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Postby rep2death » May 29th, '10, 07:17

..at how many of u guys are dying to have this thing leak already....are u serious!?

why the fuck wuld u want this shit to leak???

sure it means u get to listen to it early but damn...dont yall care about Em's success with this album??

sure he'll still sell a shit load even if it leaks, but do you fuckin realize how much MORE he would sell if it didnt???

whe relapse leaked i didnt listen to one song until i had the actual CD...and dont say "i'll download it but then i'll still buy it when it comes out" cuz who are u kidding?? u know damn well u aint gonna buy that fuckin CD when u've already had the songs in ur mp3 player for 1-2 weeks already...damn
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Re: Im surprised

Postby Arrinef » May 29th, '10, 07:19

Amadeo wrote:i'm not listening to the 2nd single if it's released before the album leaks. i'm going to listen to all 16 tracks in one sitting.

word, i was thinking the same thing
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Re: Im surprised

Postby Lokito4 » May 29th, '10, 07:21

I'll just at least listen to the singles and that's it...
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Re: Im surprised

Postby EminemBase » May 29th, '10, 07:24

People buy albums that they want to own. This notion that leaking early seriously damages the sales of truly great albums is not one I believe.

Of course it will somewhat but if the album is THAT great, his fans will want to own it and therefore buy it any way. Leaking only badly damages the sales of shitty albums (like BISD).

All the current situation is now doing is forcing artists to work harder for sales. Which is a good thing. Because once the labels figured out the public's perceptions for a while, selling records became WAY too easy. Ramping up trends and plummeting the quality of genres.

Now the power is more in the hands of the artist, with this new age. People like B.o.B. And the labels hate it. But those who EMBRACE change and work with it are the ones who will succeed. Trying to reverse the inevitable and fight leaking head on at this point is dumb.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby Elision » May 29th, '10, 07:24

Amadeo wrote:i'm not listening to the 2nd single if it's released before the album leaks. i'm going to listen to all 16 tracks in one sitting.



This. And I'm buying the album as well.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby Tribrow » May 29th, '10, 07:27

rep2death wrote: "i'll download it but then i'll still buy it when it comes out" cuz who are u kidding?? u know damn well u aint gonna buy that fuckin CD when u've already had the songs in ur mp3 player for 1-2 weeks already...damn

Actually if you preorder the album then this isn't an issue. That's what I did with Relapse; preordered it on Amazon and then downloaded it when it leaked. I would have bought it even if I hadn't preordered it though.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby D_Block313 » May 29th, '10, 07:41

rep2death wrote:..at how many of u guys are dying to have this thing leak already....are u serious!?

why the fuck wuld u want this shit to leak???

sure it means u get to listen to it early but damn...dont yall care about Em's success with this album??

sure he'll still sell a shit load even if it leaks, but do you fuckin realize how much MORE he would sell if it didnt???

whe relapse leaked i didnt listen to one song until i had the actual CD...and dont say "i'll download it but then i'll still buy it when it comes out" cuz who are u kidding?? u know damn well u aint gonna buy that fuckin CD when u've already had the songs in ur mp3 player for 1-2 weeks already...damn


How do you know that i won't buy it when it comes out? I like having a physical copy of an album to add to my collection. I hope it leaks early because I'm anxious to hear his music, and you only care about his sales like a blind stan.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby deaneedog » May 29th, '10, 07:45

I agree with that it will damage the sales. When relapse leaked I downloaded it and listened to it all and I still brought it the day it came out. I feel as long as your still going to buy it why not listen to it an extra week or so early.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby ShadyNarkoticz » May 29th, '10, 07:58

Amadeo wrote:i'm not listening to the 2nd single if it's released before the album leaks. i'm going to listen to all 16 tracks in one sitting.

My thoughts exactly. After hearing almost half of Relapse before it leaked, I want to keep this a surprise until the 22nd. I don't want to hear any reviews or anything, I want to go into this album open minded.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby Drucifer » May 29th, '10, 08:04

When this leaks, I might Download, but I'll buy it legally thru Itunes when it comes out for real,Gotta support the artist you like, I dont buy CD's no more tho, as soon as I bought The Ipod connecter for the car that was the end of that.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby WelshEm » May 29th, '10, 12:27

i aint going to lie if it leaks i will download it but i would 100% go buy the album also as i did with relaspe and refill
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Re: Im surprised

Postby DanWS » May 29th, '10, 12:28

One Mic wrote:
EminemBase wrote:People buy albums that they want to own. This notion that leaking early seriously damages the sales of truly great albums is not one I believe.

Of course it will somewhat but if the album is THAT great, his fans will want to own it and therefore buy it any way. Leaking only badly damages the sales of shitty albums (like BISD).

All the current situation is now doing is forcing artists to work harder for sales. Which is a good thing. Because once the labels figured out the public's perceptions for a while, selling records became WAY too easy. Ramping up trends and plummeting the quality of genres.

Now the power is more in the hands of the artist, with this new age. People like B.o.B. And the labels hate it. But those who EMBRACE change and work with it are the ones who will succeed. Trying to reverse the inevitable and fight leaking head on at this point is dumb.


B.o.B??

That guy flopped

Only sold 80k first week for his debut studio album, with strong /successful singles to aid it aswell.

Even Relapse:Refill outsold that in the first week (140k), which was little more than a re-released album just 6 months after Relapse


I don't care what anyone says, a Billboard #1 is not a flop.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby DanWS » May 29th, '10, 12:48

One Mic wrote:
DanWS wrote:I don't care what anyone says, a Billboard #1 is not a flop.


Of course it isn't...

I was just saying IMO it was a flop in comparison to how much it was projected to sell, and the amount of singles he sold, and how much hype/buzz there was. It didn't deliver in terms of unit sales (first week)

The Adventures Of Bobby Ray - 80k
Blueprint 3 - 470k
Relapse - 610k

All Billboard Number One Albums, but B.o.B's flopped in terms of actual sales v projected sales

80k isn't very good at all, especially when you consider 50 Cent sold DOUBLE that first week (160k), and only managed to get a #5 album.


Fair enough if it was a flop in your own estimations, that makes things a bit more understandable.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby EminemBase » May 29th, '10, 12:55

One Mic wrote:
EminemBase wrote:People buy albums that they want to own. This notion that leaking early seriously damages the sales of truly great albums is not one I believe.

Of course it will somewhat but if the album is THAT great, his fans will want to own it and therefore buy it any way. Leaking only badly damages the sales of shitty albums (like BISD).

All the current situation is now doing is forcing artists to work harder for sales. Which is a good thing. Because once the labels figured out the public's perceptions for a while, selling records became WAY too easy. Ramping up trends and plummeting the quality of genres.

Now the power is more in the hands of the artist, with this new age. People like B.o.B. And the labels hate it. But those who EMBRACE change and work with it are the ones who will succeed. Trying to reverse the inevitable and fight leaking head on at this point is dumb.


B.o.B??

That guy flopped

Only sold 80k first week for his debut studio album, with strong /successful singles to aid it aswell.

Even Relapse:Refill outsold that in the first week (140k), which was little more than a re-released album just 6 months after Relapse



B.o.B didn't flop at all man.

Eminem only sold 250k with his debut, The Slim Shady LP back in early 99'. Back when trends were still rampant, when CDs still sold like shit and he was a gigantic talking point. Especially within rap.

So considering B.o.B didn't have close to that intense hype, has built himself up from online promotion and mixtapes and released this album in the US only as a pretty limited release under a joint venture - To sell 80k first week, in 2010, is good and definitely not a flop.

I'm sure his second album will sell a lot more now. Sure, he had a number one single but it takes a long time for the public to catch up and become fully acustom with artists. Usually takes that first album or two to really break them in to 'most' people. And comparing it to Em's or Jay's albums is silly no offence. Because B.o.B is brand new to the public, those two are considered living legends. Of course they'll outsell the shit out of him. He ain't gonna sell in their region.

Kid Cudi for example sold 104k copies first week. And he arguably had more hype and promotion. Especially being on Kanye's label. Regardless of that though, I wouldn't care if B.o.B flopped hard, I love his music. He's an incredible musician, adept / poetic lyricist and he will work magic with the many genres he blends. Guy will go very far. I don't care about sales. Just music.
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Re: Im surprised

Postby stolt-011 » May 29th, '10, 13:02

I'll download the songs when they leak. but I will also buy the album, I've done that since Eminem show so why would I stop now?
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