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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby 77o77 » Jun 24th, '10, 05:37

classthe_king wrote:Well obviously Eminem was better then pac and big. Pac and big weren't even that good.


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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby Raids-God » Jun 24th, '10, 05:47

classthe_king wrote:Well obviously Eminem was better then pac and big. Pac and big weren't even that good.


If They were still alive thed probaly be like Nas .... Great But in Some Ways Extreamly underated.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby HairJordan23 » Jun 24th, '10, 06:03

If you're talking about in terms of popularity and pop culture, then yeah. Em is bigger than both of them.


IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby Shit Can Happen » Jun 24th, '10, 06:07

HairJordan23 wrote:IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.

That's kinda irrelevant to me because he's always been humble about people he (rightfully) respects. I'm still not seeing how Em is permanently placed beneath them as an MC, but each his own.

If you're referring to who's more respected amongst "serious hip-hop fans" you're probably right, but a lot of those people are snobby cunts anyway so I don't really care.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby 77o77 » Jun 24th, '10, 06:13

HairJordan23 wrote:If you're talking about in terms of popularity and pop culture, then yeah. Em is bigger than both of them.


IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.


In popularity EVERYONE HAS HEARED BOTH OF THEM!
No one in their fucking mind has heared of rap without tupac and em....
This isn't at you but it gets me when people act like no one liked or cared about them. Look at there albums and sales and how many people know them on the street.

They cant be compared.
2 of the greatest..if you dont think pac was great then you have truely been consumed by stanelyness. or you obviously are so quick to say em that you never truely listened to tupac or big.. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm fucking idiots
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby HairJordan23 » Jun 24th, '10, 06:14

Shit Can Happen wrote:
HairJordan23 wrote:IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.

That's kinda irrelevant to me because he's always been humble about people he (rightfully) respects. I'm still not seeing how Em is permanently placed beneath them as an MC, but each his own.



I said Talent Wise, Em is ahead of both of them. In a battle he would probably destroy both in their prime. PROBABLY. But those 2 are legends. You could probably put Em over BIG becuz BIG only had 2 album. 2 Pac has a lot more classic material. Just like Jay Z does. Go youtube Jay z and Bonnaroo.

That guy performed in some redneck town down south and had everyone dancing and enjoying themselves. His catalog is filled w/ way more classic Hip Hop songs than Eminem, Pac, and Big.

Eminem messed up his own catalog by filling it w/ corniness.

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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby HairJordan23 » Jun 24th, '10, 06:17

77o77 wrote:
HairJordan23 wrote:If you're talking about in terms of popularity and pop culture, then yeah. Em is bigger than both of them.


IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.


In popularity EVERYONE HAS HEARED BOTH OF THEM!
No one in their fucking mind has heared of rap without tupac and em....
This isn't at you but it gets me when people act like no one liked or cared about them. Look at there albums and sales and how many people know them on the street.

They cant be compared.
2 of the greatest..if you dont think pac was great then you have truely been consumed by stanelyness. or you obviously are so quick to say em that you never truely listened to tupac or big.. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm fucking idiots



I'm saying Em is below them. :facepalm Especially Pac. I do think Eminem has more fame worldwide than Pac. He's definitely more famous than BIG was. But if he had lived longer, his fame do doubt would've only grew. So who can say what could've been.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby buffalo bill » Jun 24th, '10, 06:18

pac > em > big
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby Shit Can Happen » Jun 24th, '10, 06:18

HairJordan23 wrote:
Shit Can Happen wrote:
HairJordan23 wrote:IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.

That's kinda irrelevant to me because he's always been humble about people he (rightfully) respects. I'm still not seeing how Em is permanently placed beneath them as an MC, but each his own.



I said Talent Wise, Em is ahead of both of them. In a battle he would probably destroy both in their prime. PROBABLY. But those 2 are legends. You could probably put Em over BIG becuz BIG only had 2 album. 2 Pac has a lot more classic material. Just like Jay Z does. Go youtube Jay z and Bonnaroo.

That guy performed in some redneck town down south and had everyone dancing and enjoying themselves. His catalog is filled w/ way more classic Hip Hop songs than Eminem, Pac, and Big.

Eminem messed up his own catalog by filling it w/ corniness.

Recovery is dope though

I think if Em isn't a legend already it's only because he's still alive. Saying Pac has more classic material all depends on what kind of crowd you're around. Who's the "best" is extremely subjective whereas who's the biggest is a lot easier to define objectively. Regardless, whoever you think is the best, I definitely think Eminem deserves to be in the same category as Biggie and Pac.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby Shit Can Happen » Jun 24th, '10, 06:21

77o77 wrote:
HairJordan23 wrote:If you're talking about in terms of popularity and pop culture, then yeah. Em is bigger than both of them.


IF you're talking about MCing and their places in hip hop, Em is below them. Even Em would tell you he's below them.


In popularity EVERYONE HAS HEARED BOTH OF THEM!
No one in their fucking mind has heared of rap without tupac and em....
This isn't at you but it gets me when people act like no one liked or cared about them. Look at there albums and sales and how many people know them on the street.

They cant be compared.
2 of the greatest..if you dont think pac was great then you have truely been consumed by stanelyness. or you obviously are so quick to say em that you never truely listened to tupac or big.. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm fucking idiots

Popularity is more than just knowing somebody's name, although I'd be willing to bet that a lot more people around the world know Eminem's name than any other rap artist. And when I say "the world" I'm not referring to just "the streets" or even just America.

And nobody said Pac wasn't great. Well, I think someone actually did say that but I don't agree lol.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby Shit Can Happen » Jun 24th, '10, 06:28

You're one of my favorite posters here for all the wrong reasons.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby 77o77 » Jun 24th, '10, 06:45

@hairjordan
I wasnt directing that at you, it was in general so dont you facepalm mister.. :shifty:

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People on this forum just seem to put down artists that were amazing and were loved by most for what they did do which was rap in this case.
popularity wise em=pac :coffee:

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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jun 24th, '10, 10:29

Eminem Hand's Down.

Em made The genre available to alot more people before it was only for suburban black's and Pac and biggie's subject matter was terrible yes i said it Hoes Money Bitches Weed and i never hear a 2pac record without him saying The POLICE they basiclly made music for the hood u gotta be a hustler to relate to that and they werent even that lyrical and got a lot of over praising cuz they dead.

Alot of rapper's are better than pac and big for example Nas and jay and rakim and KRS-One are better in my opinion.

But shady rules in every aspect in hip hop. :coffee:
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby EM-DZ » Jun 24th, '10, 10:39

Eminem + 2pac= legends
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby darklord981 » Jun 24th, '10, 12:10

1.2pac
2.eminem
3.biggie
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