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Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby HereHere » Jun 16th, '10, 01:12

Nope, just this:

People like you are the reason mainstream was on a downfall.
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby Jaz » Jun 16th, '10, 01:14

HereHere wrote:Nope, just this:

People like you are the reason mainstream was on a downfall.


And it's completely true.

People don't care about what the artist is saying any more, they just want a beat they can shake to and a name they recognize.. and that's a mistake as listeners.

Edit: Not to say Stay Wide Awake should be treated as some god-like song. Just general statements here.
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby HereHere » Jun 16th, '10, 01:24

Jaz wrote:And it's completely true.

People don't care about what the artist is saying any more, they just want a beat they can shake to and a name they recognize.. and that's a mistake as listeners.

Edit: Not to say Stay Wide Awake should be treated as some god-like song. Just general statements here.


I take everything as a hole in a song. For example, I'd rather take a song that had great content, great flow, great rhyming...blablabla than one that had iffy content, but amazing rhyming (not to mention that abortion that was the accent).
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby BILI » Jun 16th, '10, 01:32

Flow yes
Multies no

Overall yes,yes and yes
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby Jaz » Jun 16th, '10, 01:35

Rock Bottom is better lyrically, and as a whole than ANY song on Recovery.

That's how you make a perfect song. Great content, SICK rhyme schemes, good story-telling.

A lot of songs sound good just because of the way a rapper's voice fits a beat, that doesn't make it a good song.. That might make people want to listen, but that doesn't make it a good song at all.

Most rappers sacrifice lyricism to keep things simple and just ride a beat with elementary rhymes.. Em doesn't even do that on Recovery, but my point is that people thinking the lyrics don't matter are the reason artist's assume they can get away with it, and they are right.

Like I said, once listeners can learn to hold the game to a certain standard, the game will have to change to fit that. That's how this works. So any problems people have with rappers in the game can be blamed completely on the listeners.
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby da r star » Jun 16th, '10, 01:36

EminemBase wrote:So it's to be expected that he'd sacrifice extreme rhyme patterns for those things.


Yea of course, like he did with The Eminem Show, The Marshall Mathers LP and Slim Shady LP.....

It's just funny how people are finding excuses for Eminem dumbing down his lyrics like "Oh, he's making meaningful songs now, so he doesn't have to be as lyrical as before". Look people, it's a fact that he intentionnaly dumbed down his lyrics to be more mainstream. The label probably asked him that or he realised that himself, that he needs to start keeping things a little simpler for the mass.
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby squall » Jun 16th, '10, 01:42

Stay Wide Awake has pretty much good beats & background music than most of the Recovery songs and is better in terms of flow than almost all the recovery songs. Bt if its lyrics, metaphors Recovery wins big time.
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby SeoNv » Jun 16th, '10, 01:42

2 verse Seduction :coffee:

Recovery > STA

the multis is not important
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby buffalo bill » Jun 16th, '10, 02:00

Where are all those brilliant metaphors on Recovery?
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby slimsoxshady » Jun 16th, '10, 02:04

^ they're in there...you just gotta focus
lots of wordplay, and for Eminem, thats saying something cuz he's never done it aside from Infinite
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby M-Pyre » Jun 16th, '10, 02:06

the first time I heard stay wide awake I was like, WOW, dAMN that was awesome!

not one recovery track had "that" effect on me.

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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby M-Pyre » Jun 16th, '10, 02:08

da r star wrote:
EminemBase wrote:So it's to be expected that he'd sacrifice extreme rhyme patterns for those things.


Yea of course, like he did with The Eminem Show, The Marshall Mathers LP and Slim Shady LP.....

It's just funny how people are finding excuses for Eminem dumbing down his lyrics like "Oh, he's making meaningful songs now, so he doesn't have to be as lyrical as before". Look people, it's a fact that he intentionnaly dumbed down his lyrics to be more mainstream. The label probably asked him that or he realised that himself, that he needs to start keeping things a little simpler for the mass.

you said it !
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby Hadez » Jun 16th, '10, 02:37

multis is what separates the truly lyrical songs from the Mother Goose rhymes of everyone else.

multis, to me, are very important. equal to, if not more so, than punchlines. but i guess people have different priorities.
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby Emadyville » Jun 16th, '10, 02:41

I'd rather listen to every song on recovery over SWA :8)
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Re: Do any songs on Recovery come close to "Stay Wide Awake"

Postby Robbie G » Jun 16th, '10, 02:42

SWA is dope but doesn't have that much replay value for me.
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