Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

[Wic Kid]

Em failed 9th grade 3 times.
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Albert Einstein failed math.

You two...do know who Einstein was...right?...

[MikeNUFC]

Em failed 9th grade 3 times.
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intelligence doesn't always mean booksmart or how good you are at exams etc. There are SO many different forms of intelligence, you can just say becuase he failed 9th grade he isnt intelligent.

Your response has been nullified due to spelling error.

Yeah, plus I wrote can, instead of can't. I'm out of this thread.

[DƎRDYPK]

Em failed 9th grade 3 times.
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Albert Einstein failed math.

You two...do know who Einstein was...right?...

TECH N9NE!

[Wic Kid]

Thats the best thing to do at the moment, Mike. Ima do the same.

Plus this "Anti-Stan" propaganda makes me sick. Once again, heh.

[James Deuce]

If he wasn't intelligent he wouldn't have an elevator in his house.

[OMEGA]

I don't think he's really that intelligent. Don't get me wrong, I Love Eminem.

SacJB, is that you?

[EminemBase]

do you really think there was any intelligence in his mind going "man I think we need some iambic pentameter here and maybe some classical examples of irony over here"

no, he just wrote it, he's not the Stephen Hawking of rap

That's nonsense, you can't create what he has by accident. He hasn't stumbled across the irony and character-play, he's not oblivious to what he's doing.

I didn't say he was the Stephen Hawking of rap. He's more like the Tarantino of rap.

But what he's done has been very intentional. Of course he's aware of the irony he's putting in place, it's blazingly obvious throughout The Marshall Mathers LP. Playing with the grey area.

I think it's absurd to say the man who's written what he has is not intelligent.

Irrespective of all of that, the way he chooses to phrase things, when there's so many other ways. The way he purposely avoids cliche' whenever possible or finds a totally unique spin to put on it. No un-intelligent person can do what he has or does.

"Stay away from me cuz' I'm dancing to quite a different drum beat" - That's a clever, poetic mind. He's not just coincidentally stumbling upon what he does. He's fully conscious of it and spends a lot of time crafting and shaping it.

[Emadyville]

he failed because he skipped, not because he didn't get it. lol

He admitted he failed every class except english, he said it in that fan thing, he didn't say because he skipped. And in say goodbye hollywood when he says why he could never be good at math.

So I think for the most part he doesn't understand most of the subjects he had in school, enough so to fail 3 times

[EminemBase]

he failed because he skipped, not because he didn't get it. lol

He admitted he failed every class except english, he said it in that fan thing, he didn't say because he skipped. And in say goodbye hollywood when he says why he could never be good at math.

So I think for the most part he doesn't understand most of the subjects he had in school, enough so to fail 3 times

That's not a sign of true intelligence anyway. No one test is and formal tests are certainly not a very good measure of real intellect. All they prove is that you can retain specific knowledge and spit it back out.

I also failed everything in school. Not because I'm not intelligent but because I paid no attention, I always knew I would work for myself so qualifications held no merit and were no use to me. I never considered them important for myself.

Similarly, from age 16 he had no intention of following a formal route. He was going to go all out with rap music. So we don't know that if he applied himself fully to those subjects he would of succeeded or not. But again, regardless, they're not true signs of intellect.

[Arrinef]

only intelligent people own on donkey kong

[Kez]

He's not intelligent by academic definition, but you couldn't make the music he makes without intelligence.

[Emadyville]

he failed because he skipped, not because he didn't get it. lol

He admitted he failed every class except english, he said it in that fan thing, he didn't say because he skipped. And in say goodbye hollywood when he says why he could never be good at math.

So I think for the most part he doesn't understand most of the subjects he had in school, enough so to fail 3 times

That's not a sign of true intelligence anyway. No one test is and formal tests are certainly not a very good measure of real intellect. All they prove is that you can retain specific knowledge and spit it back out.

I also failed everything in school. Not because I'm not intelligent but because I paid no attention, I always knew I would work for myself so qualifications held no merit and were no use to me. I never considered them important for myself.

Similarly, from age 16 he had no intention of following a formal route. He was going to go all out with rap music. So we don't know that if he applied himself fully to those subjects he would of succeeded or not. But again, regardless, they're not true signs of intellect.

No, I agree. For him though, I think he is intelligent with words and everything that goes into what he does, which I mean no one can disagree with. I also agree that he prolly didn't care much or put in effort, but most likely because he did so bad and didn't understand things. I think it more him not applying himself, I believe he could have graduated hs in 4 years.

[Arrinef]

only intelligent people own on donkey kong

Billy Mitchell and Steve Weiber are gods

and King Of Kong was a good documentary

i saw that the other on spike, pretty dope indeed

[EminemBase]

He's not intelligent by academic definition, but you couldn't make the music he makes without brainpower.

I disagree. I think he is intelligent by definition.

People assume intelligence = formal qualification. Intelligence just means you have the capacity to comprehend and reason to a high degree. Which he certainly does.

"But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste - We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is"

The way he does things like this. Compounds multiple viewpoints about himself or issues into small poetic lines. The way he seamlessly slips in and out of 1st and 3rd person, criticizes himself, ironically, the way he can just flow out effortless zeitgeist lyricism.

"If I could capture the rage of today's youth and swallow it, crush the glass with my bear hands and swallow it - And spit it back in the faces of you racists and hypocrites who think the same shit but don't say shit"

Beautiful metaphorical language. Used so effectively. Un-intelligent people cannot write like that.

[EminemBase]

No, I agree. For him though, I think he is intelligent with words and everything that goes into what he does, which I mean no one can disagree with. I also agree that he prolly didn't care much or put in effort, but most likely because he did so bad and didn't understand things. I think it more him not applying himself, I believe he could have graduated hs in 4 years.

Well yeah. I think people are just taking cliche' topics and subjects and thinking because he's not knowledgable on them that means he isn't intelligent.

You can see quite clearly, from one line of his lyricism that he's tremendously intelligent.

Anybody that can process ideas and re-create at the level he does is very very intelligent.

Being intelligent is about the way you think. Not just what you happen to know. The way you process information and reason with it. And he's been two steps ahead of society since day one. That's why on immediate impact he was misunderstood, like almost all modern geniuses.

It took society about three years just to catch up with him and agree he was a talented lyricist. At first they could only see the attitude and subversion. Took him winning an Oscar to go "oh okay, yeah maybe". Obviously not the intelligent of society. But the big bell-curve.