Dr.Dre On Recovery

[Hiphopdane]

I said classic songs, not good songs.

Well it's down to personal opinions, I guess.

Lyrically I can't really see how anyone can blame Dre, he's just making the music. The thing is that Eminem to this day still refuses to move on from his dark ego and try something new. If Dre had to work with a guy like Common, who's one of the best lyricist out there, the production would be totally different. Dre should definitely challenge Em, but it also works the other way around.

[MattyBobbins]

I'll never understand why a lot of people complain about Dres beats or want less of them id be quite happy to hear more of them i think the Relapse beats were top notch i cant complain about any of them, i dont know what it is about his beats but theyre a lot different to anyone elses and i think it suits em perfectly but that maybe cos weve never really heard em behind anyone elses beats so hopefully the new producers wont disappoint

[RealSickLindley]

Dre does not "steal anything", he has his helpers like any producer and he artistically pushes Em along.. I prefer him to Em doing his own shit. Fine he's done some good ones, but only cos he saves a couple for his albums, cos his production elsewhere is POOR

[dR3]

I agree, he hasn't really produced a lot of Eminem songs that were hits.

[MikeNUFC]

I agree, he hasn't really produced a lot of Eminem songs that were hits.

Real Slim Shady, My Name Is, Without Me, Just Lose It, Guilty Conscience, Crack A Bottle and Mosh?

[dR3]

Okay, let me rephrase. Songs that are considered as classics.

[Jumbo]

anyway, i think lil wayne, cashis, 50 cent and dre will be on the same track, a kinda 3 headed monster

*5-headed monster

yeah

[EminemBase]

The Way I Am must be his best beat ever, imo anyway

Yeah probably. Either that or... I dunno, he's actually created a lot of great fucking beats. Also up there would be "Renegade", "Square Dance", "Soldier", "Lose Yourself" and "8 Mile Road".

Aw man and like "Cleanin' Out My Closet", the melodies are so ridiculously memorable and distinctive. Dre rarley creates beats this powerful IMO. He has occasional flashes like "Forgot About Dre" but he's mostly stale to me. Although his work with Em is often a lot better. Probably puts more effort in.

[Alaine]

The Way I Am must be his best beat ever, imo anyway

Yeah probably. Either that or... I dunno, he's actually created a lot of great fucking beats. Also up there would be "Renegade", "Square Dance", "Soldier", "Lose Yourself" and "8 Mile Road".

Aw man and like "Cleanin' Out My Closet", the melodies are so ridiculously memorable and distinctive. Dre rarley creates beats this powerful IMO. He has occasional flashes like "Forgot About Dre" but he's mostly stale to me. Although his work with Em is often a lot better. Probably puts more effort in.

yes Cleanin' Out My Closet is definitely one of his most memorable melody Lose Yourself, 8 Mile, Superman imo are honorable mentions as well, I like the original melody of Em's beats. And sometimes I can even play The way I am instrumental alone and enjoy it

[EminemBase]

The Way I Am must be his best beat ever, imo anyway

Yeah probably. Either that or... I dunno, he's actually created a lot of great fucking beats. Also up there would be "Renegade", "Square Dance", "Soldier", "Lose Yourself" and "8 Mile Road".

Aw man and like "Cleanin' Out My Closet", the melodies are so ridiculously memorable and distinctive. Dre rarley creates beats this powerful IMO. He has occasional flashes like "Forgot About Dre" but he's mostly stale to me. Although his work with Em is often a lot better. Probably puts more effort in.

yes Cleanin' Out My Closet is definitely one of his most memorable melody Lose Yourself, 8 Mile, Superman imo are honorable mentions as well, I like the original melody of Em's beats. And sometimes I can even play The way I am instrumental alone and enjoy it

Yeah that's exactly why I prefer his production so much more.

He rarely samples other tracks unless he's re-working the tone or creating something very new with it. It's precisely because of the fact he raps so melodically and shapes his beats around those melodies that they're so memorable and original.

Like his rapping, there's nothing like it. "The Way I Am" is so atmospheric.

[Emadyville]

^^^ All the reasons you two just said is why I hope Dre does a few beats for some interesting bangers, but that em works a lot with him on them or on his own, cause he does make some dope songs when he does it his way

[Hiphopdane]

It has nothing to do with the lack of samples. When making your own beats you get the exact melody/feeling you want to spit.

To me Eminem is a mediocre producer as 90% of his beats sound the same. He should definitely try something new with his drum sound and try working on more layers. His shit doesn't surprise me cus it's always something simple unlike world class producers like Just Blaze.

I don't hope he will be on Recovery as there is already a fair share of producers confirmed, plus there's some I rather have on the record.

Don't get me wrong. It's nos as if I think he's crap or anything but I don't think he's anything special at all.

[EminemBase]

It has nothing to do with the lack of samples. When making your own beats you get the exact melody/feeling you want to spit.

To me Eminem is a mediocre producer as 90% of his beats sound the same. He should definitely try something new with his drum sound and try working on more layers. His shit doesn't surprise me cus it's always something simple unlike world class producers like Just Blaze.

I don't hope he will be on Recovery as there is already a fair share of producers confirmed, plus there's some I rather have on the record.

Don't get me wrong. It's nos as if I think he's crap or anything but I don't think he's anything special at all.

Sound the same? What in the World are you listening to.

Almost every one of his beats is totally distinctive from the next. In terms of techniques he may use yeah but they all sound totally different.

How does "The Cross" sound like "No Apologies", or "Square Dance" like "Till I Collapse". He's created a widerange of beats. And it absolutely has to do with not sampling. He creates melodies from scratch and they're melodies from his head, often. So you get a very memorable, distinctive tune each time.

[Hiphopdane]

It has nothing to do with the lack of samples. When making your own beats you get the exact melody/feeling you want to spit.

To me Eminem is a mediocre producer as 90% of his beats sound the same. He should definitely try something new with his drum sound and try working on more layers. His shit doesn't surprise me cus it's always something simple unlike world class producers like Just Blaze.

I don't hope he will be on Recovery as there is already a fair share of producers confirmed, plus there's some I rather have on the record.

Don't get me wrong. It's nos as if I think he's crap or anything but I don't think he's anything special at all.

Sound the same? What in the World are you listening to.

Almost every one of his beats is totally distinctive from the next. In terms of techniques he may use yeah but they all sound totally different.

How does "The Cross" sound like "No Apologies", or "Square Dance" like "Till I Collapse". He's created a widerange of beats. And it absolutely has to do with not sampling. He creates melodies from scratch and they're melodies from his head, often. So you get a very memorable, distinctive tune each time.

Most of the time it's done with a heavy drum and a melody as a main layer* (always only very few layers). Apart from Lose yourself, the only class beat he has done is Like toy soldiers (which had a couple of samples). His sound is not innovative at all, you always know what you're going to get from him imo. I just read the wikipedia page for Detox a couple of hours ago (with sources); the ideas Dre has for Detox are just incredible. Could anyone seriuosly imagine Em thinking of symphony interpretings and live drums in his production?

Great producers are No.id, Dre, Quincy, Kanye west, large professor, Premier, Pete rock etc.

*Beautiful, Till I collapse, Square dance, The cross etc

[RapName]

It has nothing to do with the lack of samples. When making your own beats you get the exact melody/feeling you want to spit.

To me Eminem is a mediocre producer as 90% of his beats sound the same. He should definitely try something new with his drum sound and try working on more layers. His shit doesn't surprise me cus it's always something simple unlike world class producers like Just Blaze.

I don't hope he will be on Recovery as there is already a fair share of producers confirmed, plus there's some I rather have on the record.

Don't get me wrong. It's nos as if I think he's crap or anything but I don't think he's anything special at all.

Sound the same? What in the World are you listening to.

Almost every one of his beats is totally distinctive from the next. In terms of techniques he may use yeah but they all sound totally different.

How does "The Cross" sound like "No Apologies", or "Square Dance" like "Till I Collapse". He's created a widerange of beats. And it absolutely has to do with not sampling. He creates melodies from scratch and they're melodies from his head, often. So you get a very memorable, distinctive tune each time.

It doesn't happend a lot, but now you're wrong
Ems beats usually sound very similar and it's easy to point out an Em production. The melodies and all may be very different, but but his drum and bass-line is usually quite standard. I guess it's easier to hear if you're actually making beats for yourself.
Em beats often gives me a quite unique feeling as well, i bet im not the only one who gets that.