I don't believe in medication

[DrunkenDeath]

bleh. medication. to help with your depression or anxiety problems. or your bad memories or gambling problems. you're not willing to take care of it by yourself. so you want someone or something else to. you're relying on a pill to take of everything, and not even trying to do something about it. it's just like praying to a god. "god, please make everything okay." well look, if you're too stupid and selfish to try to take care of something on your part, then it doesn't deserve to get better. you're expecting this prayer to fix everything, without even thinking about the source of what's causing it. by relying on a pill or a prayer, you're not learning ANYTHING.

[EminemBase]

I can't even begin to explain how totally ignorant, irritating and utterly idiotic this thread and more importantly its contents really are. I was about to speed type but I'm tired and you're too much of a moron (self-evident) to understand or reason with it anyway. As you were.

As for trying to compare provable, repeatable, double-blind tested scientifically-sound medication to praying to god. Metaphorically or not. Implying it's asking for a miracle and having no real effect... You deserve to be shot.

There is no god. But there are mental disorders, as with any other organ. There's just this absurd biased against it, the assumption it's 'will power' which is ludicrous anyway due to the fact we can only 'will' ourselves to the limits our genes have dictated.

You wouldn't compare medication which rid the liver of a terrible disease praying or silly. Or unneeded. You just think because the brain is a conscious organ which you feel you can dictate, even though it's dictating itself and you're always too far ahead of yourself to realize it - That it can't have significant, genetically influenced abnormalities which cannot be out-thought, that is why they exist.

They're a rarity, if they could be out-thought... I mean... Suggesting an ADHD or Autistic brain can out-think and correct its problems when it IS the cause and entire realm of the problems lmao. You idiot.

[DrunkenDeath]

You're right, there is no god. the only thing that does have effect, is the medication. but after you stop taking the pills after several months, and then a couple months go by, are you back to the way you were, or has something changed? have you learned how to deal with anything?

[embm]

ya me 2
wit those damn side effects
beta 2 use natural shit 2 get beta

[Tornado]

You're right, there is no god. the only thing that does have effect, is the medication. but after you stop taking the pills after several months, and then a couple months go by, are you back to the way you were, or has something changed? have you learned how to deal with anything?

That's a very good point though i'm on the fence with this one

[EminemBase]

You're right, there is no god. the only thing that does have effect, is the medication. but after you stop taking the pills after several months, and then a couple months go by, are you back to the way you were, or has something changed? have you learned how to deal with anything?

Well that's the point, you don't stop taking the medication.

There is no 'cure' for ADHD. It's a constant brain malfunction so has to be constantly 'fixed'. You can't teach your brain to start producing the fix itself when the medication is taken away.

That's blazingly obvious. I think you're assuming it's emotional issues here. ADHD, just as example of course, is actually a differently wired brain. You can't 'think' it correct. It doesn't work that way.

You can certainly learn to cope with it, but the problems won't go away or be fixed, you'll just learn new irritations on top of the old ones and you go round and round. It's a disorder of the brain and fixing the disorder with a medication that gets right to the root of the problem, is not covering over it, it's not hiding it - It's getting the the SOURCE. It IS the fix. That's the correct way to do things.

ADHD medication, again, just as an example, you don't need to focus on that but it's just a good one - Is for life. But so what. It's not particularly dangerous, it's a pill a day, to fix some issues in your brain that have been almost exclusively caused by genetic issues that will cause you a LIFETIME of endless problems. Leaving it unfixed or trying to ignore it or 'will' your way out of = Absolute mess.

It's like telling someone with a leg missing to just cope with one when they could very easily have an extended limb put back on. I'm sure they could, again, it would be very difficult for them, I know some people see some sort of perverse pride in that - But if that person could get a bionic leg which would give them at least the feeling of having two limbs again... Surely that is the better option.

That analogy fits perfectly with the ADHD example, again, you don't have to take the comparison LITERALLY, many people do this and it's really fucking annoying ie. "OMG DID U JUST COMPARE ADHD TO HAVING 1 LEG AHAHAH" - The point of the analogy is of course to show the similarity in the theory, not the exact situation. The theory is modelled on the same psychological principal.

So yeah. Anyway. Think what you want. Later.

[dR3]

I don't think we would last long without medications.

[DrunkenDeath]

You're right, there is no god. the only thing that does have effect, is the medication. but after you stop taking the pills after several months, and then a couple months go by, are you back to the way you were, or has something changed? have you learned how to deal with anything?

That's a very good point though i'm on the fence with this one

[Brandon S]

I have dealt with ADHD and off depression my entire life, among other things. ADHD isn't something that you can fucking make go away, it's something your born with, and will have to deal with it for the rest of your life. It could get better with time, but there's no cure for it. As for depression, medication actually CAN help you get through it for a certain time period, and it can get better and you can stop taking medication for it. Same concept goes for so many things. It's not being lazy or taking the shortcut, it's getting help for yourself so that you can actually get through the day feeling good. I take medication for ADHD once a day, and it helps me out in ways that are IMPOSSIBLE to help myself without mediacation. Like EminemBase said, you can't 'think' it correct.

[Arrinef]

fuck that, when i had my ex bitch rooming with me, i let her bring her cat knowing damn well i was allergic, but my allergy pills were the only thing keeping me from sneezing on the bitch as we fucked.

adhd, and other shit maybe, but the mother fucker that invented allergy medicine is worthy of a thumbs up

[DrunkenDeath]

Well, I don't think medication is 'wrong' as it suits some people for various reasons. Weather it's a headache or depression it can be very helpful. However, I refuse to use any kind of medication. When I was given anti depressants a few years ago I felt like a robot. It literally felt like happiness was 'the little white pill'. All I got was side effects, which made the matters worse. This time around I'm dealing it with it by myself. I have bad days and I have good days. But I find that forcing myself to get out of bed and just getting on with the day is a better technique for me.

At the end of the day every person is different. There isn't just one way of dealing with things. Some people find it easier with medication and some don't. Ok 'the little white pill' might not take away all of your problems but it can help you along the way. One step at the time.

[DrunkenDeath]

I have dealt with ADHD and off depression my entire life, among other things. ADHD isn't something that you can fucking make go away, it's something your born with, and will have to deal with it for the rest of your life. It could get better with time, but there's no cure for it. As for depression, medication actually CAN help you get through it for a certain time period, and it can get better and you can stop taking medication for it. Same concept goes for so many things. It's not being lazy or taking the shortcut, it's getting help for yourself so that you can actually get through the day feeling good. I take medication for ADHD once a day, and it helps me out in ways that are IMPOSSIBLE to help myself without mediacation. Like EminemBase said, you can't 'think' it correct.

mhm


I actually have a pill for adhd... that i was planning on using to get high or to help with homework... maybe i'll take it tomorrow morning just to see how things work. it's hard to pay attention to a book sometimes.

[Brandon S]

I have dealt with ADHD and off depression my entire life, among other things. ADHD isn't something that you can fucking make go away, it's something your born with, and will have to deal with it for the rest of your life. It could get better with time, but there's no cure for it. As for depression, medication actually CAN help you get through it for a certain time period, and it can get better and you can stop taking medication for it. Same concept goes for so many things. It's not being lazy or taking the shortcut, it's getting help for yourself so that you can actually get through the day feeling good. I take medication for ADHD once a day, and it helps me out in ways that are IMPOSSIBLE to help myself without mediacation. Like EminemBase said, you can't 'think' it correct.

mhm


I actually have a pill for adhd... that i was planning on using to get high or to help with homework... maybe i'll take it tomorrow morning just to see how things work. it's hard to pay attention to a book sometimes.

u do that

[RapName]

Fuck this discussion.

Pills are not good for you, weather you need it or not. In some cases pills are necessary, but in most cases the issue should be dealt with another way. The problem with pills is that a lot of them is super addictive and has so many bad side-effects that it can make things worse. Getting depended on a pill is never a good thing, but what are you gonne do if you have ADHD? Speed isn't really good for you...

[Drama Setter]

But we humans got no chance you gotta deal with it till death do us a part