Redman / Shady Situation?

[Jaz]

leave me out of it
i stopped at your shitty mixtape that people love, however I cannot, because of my blind hatred for Jaz caused by him proving me a fool.

[EminemBase]

It's not like he was saying bum as in homeless person..


common sense people

He's a guy who loves to bring up definitions..

A bum is someone who is homeless (or) leeches off others (or) has a poor appearence.

Cashis makes good music, he's not always lyrical, but he makes good MUSIC..

The guy didn't come off the street, he's been getting buzz for a while, has got on tracks with some pretty big names, even though his album will get hated on regardless of whether it's on the same level as 'Ms Jenkins'.. Because some on here don't like anyone getting reginition or getting close to their precious Em lol

I quite obviously meant he was a bum in respects to his material. He's an awful rapper.

And if you want to take the debate to semantics we can do that too, there are numerous definitions for the word 'bum' since it can be used in various ways. One definition is "of very poor quality; flimsy" - Which is exactly what I was implying Ca$his (and all that he is / puts out) embodies. He makes music of bum-quality. He's a bum artist.

So if you want to pointlessly try start debates with me over things this ridiculous, fine. But at least make sure you know exactly what you're talking about and have solid legs to stand on before coming at me. Retard.

[Jaz]

Sweet, sweet indirect victory.

[Jaz]

Sweet, sweet indirect victory.

indirect loss can be found here

At least you're laughing, right?


Hit me up when you can make a track that's more than 3% of it's way to being as nice.

[RealSickLindley]

Is that fuck a definition, or not one anyone would use anyway

I know you don't like him, but the 'bum' referrence wasn't a musical one, you just said it out of pure hate without reason, so don't even try and incinuate further from that.

Cashis makes music, whether lyrical or not, that a mass of people like to listen to. Something Em hadn't done until Recovery for 7 years. But if i would've referred to em as a 'bum' in '06/'07.. Your bridge driving ass would've gone on a massive emotional rant.

Although it does make me laugh, that you obviously put so much in to your arguments, yet end with anger. Dude, it just spoils what you say, and makes you out to be what we all thought you were before.. just a kid with alot of personality problems. So get in line and stop spoiling the forum before they change your username to 'Rainman'.

[EminemBase]

^ What a load of nonsense. You really are clutching at straws trying to defend yourself over some silly rubbish YOU started.

I called Ca$his a bum because he makes bum-quality music. I don't need to define the context of every insult when I make it just to appease fools like you. The context is pretty self-explanatory given the fact Ca$his is... a rapper. Why would I be talking about his dress sense or wealth... or ANYTHING else? lmfao, you idiot.

You tried making me look foolish with a non-point and now I've exposed it and you look foolish. And you're just digging yourself deeper with every reply.

What difference does it make if you think Ca$his' music is lyrical or not, I couldn't give a shit. As for the 'masses' enjoying it... I think that's a bit of a stretch, guy doesn't even have one album out yet. Besides which I couldn't give a shit if Ca$his was LITERALLY the biggest selling rapper of all time, if I think his music is trash... I think it's trash.

You're obviously a weak-minded person who can't form your own opinions or something so need to leech it off others or wait for the opinion of the 'masses' before you make up your mind. Ca$his has bad lyrics, a bad flow and bad subject matter, TO ME. I don't need your approval or for that, that's my opinion of it, END. I think he's a bum (as an artist / musically... OBVIOUSLY). You lose.

[Epidemik]

LOL nicely put ^
Cashis is crap imo

anyway.. on topic i agree that Redman would fit right in with shady.
Shit this good rarely happens though..
at least things are looking good for the slaughterhouse deal.

[watevermannnn]

Redman is irrelevant these days, and his style is wayyy outdated. I feel like he's washed up, IMO. I'm a fan, I like his work. I can def. see the influence in Eminem's music, from the skits to the attitude, but I don't think it should happen in 2010.

If anything, he should have been on Shady around 2001 when D12 was coming out, and Eminem should have definitely brought a long The Outz for that New Jersey feel, but it sadly didn't happen that way..

I honestly can't tell what direction Eminem is taking with his label. Does he want super dope rappers with no buzz? Does he want to sign unknowns? Does he want hip-hop artists? Because signing SH was stupid business wise, besides helping SH make cash from touring, they will never sell records while the industry is in a decline.

I think he signed Cashis because he was unknown, and wanted to create a big star, but obviously Cashis doesn't got it in him. I mean, Eminem thought Obie had so many star qualities, and where is he now? 50 cent was a rare case, the stars aligned for that mother fuckers hype, and that had nothing to do with his syllable game...

[RealSickLindley]

Are you one big joke?

I follow the masses.. by saying that Cashis was making better music for a few years than the most popular rapper ever?

Are you quite done? I mean you say that i'm looking foolish, yet after i made the post, another member corrected jaz before i even had a chance lmao.. take a hint..

You're nothing but a mentally troubled, forum essay writing loser, who for all his intellect and research.. Describes em's work as 'near perfect' and refers to him as by far 'the greatest to ever do it'.. You use specific technicalities to down others, but yet you get too over excited and make statements that are far from true when you give Slim his daily suck..

And whilst i am all for opinions, i simply can't take arguments or views seriously from the most arrogant person i've ever had the chance to see on a computer.. It's like, i'd hear you, but how can i when every post sounds like you're screaming it at the screen..

And this 'win/lose' thing you have an obcession with (guessing its part of the condition), needs to stop. It comes across like you're making a tally on your bedroom wall dude. We've all seen what you look like, and if by some miricle (or drug) you manage to get a girl home.. It won't be a good impression.. If anything, she'll try and wriggle away more..



It's too easy man..

[titan23]

Sweet, sweet indirect victory.

indirect loss can be found here

At least you're laughing, right?


Hit me up when you can make a track that's more than 3% of it's way to being as nice.

your name is. "Jaz"

[BabyBLue91]

always loved Redman. Makes Em seem a bit intimidated since hes not making a move on it eh.. but I'm sure its more than that.. we'll have to wait & see

(sorry to interrupt your fight fellahs )

[EminemBase]

@RealSickLindley - Yawn.

[titan23]

leave me out of it
i stopped at your shitty mixtape that people love, however I cannot, because of my blind hatred for Jaz caused by him proving me a fool.

8 downloads

[Drucifer]

Label politics, nothing more

Throughout the years I've heard about him talking to a ton of acts, rumors abbout him signing people were popping up everywhere between 2004-2008,

Cuban Link, Pharoah Monch, Dead Prez, Joe Budden, Redman, and Guilty Simpson were all, at one point or another, rumored to be in negotiations to join his label

[RealSickLindley]

@RealSickLindley - Yawn.

No wonder your tired, it's half 6 in England. It was my 19th on monday, so i spent most of this day passed out, hence why i can't sleep.

What's your excuse for doing an all nighter on Tr then basey?