I don't care too much for money...

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

Tash, this is an intelligent conversation, not a Kool Kidz Klub meeting.

Don't patronize me.

[Tash8]

Tash, this is an intelligent conversation, not a Kool Kidz Klub meeting.

Don't patronize me.

It can't be an intelligent conversation when you are not thinking intelligently.

[mcZu]

It is not a Budden qoute, Fabolous said it.

And he is not contradicting himself, he's refering to having evil thoughts when lacking money. People refer to money as the root of all evil, while in fact men has the tendency to do evil things for money. And because the human race gives money its value, we give money the term evil. Ergo, we're the root of all evil.

No.
The human race in general doesn't give money value, a select few constitute a government give money value.
People are not born evil, but some are led to it.
And those who are led to it... are also known as politicians.

No.
If we, as the human race, didn't agree with a certain value set for the term ''money'', then it wouldn't have that particular value. And I never said people are born evil, I said we're the root of evil because we're not perfect.
And aslong as something isn't perfect, evil will exist.

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

Ah, but the concept of "evil" doesn't even exist in our minds if we place ourselves amidst in the dawn of man.
Hunter-gatherers, tribes, trades. Primitives. Animals.
Men were more animals, more primates back then.
Back then, murder wasn't murder, murder was hunting.
It was nature.
Just like when you watch an eagle kill a fish on a nature program. We don't call it murder, we call it instinct.
Only now, in our new age of political correctness (from the birth of man intelligent enough to create government), do we subconsciously turn nature into malice.
Therefore, the very concept of evil was birthed with government.

[mcZu]

I beg to differ. ''Evil'' is thee stagnation of everything that does not fit inside our concept of rationality. You may pinpoint the government as the root, but the government was invented by humans. Therefore, it is us, the human race, that has giving ''evil'' its value and definition over time.

Even animals refrain from doing things outside of their rules and code of living. Hence, everything that is done outside of those rules, can be refered to as being an evil act.
Evil and instinct share only one thing, which is the defense mechanism that thrives our acts to be in favour of oneself.

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

Oh, now I see why our debate is going nowhere. It's because we both have a completely different interpretation of evil as a concept.
It never ceases to amaze me how unique each individual person truly is.
Thanks for the food for thought.

[mcZu]

True, everything depends on perception. A coin has two sides, and beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

[Mr. Chambers]

''Money is the root of all evil, I thought
But when I'm broke is when I usually have the evilest thoughts.''

one of my favorite Budden quotes

It's pretty lame if I say so myself.
It's redundant.
If he's saying money is evil, then money becomes an entity in itself.
Therefore, the abscence of this entity is still only a counterpart to its origin.
Hence, Mr. Budden is contradicting himself.

its fabolous.......

budden is the shit...

money is contradicting.....both the glue of life....and the force that separates people

[BabyBLue91]

Hehe who doesnt love this song

By the way.. interesting read fellahs.. I say there should be a topic about evil itself so it can be discussed further..

[macdaddy019967]

Hehe who doesnt love this song

By the way.. interesting read fellahs.. I say there should be a topic about evil itself so it can be discussed further..

or we could have a private conversation on windows live instead

[DrunkenDeath]

I don't care too much for money...

really...

[*MIRANDA*]

The Beatles > *

[*MIRANDA*]

The Beatles > *

Amen sister

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i need to get new ones... fuck this not having money shit *kicks a midget*

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

Oh, the Beatles are the best!
Beatles Remasters... only set you'll ever need.