Eminem's Production Ethic's

[rahavan]

the classics that you listen 2 everyday and the classics songs that you think is better den relapse material is all produced by eminem and his production team.

eminem in his prime said this :

watch from 2:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSuPuIdQTQI

he says :

" Ive always PRODUCED or co produced my shit, thats only because most of the time ill write a rap first, and ill get an idea for how I want the beat to go, i always know how i want the beat to go, so whos better to do it then ME?
WHY WOULD I GET SOME ONE ELSE TO DO MY BEAT AND ONCE ITS DONE COME RAP OVER IT?"

That was em in 2002, were he was in his prime,he knew in his head what his morales were, in that time frame, even if eminem appeared on a verse, for instance, on a jadakiss;s album, on thesong
"welcome to dblock", he produced the track even though it wasnt for his album, this is what made em different from other artists that he had unique sounds and the beats that were made fitted the lyrics as well , if hes getting beats from jim johnsin or boi da or wteva, its just not gonna sound the same man

you guys can disagree or wteva, but if u look at the production credits on mmlp, eminem show, its clear why the tracks were so gr8.

discuss..

[dR3]

What's there to discuss? People change over time.

[Jens14]

Well, I like his own productions the best so I hope there are some tracks of his own on recovery. And about him having alot of producers on the album? I just hope he made good picks, if they're good beats and they fit the song it should be alright

[EminemBase]

Yeah I know Eminem is responsible for his best shit. I've always said that and quite a lot of people realize it, you're acting like this is a revelation.

I've always found it odd people laugh if you say Em is better producer than Dre but if you look at all of his best songs, Em is responsible for them. And he creates very memorable melodies: The Way I Am, Cleaning Out My Closet, 8 Mile Road etc.

But it's kind of odd how like... Well on that he says "The day that it's not better I don't wanna make music anymore, if I don't get better with every album" etc. And this was after The Eminem Show. And right after this, album wise, he made Encore.

Now, even at the time, he definitely couldn't of thought "Yeah Encore is BETTER than The Eminem Show". So odd like... How he can be thinking that one minute and so quickly drop his standards.

[EminemBase]

^ because he was high on drugs @ the time & he actually thought Encore was better. his brain wasn't functioning properly.

Lmao na I'm sorry but that's bull. I've been a coke head, done acid, I've abused many drugs to the point of nearly dying - Many times.

Only reason I'm saying that is that what I'm about to say is from a lot of experience - This bullshit people always say like 'oh he was ON drugs', no drug messes with your mind to the point you no longer have your full judgement when you're not on it UNLESS it's like heroin or just off an acid trip.

It's not like he was on it 24/7 and even if so, I've been addicted to sleeping pills, they sedate you and with heavy use they slow your reaction but they don't cloud your brain to the point you'd think something is brilliant that you'd normally think is shit. He just got lazy. But no drug would of magically made him think it was a better album lmao.

It was much more his depression from the drugs and the laziness that was the cause of the dip in material. People use drugs as an excuse, they also try use it as a plus-point for his earlier shit, so silly. He was probably feeling constantly sedated and couldn't be fucked to do any better but he wouldn't of been thinking "Yeah this is my best shit" without realizing it.

[EminemBase]

^ who knows... he definitely thought Encore was an evolution or he was taking his music in the right direction with it. otherwise why would he put it out? unless he's a complete hypocrite & that talk about artistic growth in each consecutive album was a crock.

Well it actually was an evolution in some senses. But in all effect he was just tying up the loose ends of TES with it.

So it's understandable that he may not of thought he outdid it even at the time.

It's not that all that talk had to be bullshit. But that was 2002. Think about it, all of the extra media and praise on TES, then he did 8 Mile, the 8 Mile soundtrack - the amazing tracks on that, then he produced Obie's debut, signed 50 and helped put him out...

When you add all that up, much more likely he just burned himself out. And he just put Encore out for what it was. But there's no way I believe he think he topped it even back then. You can even see in the live performances, how sick of it he is. Lip-syncing "Just Lose It", going through the motions.

[SliK]

Producers aren't stupid. You produce mainsteam BULLSHIT to rake in the dough for people like Soulja Boi and you produce your MASTERPIECE for people like Eminem, because you know it could be the greatest song of all time. I highly doubt Eminem has any shitty beats, he's true to hip-hop.

I just wish he'd spit over a Kanye beat, and give Kanye some creative control. Let him give Eminem a Let The Beat Build, Run This Town, etc.

[EminemBase]

^ Well I definitely wanna hear him and Kanye collab. Em said he likes Kanye a lot.

I think they could create something special.