Eminem's lyrics have fallen way off post-Relapse

[slimsoxshady]

his rhyming sucked on Airplanes though.

how so? multis are still there if thats what you mean

anyone can rhyme about nothing and use complexity outta this world...but it's much harder to fit words together when you actually stick to a topic
rhyming should be the least of people's worries now...after all that unrhymed garbage he put out between Encore and Relapse (aside from a couple decent verse)

[goblue418]

Is everyone here a troll?

[MikeNUFC]

Refill was post-Relapse and it was amazing lyrically. So you're making this judgement from Em's three GUEST appearances. lol Don't be stupid.

Refill was made pre-Relapse actaully.

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

Maybe Em should retire, yeah?

[timeconsumer]

i hope he doesnt abandon the awesome flows of relapse to make annoying verses like airplanes, drop the world type flows but with personal lyrics.

[HereHere]

Is everyone here a troll?

Yes, even you.

[Berry]

Maybe Em should retire, yeah?

He can't win... Unless he makes a carbon copy of the Em show/mmlp.

Sometimes, I wonder why some of you guys still are fans if all you do is complain/disect everything he does. (I swear some of you guys all you listen to is Em, that's quite sad)

His lyrics haven't got worse, it depends on which theme or direction he takes. If he does a song inspired by horror flicks he's going to say some twisted shit. Yet cause you whiny bitches personally dislike the song... you say he's fallin off lyrically.

[DanWS]

Oh Jesus, another whiner after Em gave us 3 brilliant features since Relapse.

So we aint allowed to criticize his music at all without being called a "whiner"?, I'd rather listen and point out the slight negatives rather than be a happy clapper that will swallow anything like you

I like eminems current flow better than Relapse, but I don't agree with you trying to make others looks stupid by saying "I can show you even worse lyrics on Relapse" get a grip and allow people to have their opinion, all people do is discuss how it can maybe be better next time, I understand where people are comming from with "he does that, people moan, he does this, people moan" but people will ALWAYS moan, get over it, think of Em as your sports team, even if you get a good result and "win" you still need to talk about the performance (positives/negatives) to see what you can carry forward to the next game/song.

You can criticize but why do you always have to go nit-picking at every single little thing? Why can't you ever be happy with what he gives us? You don't agree with me making others look stupid, why not? If someone is saying stupid things then I have a right to make them look stupid, whether it hurts your feelings or not. And to be honest, I really don't think the fact that I'm willing to put forward evidence of Em's lyricism not falling since Relapse means that I'm trying to make the OP look stupid. How did you work that one out? Decent arguments require some sort of evidence, no? If the OP had pointed out and specified these 'awful' lyrics that he is talking about, then maybe I'd have accepted his opinion at least somewhat. But he didn't, which makes him look like he really hasn't thought about what he's said. I'm allowed to respond and be prepared to give evidence to back up my argument. If that offends you then tough. Not my problem.

[Duffy_hibs]

You can criticize but why do you always have to go nit-picking at every single little thing? Why can't you ever be happy with what he gives us? You don't agree with me making others look stupid, why not? If someone is saying stupid things then I have a right to make them look stupid, whether it hurts your feelings or not. And to be honest, I really don't think the fact that I'm willing to put forward evidence of Em's lyricism not falling since Relapse means that I'm trying to make the OP look stupid. How did you work that one out? Decent arguments require some sort of evidence, no? If the OP had pointed out and specified these 'awful' lyrics that he is talking about, then maybe I'd have accepted his opinion at least somewhat. But he didn't, which makes him look like he really hasn't thought about what he's said. I'm allowed to respond and be prepared to give evidence to back up my argument. If that offends you then tough. Not my problem.

I said in my post, I AM happy with what he gives us, but I like to examine it and point out positives and negatives I feel about the songs, it's a very normal thing to do, it happens with every rapper.
And don't flatter yourself you've not made anyone on here look stupid and if you did it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, showing off that you can recognize a couple of well written lines is no special feat, you could show a line from Relapse and someone could come back with one just as good from either of the 3 feature songs, it's not really a "decent argument" is it? It's all opinion and offering to swap lyrics from songs to proove that one is better is pointless.

so making out that your opinion is all mighty and completely right, whilst proclaiming you have some "amazing lines" to prove that you're right (which is what you're doing), doesn't offend me, just makes you look a little simple when it comes to discussing a song, thought I'd be nice and let you know.

[DanWS]

You can criticize but why do you always have to go nit-picking at every single little thing? Why can't you ever be happy with what he gives us? You don't agree with me making others look stupid, why not? If someone is saying stupid things then I have a right to make them look stupid, whether it hurts your feelings or not. And to be honest, I really don't think the fact that I'm willing to put forward evidence of Em's lyricism not falling since Relapse means that I'm trying to make the OP look stupid. How did you work that one out? Decent arguments require some sort of evidence, no? If the OP had pointed out and specified these 'awful' lyrics that he is talking about, then maybe I'd have accepted his opinion at least somewhat. But he didn't, which makes him look like he really hasn't thought about what he's said. I'm allowed to respond and be prepared to give evidence to back up my argument. If that offends you then tough. Not my problem.

I said in my post, I AM happy with what he gives us, but I like to examine it and point out positives and negatives I feel about the songs, it's a very normal thing to do, it happens with every rapper.
And don't flatter yourself you've not made anyone on here look stupid and if you did it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, showing off that you can recognize a couple of well written lines is no special feat, you could show a line from Relapse and someone could come back with one just as good from either of the 3 feature songs, it's not really a "decent argument" is it? It's all opinion and offering to swap lyrics from songs to proove that one is better is pointless.

so making out that your opinion is all mighty and completely right, whilst proclaiming you have some "amazing lines" to proove that you're right (which is what you're doing), doesn't offend me, just makes you look a little simple when it comes to discussing a song, thought I'd be nice and let you know.

You suggested I'm trying to make someone look stupid, so when I ask why I cant, your response is 'don't flatter yourself'...... ooooook.

Now if you cared to read my post properly, you'd see that I never claimed it was any "special feat" to back up my point with evidence. So please do not suggest that I did. I said that I'd be willing to put forward some lines to substantiate my argument, which is a very reasonable thing to do, rather than just spouting off what I believe without anything to back it up. And yes, someone could come back with decent lines from Relapse, but THAT IS NOT THE POINT. The point I'm making is that he hasn't fallen lyrically, and by highlighting that opinion by providing examples I'd be able to at least bring plausibility to my argument. I'M not the one saying Em's Relapse lyrics were awful, it was the OP who is saying that his latest lyrics are. I'm not trying to suggest Relapse lyrics are sub-par (in fact I think they were very good as a whole), but what I did originally suggest is that I could quite easily provide examples of some of what I believe to be sub-par lyrics he used in Relapse to show that his newest lyrics are not sub-par in comparison. Even fairer than that would be to just post some of the lyrics from his three latest verses to show that he hasn't fallen lyrically. All I'm doing is defending his latest lyrics, not attacking his Relapse lyrics, so I'd appreciate it if you can get that idea out of your head.

And once again you are putting words into my mouth' by suggesting that I believe that my opinion is "all mighty and completely right". Please stop doing that. It really does devalue your already primitive argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, all I did was offer to back it up with evidence.

[DƎRDYPK]

yall tripping

[goblue418]

Is everyone here a troll?

Yes, even you.

[Duffy_hibs]

Now if you cared to read my post properly, you'd see that I never claimed it was any "special feat" to back up my point with evidence. So please do not suggest that I did. I said that I'd be willing to put forward some lines to substantiate my argument, which is a very reasonable thing to do, rather than just spouting off what I believe without anything to back it up. And yes, someone could come back with decent lines from Relapse, but THAT IS NOT THE POINT. The point I'm making is that he hasn't fallen lyrically, and by highlighting that opinion by providing examples I'd be able to at least bring plausibility to my argument. I'M not the one saying Em's Relapse lyrics were awful, it was the OP who is saying that his latest lyrics are. I'm not trying to suggest Relapse lyrics are sub-par (in fact I think they were very good as a whole), but what I did originally suggest is that I could quite easily provide examples of some of what I believe to be sub-par lyrics he used in Relapse to show that his newest lyrics are not sub-par in comparison. Even fairer than that would be to just post some of the lyrics from his three latest verses to show that he hasn't fallen lyrically. All I'm doing is defending his latest lyrics, not attacking his Relapse lyrics, so I'd appreciate it if you can get that idea out of your head.
And once again you are putting words into my mouth' by suggesting that I believe that my opinion is "all mighty and completely right". Please stop doing that. It really does devalue your already primitive argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, all I did was offer to back it up with evidence.

I must have misread your post, I originally challenged the way you where complaining about the "nit picking" of recent songs, my whole point is everyone is allowed to nit pick, it's what makes rap intresting, you where offering bad relapse lyrics for bad recent lyrics, I then questioned the sort of argument you would attract with a lyrical swap, now for some reason your defending your feelings about relapse, when all I'm trying to say is let people critizcize, if we didn't you would have a whole thread full of no debate, either way I think Ems getting better and better at the moment but I still want to hear why people might not be finding his new stuff so great.

[DanWS]

Now if you cared to read my post properly, you'd see that I never claimed it was any "special feat" to back up my point with evidence. So please do not suggest that I did. I said that I'd be willing to put forward some lines to substantiate my argument, which is a very reasonable thing to do, rather than just spouting off what I believe without anything to back it up. And yes, someone could come back with decent lines from Relapse, but THAT IS NOT THE POINT. The point I'm making is that he hasn't fallen lyrically, and by highlighting that opinion by providing examples I'd be able to at least bring plausibility to my argument. I'M not the one saying Em's Relapse lyrics were awful, it was the OP who is saying that his latest lyrics are. I'm not trying to suggest Relapse lyrics are sub-par (in fact I think they were very good as a whole), but what I did originally suggest is that I could quite easily provide examples of some of what I believe to be sub-par lyrics he used in Relapse to show that his newest lyrics are not sub-par in comparison. Even fairer than that would be to just post some of the lyrics from his three latest verses to show that he hasn't fallen lyrically. All I'm doing is defending his latest lyrics, not attacking his Relapse lyrics, so I'd appreciate it if you can get that idea out of your head.
And once again you are putting words into my mouth' by suggesting that I believe that my opinion is "all mighty and completely right". Please stop doing that. It really does devalue your already primitive argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, all I did was offer to back it up with evidence.

I must have misread your post, I originally challenged the way you where complaining about the "nit picking" of recent songs, my whole point is everyone is allowed to nit pick, it's what makes rap intresting, you where offering bad relapse lyrics for bad recent lyrics, I then questioned the sort of argument you would attract with a lyrical swap, now for some reason your defending your feelings about relapse, when all I'm trying to say is let people critizcize, if we didn't you would have a whole thread full of no debate, either way I think Ems getting better and better at the moment but I still want to hear why people might not be finding his new stuff so great.

Sure, everyone is allowed to nitpick but all the same it does get annoying when certain people always seem to find SOMETHING negative to focus on. And I think that even the biggest critic could concede that the OP went overboard saying Em has been "all over the place" and "awful". I mean come on, that might be his opinion, but you have to admit when the VAST MAJORITY of us believe that he has spit some FANTASTIC stuff lately, those comments are going to be irritating. That doesn't mean he can't give his opinion, but when people disagree strongly with something then they're gonna reject those statements quite fiercely (and rightly so). And sure, people can criticize but what I'm saying is when you do, offer some substance to back your opinions up, otherwise people aren't gonna be able to see your point; whereas if you provide some evidence then at least people might be able to study it and be like "hmmm yea ok, well I still don't really agree BUT I can see where he/she is coming from there."

[slimsoxshady]

Shady still trying to get above ground he fell off so far