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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby Fetou » Jun 23rd, '10, 02:23

Get real. An album has to be an album to be good. You like fucking Miley Cyrus and other pop artists with the singles and few listenable songs per album? I'll gladly forget Encore and pretend it's not in the discography.

Mockingbird is an awful song musically and lyrically. It just has some personal content so stans LOVE it.
Like Toy Soldiers, Never Enough (still short as shit and 50 kind of ruins it, I do miss Nate Dogg), Spend Some Time are solid but hardly album savers....
Mosh is a powerful format, but his ideas are anything but revolutionary or intelligent...
Crazy in Love is AWFUL musically, and too irritating to finish. Heart's song by itself is better...
Encore is not a good song. Em is not really good at club songs.
Yellow Brick Road verses are AWFUL musically and from a technical rap perspective. If you can listen to that song two times in a row, you are a fucking masochist. Shove your dick in an oven, you'll like that too.
Evil Deeds has a bit of good content lyrically, but horrible musically once again with whack ass flow that doesn't work.
Puke makes me want to puke... the rest of it is more painful than eating that aformentioned puke.

Encore is FUCKING awful. Get over it. Em's over it, all that matters to me. :shakehead:
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby Emadyville » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:05

anyone else...2 cents...anyone :unsure:
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby viper50 » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:19

haha this is exactly what I thought would happen, a bunch of people in groupthink, all dissing the album because everyone else does. These are the same people who last year were saying shit like "fuck lil gayne, the dude is trash. he ain't real rap." Now they're saying "Oh Em likes Wayne? They're on each other's albums? Oh damn I guess Wayne's kinda dope."

I love Recovery, I've listened to it straight since it leaked. However, I think Encore is crazy underrated. It followed 3 of the top rap albums ever released, that's a lot of pressure. We're you all saying "man, these drugs are really fucking up his music" when Encore dropped? Nah, you didn't know about his drug abuse (the extent at least). And the whole "drugs made my music bad" is a lame excuse. Just ask Jimi, Kurt, and John.
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby classthe_king » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:27

I think you were right about all your points on Recovery. But wrong on Encore. I still give that album a 2-3/10. One of the worst hip hop albums ever.
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby Jaz » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:30

I'm not using his drugs as an excuse. Encore just isn't that good. I like:


Like Toy Soldiers
Yellow Brick Road
Mockingbird
Spend Some Time (Beside Stat's verse, never really felt that one)
Never Enough


That's it. I will never listen to any of the other songs on that album again, and I rarely listen to most of the ones I listed anyway.

Some of those songs I'd give a 8 or so out of 10. None of them I'd give anything higher. Overall I'd give the album a 5.5/10
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby viper50 » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:34

classthe_king wrote:I think you were right about all your points on Recovery. But wrong on Encore. I still give that album a 2-3/10. One of the worst hip hop albums ever.


Dozens of albums drop each YEAR that are infinitely worse. Many succesful rappers will never make a single track that can touch Encore's best. Not liking the album is fine but saying it is one of the worst of all time is like saying All Eyez On Me was an OK dance album. Retarded...
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby classthe_king » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:35

viper50 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I think you were right about all your points on Recovery. But wrong on Encore. I still give that album a 2-3/10. One of the worst hip hop albums ever.


Dozens of albums drop each YEAR that are infinitely worse. Many succesful rappers will never make a single track that can touch Encore's best. Not liking the album is fine but saying it is one of the worst of all time is like saying All Eyez On Me was an OK dance album. Retarded...


Name an album better :coffee:
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby Fetou » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:37

viper50 wrote:haha this is exactly what I thought would happen, a bunch of people in groupthink, all dissing the album because everyone else does. These are the same people who last year were saying shit like "fuck lil gayne, the dude is trash. he ain't real rap." Now they're saying "Oh Em likes Wayne? They're on each other's albums? Oh damn I guess Wayne's kinda dope."

I love Recovery, I've listened to it straight since it leaked. However, I think Encore is crazy underrated. It followed 3 of the top rap albums ever released, that's a lot of pressure. We're you all saying "man, these drugs are really fucking up his music" when Encore dropped? Nah, you didn't know about his drug abuse (the extent at least). And the whole "drugs made my music bad" is a lame excuse. Just ask Jimi, Kurt, and John.

Because the album sucks it is group think? I knew Encore sucked way before I came to these forums, which was pretty much just to get the leak and I found it interesting. I didn't even read anything about Encore before I bought it. I felt more violated than a rape victim.

I honestly am not concerned with why it sucked, but it really sucked. Especially when the MMLP and TES had been nearly perfect.
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby viper50 » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:44

classthe_king wrote:
viper50 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I think you were right about all your points on Recovery. But wrong on Encore. I still give that album a 2-3/10. One of the worst hip hop albums ever.


Dozens of albums drop each YEAR that are infinitely worse. Many succesful rappers will never make a single track that can touch Encore's best. Not liking the album is fine but saying it is one of the worst of all time is like saying All Eyez On Me was an OK dance album. Retarded...


Name an album better :coffee:


Better than Encore? MMLP, Blueprint, Illmatic, a shit load of others...
Did you mean worse? Then take your pick of any Gucci album...
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby classthe_king » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:47

You're right I did mean worse. And no, The State vs. Radric Davis and The Burrprint 2 > Encore
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby Jaz » Jun 23rd, '10, 03:55

classthe_king wrote:You're right I did mean worse. And no, The State vs. Radric Davis and The Burrprint 2 > Encore


Ehh.. idk about that. Although sadly, I could see it being close.
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby Robbie G » Jun 23rd, '10, 04:04

This thread fails pretty hard...
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby EminemInsider » Jun 23rd, '10, 06:51

viper50 wrote:haha this is exactly what I thought would happen, a bunch of people in groupthink, all dissing the album because everyone else does. These are the same people who last year were saying shit like "fuck lil gayne, the dude is trash. he ain't real rap." Now they're saying "Oh Em likes Wayne? They're on each other's albums? Oh damn I guess Wayne's kinda dope."

I love Recovery, I've listened to it straight since it leaked. However, I think Encore is crazy underrated. It followed 3 of the top rap albums ever released, that's a lot of pressure. We're you all saying "man, these drugs are really fucking up his music" when Encore dropped? Nah, you didn't know about his drug abuse (the extent at least). And the whole "drugs made my music bad" is a lame excuse. Just ask Jimi, Kurt, and John.


Did you ever consider the possibility that you may, in fact, be an idiot who knows nothing about lyricism or rap music in general?

Because that's the reality here. You're unbelievably ignorant and have no idea just how ridiculous your posts are.

What's amazing is...even people who don't really listen to rap music can tell that Encore was terrible and nothing like his first 3 albums.

Fetou pretty much summed it up, but he was being generous with the three "solid" efforts he listed.

On "Like Toy Soldiers," he can't buy a multi to save his life, his flow is stale and predictable ("look at me, I'm landing a syllable on each drum!"), and the song can best be summarized as Eminem over-dramatizing his beefs with Ja Rule/Benzino. He tried to make those out to be the next Tupac/Biggie when really they were pussy feuds. "Way beyond some Jay-Z and Nas shit"...LOL, give me a fucking break. Pillinem was paranoid and thought he was a gangsta...the bullet proof vest in the video says it all.

Never Enough features Eminem rhyming "crazy" with "Jay-Z" and "AZ" and "save me" and "gave me" and "hates me" throughout the entire verse. That rhyme scheme has been done about 982937473737344 times...and Eminem isn't saying anything interesting. Nate Dogg's chorus is terrible. Top it off with 50 Cent, the worst rapper in history...and you have a complete throwaway track.

Spend Some Time...Eminem's best verse on the album (which is like being the valedictorian of summer school), but terrible verses from Obie, Stat Quo, and 50 Cent make it unlistenable overall.
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby slimsoxshady » Jun 23rd, '10, 06:54

Like Toy Soldiers goes hard
thats about it though if you don't count We As Americans
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Re: The Case For Encore>Recovery

Postby 77o77 » Jun 23rd, '10, 08:01

slimsoxshady wrote:Like Toy Soldiers goes hard
thats about it though if you don't count We As Americans


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