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Was Hitler evil ?

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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Myszon » May 10th, '10, 21:06

McMaybe wrote:This is possibly the dumbest thread I have read since my triumphant return. No wonder people keep messaging me "The website is going down hill", "Fix the crappy site". What the fuck is wrong with you people? Hitler was not only an evil, manipulative leader who suffered from extreme personality disorders, depravity and many other mental illnesses, he was also one of the worst war leaders of all time. Hitlers power came from the fact that he would have any person that disagreed-killed. Germans, Polish, French, Irish, it made no difference. He was a cold, calculating man with very little tactical ability. Was he smart? Yes. Was he a genius in the way he developed technological prowess from nothing? Yes. Could he have ruled the world? No. He wasn't a powerful man, and he lacked a powerful army. You people are forgetting that Hitler began his plans over 8 years before the war began. He had an edge, that's all.




hyh, I cannot agree wit all you said.. maybe cause im deeply in 2nd ww history but.. yeah you're right xD

<and that's how McMaybe finished this thread xD >
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Knight-ofthe-Pen » May 10th, '10, 21:28

I mostly agree with McMaybe

but the really important question for me is: is it really neccessary to stil debate this question? are we still asking this? he's dead since 60 years now, the war's over and Germany has still the payback (eg carrying for old people and ill old people, difference between west and east, image in the rest of the world)

I mean, I'm 20 years old, I never felt any results from the war personally
'til I wanted to do an student exchange to scotland. didn't take place cause we could've been nazis (who the fuck really thinks that?!)
'til my Dad told me his father was a british soldier left back from the war and the seperation, who went back to Britain when my Dad was a kid (I never got to know any of my (great-)grandparents)
'til I learned in school how bad we Germans are and how shameful it is to be born here
'til I learned in school I can never be proud of the culture I was raised with
'til I realised we are calibrated to see only evil and bad things, if anything good is told about Germany, and that we have to dismiss it instantly
'til I was bored to learn every semester about WWII again and again and again - and only all the bad things that happens. Hitler was one of many many people who had the fantasy of an unified Germany (as before that never took place, there were just little territorial kingdoms) - he just went crazy

I mean, we even cencored our own national anthem because it could be missunderstood because of that was the nazis did
it was just written from someone who thought, the German culture should have its own place in European life/culture. from the 18th century 'german' men, intelectuells and other ones had the thought, that there is a German culture and that we should care and, the tried to emancipate the idea of an unified Germany because they were sick to search for the role models in France or England or in ancient cultures

Hitler was just someone who overdid this idea and I'm sick of debating if he was evil or not
we all know the results and what damage he and his fellowers caused - what difference does it make if we state Hitler as "evil" or not? does that change any thing?

no, it does not
he influenced History and he still influences the lifes of people and as long as there are still idiot asking stupid questions like that, this chapter will never be closed

I'm waiting that the world closes this chapter finally.
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Myszon » May 10th, '10, 21:34

Knight-ofthe-Pen wrote:I mostly agree with McMaybe

but the really important question for me is: is it really neccessary to stil debate this question? are we still asking this? he's dead since 60 years now, the war's over and Germany has still the payback (eg carrying for old people and ill old people, difference between west and east, image in the rest of the world)

I mean, I'm 20 years old, I never felt any results from the war personally
'til I wanted to do an student exchange to scotland. didn't take place cause we could've been nazis (who the fuck really thinks that?!)
'til my Dad told me his father was a british soldier left back from the war and the seperation, who went back to Britain when my Dad was a kid (I never got to know any of my (great-)grandparents)
'til I learned in school how bad we Germans are and how shameful it is to be born here
'til I learned in school I can never be proud of the culture I was raised with
'til I realised we are calibrated to see only evil and bad things, if anything good is told about Germany, and that we have to dismiss it instantly
'til I was bored to learn every semester about WWII again and again and again - and only all the bad things that happens. Hitler was one of many many people who had the fantasy of an unified Germany (as before that never took place, there were just little territorial kingdoms) - he just went crazy

I mean, we even cencored our own national anthem because it could be missunderstood because of that was the nazis did
it was just written from someone who thought, the German culture should have its own place in European life/culture. from the 18th century 'german' men, intelectuells and other ones had the thought, that there is a German culture and that we should care and, the tried to emancipate the idea of an unified Germany because they were sick to search for the role models in France or England or in ancient cultures

Hitler was just someone who overdid this idea and I'm sick of debating if he was evil or not
we all know the results and what damage he and his fellowers caused - what difference does it make if we state Hitler as "evil" or not? does that change any thing?

no, it does not
he influenced History and he still influences the lifes of people and as long as there are still idiot asking stupid questions like that, this chapter will never be closed

I'm waiting that the world closes this chapter finally.



finally!! someone I can agree with in 100%!! Thank you! Thank Thank Thank you!
and well, it's sadly.. but.. world will never close this chapter. well. there's also difference between forgeting and closing chapter. we SHOULD close this chapter, but be SHOULDN'T forgot about what happened, to <if that will ever again happen> not repeat this mistake, and to stop people who'd try to repeat Hitler's <or other man> actions
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby MISSChievous » May 11th, '10, 20:54

:facepalm2 SMH.
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby emzee-frenzy » May 12th, '10, 04:27

No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Myszon » May 12th, '10, 05:57

emzee-frenzy wrote:No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.




bulllllllll-shiiiiiitttttt !!

most of soldiers from Wehrmaht, were against Hitler, and his sick ideas but <as I said earlier> they had to choose "they fight for Hitler, or their family with them will die"
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Shadysapathy » May 12th, '10, 07:57

emzee-frenzy wrote:No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.


thats true all germans loved him...how can a whole country be so stupid???? :facepalm
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby SajN » May 12th, '10, 08:01

Shadysapathy wrote:
emzee-frenzy wrote:No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.


thats true all germans loved him...how can a whole country be so stupid???? :facepalm

Of course not all germans loved him.
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Myszon » May 12th, '10, 14:13

Shadysapathy wrote:
emzee-frenzy wrote:No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.


thats true all germans loved him...how can a whole country be so stupid???? :facepalm




again.. BUUUULLLLL SHIIIIITTTT!!

C'mon man.. as i told probably twice... maybe 70% <but im sure less> loved him. but what with the rest? they HAD (!!!!!) to love him. well they were just actin like they love him
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Emadyville » May 15th, '10, 21:21

Shadysapathy wrote:
emzee-frenzy wrote:No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.


thats true all germans loved him...how can a whole country be so stupid???? :facepalm



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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby ShaBruv » May 15th, '10, 23:26

Emadyville wrote:
Shadysapathy wrote:
emzee-frenzy wrote:No, Hitler wasn't evil, he was crazy. He obviously had a mental disease, but it's very wrong to think that HITLER ONLY, by his own unique will killed those people. The germans were all together with him, heart and soul, his chair had been prepared way before him, and he was waited, and he came. No offence to any german hear, i like germans and i am also learning the language all by myself, but i'm just saying it the way it was.


thats true all germans loved him...how can a whole country be so stupid???? :facepalm



Fear is not love, but I can see how easy it is to confuse the two :coffee:


i bet half the germans didnt even know the sick things he was doing to the jews
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Splitz » May 16th, '10, 06:19

Hitler was never evil. Everything he did was good, right?
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Myszon » May 16th, '10, 07:54

ShaBruv wrote:
i bet half the germans didnt even know the sick things he was doing to the jews



Man, more, more than half of Germs didnt know.
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby Eminem1976 » May 16th, '10, 08:07

wow!! gotta award another 'stupid fucking post' award. :facepalm
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Re: Was Hitler evil ?

Postby DrunkenDeath » May 16th, '10, 17:13

Eminem1976 wrote:wow!! gotta reward another 'stupid fucking post' award. :facepalm


fixed?
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