Which is better lyrically - Recovery Vs. Relapse

by **JAGODA** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:10

Which is better lyrically - Recovery Vs. Relapse

What do you think?

I think that better is Recovery.

by **HereHere** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:12

Recovery by a mile imo. The metaphors and punchlines (apart from a couple weird ones) are crazy.

by **Jaz** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:12

Which is better - This thread or the other one with the exact same title that's probably within a few threads of this?

by **ku53v** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:12

http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/

by **Jimmy Conway** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:12

It's hard to say because of that accent. It takes away from everything. Lyrically, Relapse is a lot tighter than people give it credit for, but he says some crazy stuff on Recovery. I think Recovery beats it out.

by **HereHere** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:15

ku53v wrote:http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/

http://www.hownottobeacompletecunt.com

by **iraqi4life** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:16

Relapse no accent > Recovery.

by **MikeNUFC** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:23

Being lyrical is such a broad thing though.

Subject matter is part of being lyrical, rhyming is part of being lyrical, as is flow.

Rvy has better storytelling and is probably better written (bar Deja Vu & SWA). Also has the witty-ness Relapse lacked.

Relapse is better flow-wise though. More variety to me.

Rhyme-wise it's hard to judge but it's easier to rap about fictional things. Then again, Deja Vu proved he can do that on Relapse. Overall, based on the entier album and not individual songs I think he rhymes better on Rvy. Only just though

So probably Rvy overally.

by **Jaz** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:29

MikeNUFC wrote:Being lyrical is such a broad thing though.

Subject matter is part of being lyrical, rhyming is part of being lyrical, as is flow.

Rvy has better storytelling and is probably better written (bar Deja Vu & SWA). Also has the witty-ness Relapse lacked.

Relapse is better flow-wise though. More variety to me.

Rhyme-wise it's hard to judge but it's easier to rap about fictional things. Then again, Deja Vu proved he can do that on Relapse. Overall, based on the entier album and not individual songs I think he rhymes better on Rvy. Only just though

So probably Rvy overally.

See, when I talk about being lyrical I'm talking about rhyme structure, multies.. and I guess delivery because that can make non-rhymes rhyme. But nothing like flow or anything like that.

by **MikeNUFC** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:38

Jaz wrote:See, when I talk about being lyrical I'm talking about rhyme structure, multies.. and I guess delivery because that can make non-rhymes rhyme. But nothing like flow or anything like that.

Being lyrically for me includes pretty much anything in the way of the use of words.

You wouldn't include subject matter in being lyrical?

by **Shady50** » Jun 12th, '10, 22:40

Recovery is just overall a better album. The lyrics are better and the production is insane.

by **Jaz** » Jun 12th, '10, 23:20

MikeNUFC wrote:
Jaz wrote:See, when I talk about being lyrical I'm talking about rhyme structure, multies.. and I guess delivery because that can make non-rhymes rhyme. But nothing like flow or anything like that.

Being lyrically for me includes pretty much anything in the way of the use of words.

You wouldn't include subject matter in being lyrical?

Nah.. I use a few separate things to decide how good I think an emcee is.

1) Lyricism - Wordplay, Multi's, Rhyme structure and partially delivery
2) Flow & Delivery
3) Story-telling/Subject Matter
4) Concept tracks - and how good they are at pulling them off
5) Battle tracks - and how good they are at pulling them off

And I consider them all totally separate abilities. Relapse showed off number 1 and 4.. I guess you could say 3 too, but I prefer relatable stories. Recovery shows off numbers 2 better, although it does show the others, but Em definitely used his flow and delivery to the max on this album.

Edit: Also, I have those numbered in rank of how important I think they are.

by **KillahBee** » Jun 12th, '10, 23:24

Relapse is better rhyme-wise but Recovery is better lyrically, BLAOW!!!

by **MikeNUFC** » Jun 12th, '10, 23:31

KillahBee wrote:Relapse is better rhyme-wise but Recovery is better lyrically, BLAOW!!!

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by **Shit Can Happen** » Jun 12th, '10, 23:42

I honestly think Recovery has the better rhyme schemes and wordplay, and this is coming from someone who loves Relapse, isn't bothered by the accents and listened to songs from that album on a regular basis before Recovery came out.