Relapse Was A Classic

[D_Block313]

I did not like Relapse. His accent's and fast rapid flow ruined it for me. Underground was ok but it definitely was no Criminal. He just seemed to force a lot of crap on it.

I'd say Not Afraid sounds far more forced than Relapse. Relapse didnt sound forced at all to me.

I was talking about that Underground song, where he tries to make it like Criminal. But I don't agree with Not Afraid sounding forced at all. When I heard him rapping I honestly thought it was a bonus track from The Eminem Show.

[Alaine]

Relapse sounds awkward as hell to me, like he was gonna do Shady but forgot how Shady was, really painful to listen to. I can tell he's honest in tracks like Beautiful, Deja Vu, Not Afraid, it's just something you feel, even it's cheesy.

[D_Block313]

Honestly If all of Eminem's songs on Relapse were like CWYWF and My Darling than it would be a great album.

[kevinh]

i can make a better album than relapse

well i cant it was a OK album
but the worst eminem album IMO!

[Alaine]

I think it's obvious people who like Relapse are people who into multi & stuff (lyricism) aka technical side of rap. I don't like him rapping like a robot, even with crazy multis .

[D_Block313]

I think it's obvious people who like Relapse are people who into multi & stuff (lyricism) aka technical side of rap. I don't like him rapping like a robot, even with crazy multis .

Same here.

[Kez]

[MikeNUFC]

I think it's obvious people who like Relapse are people who into multi & stuff (lyricism) aka technical side of rap. I don't like him rapping like a robot, even with crazy multis .

It's not just that, though. It's something different. The concept of taking the role of a serial killer was unique. Yes, the flow and the multis were incredible but it was the idea behind it that struck me. And songs like My Mom and Deja Vu touch into his personal side (My Mom with humour, Deja Vu with incredible honesty) and still have great technical abilities.

Songs like Not Afraid are nothing new and oh so boring.

Rapping like a robot? Hardly, he used tons of different voices, flows, rhyme techniques and deliveries. Robots sound the same and are monotonous. He sounded nothing like a robot.

[EminemBase]

Relapse sounds awkward as hell to me, like he was gonna do Shady but forgot how Shady was, really painful to listen to. I can tell he's honest in tracks like Beautiful, Deja Vu, Not Afraid, it's just something you feel, even it's cheesy.

I don't think it's awkward at all. It's the opposite, it's tailored.

"Beautiful" is awkward. He's dragging words out, he's sluggish, he's forcing emotional elements out of himself. A lot of people just cannot get the fact that Relapse is totally in character. And also cannot get the fact that it's not supposed to be vintage Slim Shady. Slim Shady has now just become a metaphor for evil and he's just using that label as it's fitting and recognized.

But he's basically just a demented serial killer. But the level of craftsmanship to it, the twisted humour, the poetic flair. It's totally engrossing and I'd listen to "Stay Wide Awake" over "Beautiful" any day.

Best summation of Relapse I've ever seen is this line:
Relapse's real resonance comes from the fragile, harrowing genius that lies behind that painted-on grin.

That's the perfect attribute to emphasize. Painted on grin, absolutely. Relapse is art, not reality and shouldn't be confused for it. A lot of people (since day one, with Em) cannot grasp the fact he's creating art out of music and it's escapism. Fact that the flows are robotic is essential to its appeal, he's a twisted narrator weaving himself in and out of situations with descriptive glee. Relapse is a monster of an album. Not a classic but very very good.

[Kez]

Relapse sounds awkward as hell to me, like he was gonna do Shady but forgot how Shady was, really painful to listen to. I can tell he's honest in tracks like Beautiful, Deja Vu, Not Afraid, it's just something you feel, even it's cheesy.

I don't think it's awkward at all. It's the opposite, it's tailored.

"Beautiful" is awkward. He's dragging words out, he's sluggish, he's forcing emotional elements out of himself. A lot of people just cannot get the fact that Relapse is totally in character. And also cannot get the fact that it's not supposed to be vintage Slim Shady. Slim Shady has now just become a metaphor for evil and he's just using that label as it's fitting and recognized.

But he's basically just a demented serial killer. But the level of craftsmanship to it, the twisted humour, the poetic flair. It's totally engrossing and I'd listen to "Stay Wide Awake" over "Beautiful" any day.

Best summation of Relapse I've ever seen is this line:
Relapse's real resonance comes from the fragile, harrowing genius that lies behind that painted-on grin.

That's the perfect attribute to emphasize. Painted on grin, absolutely. Relapse is art, not reality and shouldn't be confused for it. A lot of people (since day one, with Em) cannot grasp the fact he's creating art out of music and it's escapism. Fact that the flows are robotic is essential to its appeal, he's a twisted narrator weaving himself in and out of situations with descriptive glee. Relapse is a monster of an album. Not a classic but very very good.

I don't care, i still found it boring.

Only tracks i really liked on Relapse, and i mean liked as in i got into them (cause as he says technically it's superb) were the likes of My Mom, Insane, Deja Vu and Elevator. I'd respect it more if he had done the entire album in character, but Deja Vu and Beautiful really kind of fucked up the narrative he had going, since he weaves Hailie's name into it in Deja Vu and therefore you're supposed to assume he goes out in the night to kill people and wanks to Hannah Montana while looking after his child? Nah it just didn't properly do it for me.

[Alaine]

@Embase I totally respect people who like Relapse, but it's how I feel and you can't say my feelings are wrong.

[dark456]

man this gif is more intresting then this whole thread ... relapse was not a classic ... great album but not a classic..

[Hadez]

Relapse was great. people were just a bunch of bitchy bitches about the accent. why does something like that bother you people that much? Relapse had the most amazing creativity in the lyrics, especially with the rhymes.

am i saying i'm upset that he won't do another Relapse? no, i'm glad he's done cuz like somebody said i can just listen to Relapse when i feel like hearing something like that. but on the same token, i don't want a bunch of dumbed down songs because a bunch of whining bitches decided an emotional Mother Goose rhyme was the way to go.

why does he have to sacrifice lyrical skill for emotional content? but with all that being said, i do like his new song. it has it's skillful moments and the parts that are really emotional i feel like he means them, which is nice. but it's good for this song. not every song should be this simple.

[EminemBase]

Relapse sounds awkward as hell to me, like he was gonna do Shady but forgot how Shady was, really painful to listen to. I can tell he's honest in tracks like Beautiful, Deja Vu, Not Afraid, it's just something you feel, even it's cheesy.

I don't think it's awkward at all. It's the opposite, it's tailored.

"Beautiful" is awkward. He's dragging words out, he's sluggish, he's forcing emotional elements out of himself. A lot of people just cannot get the fact that Relapse is totally in character. And also cannot get the fact that it's not supposed to be vintage Slim Shady. Slim Shady has now just become a metaphor for evil and he's just using that label as it's fitting and recognized.

But he's basically just a demented serial killer. But the level of craftsmanship to it, the twisted humour, the poetic flair. It's totally engrossing and I'd listen to "Stay Wide Awake" over "Beautiful" any day.

Best summation of Relapse I've ever seen is this line:
Relapse's real resonance comes from the fragile, harrowing genius that lies behind that painted-on grin.

That's the perfect attribute to emphasize. Painted on grin, absolutely. Relapse is art, not reality and shouldn't be confused for it. A lot of people (since day one, with Em) cannot grasp the fact he's creating art out of music and it's escapism. Fact that the flows are robotic is essential to its appeal, he's a twisted narrator weaving himself in and out of situations with descriptive glee. Relapse is a monster of an album. Not a classic but very very good.

I don't care, i still found it boring.

Only tracks i really liked on Relapse, and i mean liked as in i got into them (cause as he says technically it's superb) were the likes of My Mom, Insane, Deja Vu and Elevator. I'd respect it more if he had done the entire album in character, but Deja Vu and Beautiful really kind of fucked up the narrative he had going, since he weaves Hailie's name into it in Deja Vu and therefore you're supposed to assume he goes out in the night to kill people and wanks to Hannah Montana while looking after his child? Nah it just didn't properly do it for me.

Yes that's what I mean. His personal injections into this are the missteps of this album not the serial killing.

Had he ditched the Paul skit and kept the entire album run through in absolute character it could of been a classic. CAB fucks it up also.

"Beautiful" is a good track but should not of been on the album. Total misfit.

[electroencephalogram]

I just listened to Relapse again and yes I agree that it's classic. I listened to each song over 100 times. I'm gonna miss the relapse era but I'm also glad there's no relapse 2.

Looking back a few years from now, I don't think it will leave a bad mark on his legacy, it will just be that weird album that he spazed on. Also I actually started to like the accent a lot, and I think it makes the album even more demented. I think people don't like the accent not because it sounds weird, but because it's weird to do.

Relapse is all in one.