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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby stella222 » May 12th, '10, 14:28

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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby S.T.A.N. » May 12th, '10, 14:33

stella222 wrote:^ Is it Bradinem in your avi?


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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby Alaine » May 12th, '10, 14:47

14Shots wrote:you have zero clue wtf you are talking about.

lol at eminem going broke if he went indie.

TONS of rappers with 5% of eminems net worth put out albums independently without going broke.

seriously i cant get over how stupid that statement is. eminem would make more money if he went indie, if you think otherwise you are retarded.

i doubt he will ever go indie though because he probably feels loyal to interscope and doesnt want any more responsibility.

LMAO YOU have no clue what you're talking 'bout, or you really don't know that Em is the boss of Shady records? lol Em would have to pay for his ARTISTS (D12, cashis, Slaughterhouse) by his own money. It's not about him alone because he has a label to carry on his shoulder. What's so hard to figure out here? :facepalm2

stella222 wrote:Do you think Kesha's current single is dying? Because she's been decreasing way faster than NA.

This is the radio chart peak statistic of Eminem's previous singles. Nothing there indicates this list contains the singles from two diamond records. It's easy to say Interscope does everything wrong but nothing change the fact Eminem, Lady Gaga and BEP are all Interscope's artists. Who knows how would they ended if they weren't on Interscope.

LEAD ARTIST CHR PEAKS:

My Name Is #29
The Real Slim Shady #15
Stan #31
Without Me #1
Cleanin' Out My Closet #7
Halie's Song #50
Lose Yourself #1 (6 weeks)
Superman #10
Sing For The Moment #5
Just Lose It #5
Encore #20
Mockingbird #7
Like Toy Soldiers #24
Ass Like That #47
When I'm Gone #13
Shake That #13
Crack A Bottle #20
We Made You #23
Beautiful #36
Forever #21

GUEST ARTIST CHR PEAKS:

Forgot About Dre #30
Welcome 2 Detroit #37
Smack That #4

I think it's obvious that Gaga, BEP make super duper friendly radio music, you know, music that made for radio play & for the masses, they have no problem to make radio hits at all :confusion:

And if this was early 2000s I probably wouldn't have worried that much about radio since MTV was still relevant that time & basically Em got TRL on lock, but now other than radio, where do you think casual listeners gonna hear new Em's single at?

and yes, Kesha's single is dying digitally at this point, but the different is you hear her songs on radio all the time, not really the case with Em.
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby slim-topic » May 12th, '10, 15:06

Not Afraid :

#16 in Australia singles charts.

#8 New Zeland singles chart.
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby Alaine » May 12th, '10, 15:14

Norway Singles Top 20: #3
Portugal Singles Top 50 : #37
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby professor » May 12th, '10, 15:17

doesnt matter if you get in the top 10, its the longevity a song can stay in the top 10. Id rather NA be in the top 20 for 10 weeks than be number 1 and never heard of again
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby Alaine » May 12th, '10, 15:23

professor wrote:doesnt matter if you get in the top 10, its the longevity a song can stay in the top 10. Id rather NA be in the top 20 for 10 weeks than be number 1 and never heard of again

:y: same, longevity>>>> peak high then disappear (ala Crack a bottle)
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby JamesTaylor » May 12th, '10, 15:48

Lello18 wrote:Australia (ARIA): #16
Belgian Singles (Flanders): #28
Belgian Singles (Wallonia): #28
Dutch Singles Chart: #36
New Zealand (RIANZ): #8

These are just peak positions not sure about current ones


It's probably a good thing that theres some room upfront for Not Afraid to gain some places and spend some time on the charts. These nations dont take iTunes into account? Because surely it would be number one in NZ or Australia otherwise.
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby stella222 » May 12th, '10, 15:59

Alaine wrote:I think it's obvious that Gaga, BEP make super duper friendly radio music, you know, music that made for radio play & for the masses, they have no problem to make radio hits at all :confusion:

And if this was early 2000s I probably wouldn't have worried that much about radio since MTV was still relevant that time & basically Em got TRL on lock, but now other than radio, where do you think casual listeners gonna hear new Em's single at?

and yes, Kesha's single is dying digitally at this point, but the different is you hear her songs on radio all the time, not really the case with Em.


I think a casual listener can listen to it on the Internet. I personally don’t listen to radios but I know the songs from youtube, facebook, forums, blogs, gossip sites etc. And even if I listen to a song somewhere it doesn’t make me to go out and buy the album. I only buy a CD if I’m a huge fan and I want to support the artist personally.

I think people did find out about NA if it could reach the top spots on iTunes charts and Amazon so fast. Eminem could care less if some old lady or Justin Bieber young fan will hear him on the radio. They would never buy his CD anyway. His main task should be making the music that can appeal to the fan base he has created over the years. These people know who he is. Don’t forget their full purchasing potential made him the best selling artists of them decade. Even a fragment of this potential can bring him on the top in this digital era. All he has to do is impress at least some of these people so they will recall why they became his fans.

Look at Flo-rida. He broke the iTunes record, had a huge radio and his album still flopped. B.o.B has two huge radio hits out there and his album sold only 35000 records in the second week. Besides, radio plays a certain type of music. If Eminem made this type of a song we can assume he’d be all over the radio but I would bet money his fans would turn their backs on him for selling out. His album would flop and he’d be just another product whose existence can end with the next radio single.
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby Mikey1990 » May 12th, '10, 16:06

the internet >>>> radio
everybody is on the internet now
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby NextEpisode » May 12th, '10, 16:18

JamesTaylor wrote:
Lello18 wrote:Australia (ARIA): #16
Belgian Singles (Flanders): #28
Belgian Singles (Wallonia): #28
Dutch Singles Chart: #36
New Zealand (RIANZ): #8

These are just peak positions not sure about current ones


It's probably a good thing that theres some room upfront for Not Afraid to gain some places and spend some time on the charts. These nations dont take iTunes into account? Because surely it would be number one in NZ or Australia otherwise.


Not Afraid was released on iTunes May 3 (Monday last week) - several countries begin their "chart week" in the middle of the week (like wednesday-tuesday or friday-thrusday etc) - so in these countries, only the sales from the first 2/3 days were included - thats why NA will have low peaks in some countries the first week, then in the second week it will peak higher. Of course, some countries also include Airplay, that's a big minus for Em. Also, all countries except Japan include sales from iTunes in their charts.

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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby 14Shots » May 12th, '10, 16:21

Alaine wrote:
14Shots wrote:you have zero clue wtf you are talking about.

lol at eminem going broke if he went indie.

TONS of rappers with 5% of eminems net worth put out albums independently without going broke.

seriously i cant get over how stupid that statement is. eminem would make more money if he went indie, if you think otherwise you are retarded.

i doubt he will ever go indie though because he probably feels loyal to interscope and doesnt want any more responsibility.

LMAO YOU have no clue what you're talking 'bout, or you really don't know that Em is the boss of Shady records? lol Em would have to pay for his ARTISTS (D12, cashis, Slaughterhouse) by his own money. It's not about him alone because he has a label to carry on his shoulder. What's so hard to figure out here? :facepalm2



i read your reply and genuinely thought you were mentally retarded. then i realized you are a female. that explains it.

you do realize that even though eminem would have to pay to promote his own artists, it would MORE than be made up by him getting a MUCH larger share of the profits right?

you do realize artists like Raekwon, Tech N9ne etc. (who arent even in the same atmosphere as eminem when it comes to net worth and whose CD's sell MUCH less) do this and make profit right?

you realize that eminem is worth in excess of 100 million dollars right?

i cant believe you actually think eminem could lose $100,000,000 and be broke if he decided to go indie.
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby IrishShady » May 12th, '10, 16:28

gahhh anyone no wen its out in ireland???? bahaha i got it onto my fone 5 mins after it leaked :8) now my entire school year has it :y: :y: :y: EMINEM FTW!!! :worship: :worship:
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Re: Not Afraid No Longer Number 1 On Itunes

Postby Alaine » May 12th, '10, 16:31

stella222 wrote:I think a casual listener can listen to it on the Internet. I personally don’t listen to radios but I know the songs from youtube, facebook, forums, blogs, gossip sites etc. And even if I listen to a song somewhere it doesn’t make me to go out and buy the album. I only buy a CD if I’m a huge fan and I want to support the artist personally.

I think people did find out about NA if it could reach the top spots on iTunes charts and Amazon so fast. Eminem could care less if some old lady or Justin Bieber young fan will hear him on the radio. They would never buy his CD anyway. His main task should be making the music that can appeal to the fan base he has created over the years. These people know who he is. Don’t forget their full purchasing potential made him the best selling artists of them decade. Even a fragment of this potential can bring him on the top in this digital era. All he has to do is impress at least some of these people so they will recall why they became his fans.

Look at Flo-rida. He broke the iTunes record, had a huge radio and his album still flopped. B.o.B has two huge radio hits out there and his album sold only 35000 records in the second week. Besides, radio plays a certain type of music. If Eminem made this type of a song we can assume he’d be all over the radio but I would bet money his fans would turn their backs on him for selling out. His album would flop and he’d be just another product whose existence can end with the next radio single.
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the problem is, if this was the album after TES, he'd have no problem if mainstream media support him or not, but this is the album after 2 in-the-row disappointment (Encore & Relapse), he hasn't have a signature song in forever. He has lots of fans, YES, but a lot of them either thought he fell off long time ago or don't even know he has new stuff out. He needs hit to mark his "comeback", something that when people look back they'll have to mention it. It's not like because people bought his old albums they'll have to buy his new ones as well. A lot of people haven't caught him on the radar since his comeback.

also, if he managed to stay on hot100 top 10 for a long time, there would be no problem, but if he's only #1 for 1 week then fall off the face of the earth then nobody would even remember it was a #1 (see CAB). Longevity>>>>

about Florida & b.o.b, they have very low first week sale cuz they don't have a fanbase, but their hits gonna keep them on the chart for a long ass time. I mean Florida sold like 50k first week but he continued to sell constantly over 500k last year, while Em opened HUGE first week but declined fast & disappear off the chart in no time. See BEP for another example, open with 300k first week but already surpassed Em in sale. Again Longevity>>>

NA is great, a 9/10 from me personally but I always said t's not really first single material since it's not upbeat enough, I'd label it as a "mid-tempo ballad" actually.

14Shots wrote:i read your reply and genuinely thought you were mentally retarded. then i realized you are a female. that explains it.

you do realize that even though eminem would have to pay to promote his own artists, it would MORE than be made up by him getting a MUCH larger share of the profits right?

you do realize artists like Raekwon, Tech N9ne etc. (who arent even in the same atmosphere as eminem when it comes to net worth and whose CD's sell MUCH less) do this and make profit right?

you realize that eminem is worth in excess of 100 million dollars right?

i cant believe you actually think eminem could lose $100,000,000 and be broke if he decided to go indie.

what? Raekwon & Tech N9ne pay for the whole label now? :unsure: I already said if's not just about him & himself, it's about the whole label going indie. He can & will be fine if he's ALONE, but he's not. And lol if you think d12, cashis, SH gonna make him ANY profit that more than the promo money. Seriously :sweating: I did exaggerated the "broke" part though, more like it's gonna do him worse than better.
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