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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby macdaddy019967 » Jun 7th, '10, 08:35

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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby csg370 » Jun 7th, '10, 08:48

Elix wrote:No hating, just wanted to post a different opinion.

I think Em does in fact take shots at Weezy, but he's very clever about it and not making it extremely obvious unless you take a closer look. It's not straight dissing, it's more like he's showing him up.

Remember how before Wayne and Em were even on the same track, Wayne said in an interview that Em is "scared to work" with him. Which is the main reason why I think that Em does show Wayne up on his own tracks instead of going the usual dissing way.

But let's get to the point.

First thing that made me suspicious:
Wayne on Forever: "I'm resting in the lead I need a pillow and a cover"
Em on Drop The World: "Sleep on me that pillow is where your head'll lie"

Wayne say's he's in the lead aka on top of the game. We know Wayne likes to call himself the best rapper alive and Em is very well aware of this. Em says "sleep on me" which refers to the position (=lead/the top), and that he's going to lyrically decapitate him.

Em on Not Afraid "You said you was king, you lied through your teeth
For that fuck your feelings, instead of getting crowned you're getting capped
"
Another shot which is clearly aimed at one person and not the usual "brag against everyone else", because there can only be one king. Who said he was king? Resting in the lead? Best rapper alive? Wayne does. Em mentions the scenario again where Wayne's getting decapitated in the fight for the lead, and not crowned (think pillow).

Now for the main part:
Em on Won't Back Down: "Bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping
Does a bird chirp
Lil Wayne slurps syrup til he burps
And smokes purp, does a wordsearch, gets circles wrapped around him like you do when I come through
"

First of all, Em doesn't say "Does Lil Wayne slurp...", he says "Lil Wayne slurps..." making it a full sentence and not a rhetorical question like you seem to think. Listen to the track closely, he cleary says "Lil Wayne" right after "chirps", there's no "Does" in between.

The first line obviously looks like it's referring to Nick Cannon, but if you think about it twice, why would he keep dissing him after "The Warning"? Listen to it again, to me Em clearly drew a line with that track and Nick/Mariah haven't dared to reply to him in any way so why should he keep going on about a battle that he has clearly won.

So in my opinion, the first line refers to Birdman, Wayne's "boyfriend", remember them kissing? Also, if it was referring to Cannon, why would he say "boyfriend" and not "husband"? Nick and Mariah are married.

Next line, does a bird chirp, obviously connected to Birdman and refering to the first line.

In the next line he says that Wayne is high on syrup/purp all the time and does a wordsearch (=searching for lyrics) while Em is wrapping/rapping circles around him without Wayne even noticing he's being shat on. Basically Em says Wayne is having a hard time finding lyrics for his own verses on their collabs, while Em is dominating it, easily taking shots at him all around him (in circles) and Wayne doesn't even notice.

Em on Drop The World: "I can run circles around you so fast your fucking head'll spin dog". <- The circles again referring to how he's taking shots at Wayne all around him/circles (=on the collabs).

Em on Not Afraid "It's a game called circle". Referring to how he's playing a game with Wayne and showing him up on their collabs.

Also, if Em wanted to ask just a row of rhetorical questions, why does he, out of all the 10000 possible questions you could ask, say "does a bird chirp" and mention Lil Wayne right after that? He could have said "is 2+2 = 4?" (stupid example) or something, but I don't think bird -> Wayne is a coincidence. Overall if you take a closer look there are too many things that would be too coincidental if they weren't meant to be aimed at Wayne.

Em does this, in my opinion, to show that he's not afraid at all to collab with Wayne. In fact, he has the balls to diss him on their own tracks.

Why does Em say he likes Wayne's work and think he's good? So he can keep making collabs with him and show him up on them. He's making everyone think that they are cool on the outside so he can keep shitting on him cleverly and subtle.


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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby Cokebottle » Jun 7th, '10, 10:16

Elix wrote:No hating, just wanted to post a different opinion.

I think Em does in fact take shots at Weezy, but he's very clever about it and not making it extremely obvious unless you take a closer look. It's not straight dissing, it's more like he's showing him up.

Remember how before Wayne and Em were even on the same track, Wayne said in an interview that Em is "scared to work" with him. Which is the main reason why I think that Em does show Wayne up on his own tracks instead of going the usual dissing way.

But let's get to the point.

First thing that made me suspicious:
Wayne on Forever: "I'm resting in the lead I need a pillow and a cover"
Em on Drop The World: "Sleep on me that pillow is where your head'll lie"

Wayne say's he's in the lead aka on top of the game. We know Wayne likes to call himself the best rapper alive and Em is very well aware of this. Em says "sleep on me" which refers to the position (=lead/the top), and that he's going to lyrically decapitate him.

Em on Not Afraid "You said you was king, you lied through your teeth
For that fuck your feelings, instead of getting crowned you're getting capped
"
Another shot which is clearly aimed at one person and not the usual "brag against everyone else", because there can only be one king. Who said he was king? Resting in the lead? Best rapper alive? Wayne does. Em mentions the scenario again where Wayne's getting decapitated in the fight for the lead, and not crowned (think pillow).

Now for the main part:
Em on Won't Back Down: "Bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping
Does a bird chirp
Lil Wayne slurps syrup til he burps
And smokes purp, does a wordsearch, gets circles wrapped around him like you do when I come through
"

First of all, Em doesn't say "Does Lil Wayne slurp...", he says "Lil Wayne slurps..." making it a full sentence and not a rhetorical question like you seem to think. Listen to the track closely, he cleary says "Lil Wayne" right after "chirps", there's no "Does" in between.

The first line obviously looks like it's referring to Nick Cannon, but if you think about it twice, why would he keep dissing him after "The Warning"? Listen to it again, to me Em clearly drew a line with that track and Nick/Mariah haven't dared to reply to him in any way so why should he keep going on about a battle that he has clearly won.

So in my opinion, the first line refers to Birdman, Wayne's "boyfriend", remember them kissing? Also, if it was referring to Cannon, why would he say "boyfriend" and not "husband"? Nick and Mariah are married.

Next line, does a bird chirp, obviously connected to Birdman and refering to the first line.

In the next line he says that Wayne is high on syrup/purp all the time and does a wordsearch (=searching for lyrics) while Em is wrapping/rapping circles around him without Wayne even noticing he's being shat on. Basically Em says Wayne is having a hard time finding lyrics for his own verses on their collabs, while Em is dominating it, easily taking shots at him all around him (in circles) and Wayne doesn't even notice.

Em on Drop The World: "I can run circles around you so fast your fucking head'll spin dog". <- The circles again referring to how he's taking shots at Wayne all around him/circles (=on the collabs).

Em on Not Afraid "It's a game called circle". Referring to how he's playing a game with Wayne and showing him up on their collabs.

Also, if Em wanted to ask just a row of rhetorical questions, why does he, out of all the 10000 possible questions you could ask, say "does a bird chirp" and mention Lil Wayne right after that? He could have said "is 2+2 = 4?" (stupid example) or something, but I don't think bird -> Wayne is a coincidence. Overall if you take a closer look there are too many things that would be too coincidental if they weren't meant to be aimed at Wayne.

Em does this, in my opinion, to show that he's not afraid at all to collab with Wayne. In fact, he has the balls to diss him on their own tracks.

Why does Em say he likes Wayne's work and think he's good? So he can keep making collabs with him and show him up on them. He's making everyone think that they are cool on the outside so he can keep shitting on him cleverly and subtle.

This is without doubt the biggest reaching post i have ever seen on here. It's beyond stupid and you still used the wrong lyrics! He doesn't say HIM he says IT. Eminem was on the radio just 2 days ago saying Wayne that he respects everything he does etc,, give it a rest the TS is correct.

"Bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping
Does a bird chirp?
Lil Wayne slurps syrup til he burps and smokes purp?
Does a wordsearch get circles wrapped around it like you do when I come through
"
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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby Raids-God » Jun 7th, '10, 15:12

Way to fucking ruin this guys work. i want more gigantic post of witch i dont usaly read the second half.
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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby Elix » Jun 7th, '10, 16:39

Cokebottle wrote:This is without doubt the biggest reaching post i have ever seen on here. It's beyond stupid and you still used the wrong lyrics! He doesn't say HIM he says IT. Eminem was on the radio just 2 days ago saying Wayne that he respects everything he does etc,, give it a rest the TS is correct.

"Bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping
Does a bird chirp?
Lil Wayne slurps syrup til he burps and smokes purp?
Does a wordsearch get circles wrapped around it like you do when I come through
"


Well like I said it's just an opinion and it all makes sense in my eyes. You could say it's far-fetched and I say it would be too much of a coincidence if nothing I menioned was aimed at Weezy. And I dunno, I hear him saying "wrapped around him", I tried making out the "it" sound but you really can't tell from just listening, it could be both.

Everyone else, thanks for the praise, appreciated :worship:.
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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby Cokebottle » Jun 7th, '10, 18:31

Elix wrote:Well like I said it's just an opinion and it all makes sense in my eyes. You could say it's far-fetched and I say it would be too much of a coincidence if nothing I menioned was aimed at Weezy. And I dunno, I hear him saying "wrapped around him", I tried making out the "it" sound but you really can't tell from just listening, it could be both.

Everyone else, thanks for the praise, appreciated :worship:.

far fetched is not the word :facepalm2
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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby Thetruthurts » Jun 8th, '10, 11:06

Cokebottle wrote:This is without doubt the biggest reaching post i have ever seen on here. It's beyond stupid and you still used the wrong lyrics! He doesn't say HIM he says IT. Eminem was on the radio just 2 days ago saying Wayne that he respects everything he does etc,, give it a rest the TS is correct.

"Bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping
Does a bird chirp?
Lil Wayne slurps syrup til he burps and smokes purp?
Does a wordsearch get circles wrapped around it like you do when I come through
"


You need to listen to that part again, he really does say 'him' and not 'it'. Which completely discredits your theory.
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Re: Eminem does NOT diss Weezy

Postby Mxracer6y » Jun 10th, '10, 04:45

Thetruthurts wrote:You need to listen to that part again, he really does say 'him' and not 'it'. Which completely discredits your theory.


Nope. he DEFINITELY says 'it'. im 100% positive, i slowed it down.

and Elix man you are REACHIN... he's definitely not taking shots at wayne.

and fyi T.I. is the ONLY person who called himself the king.. and em and t.i. are good friends

and plus em's lyrics on 'talkin to myself' will put this thread to sleep

last verse he says 'weezy keep ya head up, t.i. keep ya head up, kanye keep ya head up, dont let em keep slayin em'

Also, all the lyrics that anyone has posted that so called were directed at ONE person, are REALLY not.. he generalizes it in a way saying 'you' can be whoever happens to be listening

also on 'not afraid' when he says 'you said you was king, you lyin thru ur teeth' etc... that verse... My new theory is that he is possibly talking about himself. In alot of his songs he tends to insult and say negative things about him almost to motivate him.

like in 'talkin '2 myself' when he says how he almost went at weezy and kanye, and then says 'i woulda got my ass handed to me and i knew it'.... when everyone knows thats not the case.
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