitive to me......you sounded like a mix of eminem and nas...with a tiny tiny tiny drop of canibus......and before you get your panties in a bunch and think i'm being hypocritical.....that isn't a compliment......sadly...your delivery in most of the songs in the songs i heard and rhyme scheme was that i could hear eminem doing....i'm getting tired of telling you people this....its making me sound repetitive......

"so how do i sound like nas or canibus tom?"
well...your vocab seemed to remind me of nas........so thats a good thing if you wanna take that.....
canibus tho...well anyone who knows me will tell you i dislike canibus....he just drones on and on trying to be "lyrical" or "mind blowing"...and it comes out boring....and making it to deep underground....i got the same feelings......i'm sorry...maybe it gets better deeper in....but for now i really can't listen to it...it just doesn't keep my attention....like i said.....your a below average mc with potential........you need to quit acting like being "below average" is a terrible thing if i'm saying i can see you improving.....everyone is/was below average at one point....


if i'm still coming off sounding "haterish"...i'm sorry...there isn't much more i can do to explain my thoughts.....

with that being said....if you feel your above my "Rating".....then theres no need to pay my opinion attention....becuz opinions are like assholes....everyone has one.....you gotta know where you at....and decide what feedback is legit and what feedback is dickriding/hate........


hope i helped you in some way and best of luck on future projects.

[Jaz]

I never said you were being a hater, I just said I wasn't below average lol.


As for Canibus, I completely agree. I've told many people who try to explain to me that he's the greatest. The dude uses big words and non-stop multies, but that means nothing when I turn the song off halfway through because it's in no way interesting or even catchy.

I'm starting to see your comments less as derogatory and more as you just attempting to make some kind of reality check, so I'm just going to stop arguing it (That doesn't mean I agree )

I'm guessing the reason you got bored is because Lyricide and Deep Underground are 2 of the tracks on there where I tried to get the most rapid-fire-y/lyrical and obviously you're not a fan of the style. But holla back if you ever get to the rest of the mixtape.

Edit: Oh and to the time thing, I play call of duty pretty much all night if I happen to be home, and post while I'm dead. Thus, I can be here, but not be able to take the time to listen to a song and then review it.

[Tranquil]

wow, your up yourself man Anyway, the mixtape, uhm, where can i start. Ok the only song i liked was Lyricide, and i dont even like it that much. Your flow is aight throughout this mixtape, the lyrics are aight, nothing special and nothing bad, and your delivery, meh, its aight aswell but to be honest, your voice does not stand out for me. Im not hating, im just telling you what i think of it, and i think that your next tape, if you make one will be better, keep doing what your doing

[Jaz]

It really must be a different breed of people here at trshady haha.. Not knocking your opinions, but I've posted my shit on myspace forums, soundclick forums, shadowville forums, here, and several random sites that I forget what they are, and this is the only one where one, let alone multiple people didn't like my music.

Oh well, I guess you guys just have different taste.