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[mrjizzbomber]

http://www.jackofallthoughts.com/music- ... %99-wayne/

The comments in this article (as of the time I read it) all add points, as well. The second commenter concisely stated basically what I was trying to point out in a topic a few weeks ago:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88281

EDIT: Before I get killed, I'm not backing this guy. Just throwing food for thought on the table.

[Myth]

It does make sense but it could all be disputed if we learned that maybe Eminem ghostwrote waynes verse on no love...

I don't think Em is the type of person to pretend to be waynes friend and shit just to stab him in the back..

but I dunno I guess we will see what happens next

[slimsoxshady]

lol this is absolutely retarded
looks like something that faggot Eminembase would write

[titan23]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90670&hilit=HOLY+SHIT

Looks like one of our own beat these two guys to it. He noticed it when no one else did? Now these guys do? Doctor J just didn't know how to explain it. Didn't give examples, he just said Eminem was word recyclin'

[RapName]

http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90670&hilit=HOLY+SHIT

Looks like one of our own beat these two guys to it. He noticed it when no one else did? Now these guys do? Doctor J just didn't know how to explain it. Didn't give examples, he just said Eminem was word recyclin'

I have been for the past half year that Em is dissing Lil Wayne and using him to get on top again to show the world how it should be done.

I know some other members on here has been playing with the idea, but i guess it's just a "crazy" theory unless Em or someone else close to him confirmes it.
I would love it if it were actually true, maybe that's why I believe it

[titan23]

http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90670&hilit=HOLY+SHIT

Looks like one of our own beat these two guys to it. He noticed it when no one else did? Now these guys do? Doctor J just didn't know how to explain it. Didn't give examples, he just said Eminem was word recyclin'

I have been saying Em is dissing Lil Wayne for half a year and using him to get on top again to show the world how it should be done.

But anyways, Doctor J related that Eminem was recycling words of Wayne to diss him in Recovery. Everyone knew that he was using Wayne to make himself a name again. Duh

[Slill_Slim_Shady]

lol this is absolutely retarded
looks like something that faggot Eminembase would write

[RapName]

lol this is absolutely retarded
looks like something that faggot Eminembase would write

Word on that one.
slimsoxshady sucks EminemBases dick all day.

[Solace]

It all makes sense i just don't believe it.

[EminemBase]

Total rubbish.

People are so desperate to have them beef, especially Em fans that hate Wayne that it's now gotten to the point of delusion in respects to trying to stir it up.

@slimsoxshady - Is there any need? Firstly I wouldn't write something as fucking stupid as this, secondly - Why even name me, just leave me the fuck alone. I ain't aiming anything at you, why try and re-spark ridiculous arguments. Pathetic.

[RapName]

Total rubbish.

People are so desperate to have them beef, especially Em fans that hate Wayne that it's now gotten to the point of delusion in respects to trying to stir it up.

I don't agree. First time i heard Em's verse on Drop The World i thought "he gotta be dissing lil wayne, there's no way he isn't". There were some clear shots on Forever and Refill as well, but i didn't really pay any attention to it before i heard Ems verse on DTW as i said. It could have just been coincedences, but on DTW is was so clear.
Look at all the lyrics. It's so fucking clever, but obvious. People just don't want to buy it because it's such a "distant" though. All i have to say to that is;

REMEMBER HO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. EMINEM MIGHT HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME CHANGES AND MATURED, BUT HE IS STILL THE SAME INSANE, CRAZY, UNEXPECTED GENIUS THAT HAVE TRICKED AND FOOLED US SO MANY TIMES BEFORE!!

[Doctor J]

by the way, that's my friends blog and I'm Jeremy... he explains it a lot better than I did tho... and theres a lot more examples than just the one's in the blog

"all about my do' but i don't even check the peep hole,
so you can keep knockin, but won't knock me down"
-wayne

"bet ya never guess who's knockin at your door" -won't back down
"noone will knock cuz ima hang a sign up sayin don't disturb" -so bad

"just blaze and me are knockin on doors,
and no we aint pumpkins on halloween but we'll show up on your porch
so be careful what u say"- you're never over


i have more examples too

[mrjizzbomber]

by the way, that's my friends blog and I'm Jeremy... he explains it a lot better than I did tho... and theres a lot more examples than just the one's in the blog

"all about my do' but i don't even check the peep hole,
so you can keep knockin, but won't knock me down"
-wayne

"bet ya never guess who's knockin at your door" -won't back down
"noone will knock cuz ima hang a sign up sayin don't disturb" -so bad

"just blaze and me are knockin on doors,
and no we aint pumpkins on halloween but we'll show up on your porch
so be careful what u say"- you're never over


i have more examples too

You should really post ALL the examples you have. The more you post, the more convincing you are. Probably should limit the discussion to the other thread too, as this one is redundant.

[Doctor J]

cinderella man is a very good example of what he's doing because he's talking about wayne throughout most of the song...

[Intro]
You know technically I’m not even really supposed to be here right now
so Fuck it I might as well make the most of it
(Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen) [repeated]
Feels Good
Guess Im lucky
some of us dont get a second chance
But I aint blowin this one
Naah man haha
shit I feel like I can do anything now
Who can catch lighting in a bottle, set fire to water
Comin out the nozzle on a fire hose, flyer than swattors
Cinderella Man (x4)
Smash an hour glass, grab the sand, take his hands and cup em
Spin around to freeze a clock, take the hands of time and cuff em
Cinderella Man (x4)
[Eminem - Verse 1]
There’s a storm comin that the weatherman couldn’t predict
I start to ball prick you better flea cuz I get ticked
it’s a rap, I was down, when I was down I was kicked
I got up, I’m back to punch ya to the ground ya tricked
It’s a trap, fuck my last CD that shit’s in my trash
I’ll be God damned if another rapper gets in my ass
I hit the gas and I spit every rap as if it’s my last
You can die in a blink of an eye, so bat your eye lashes
So keep winkin and blowin kisses cuz ur flirtin with death
I’m destroyin ur livelihood, I ain’t just hurtin ur rep
I catch a flow and get goin,
No remorse I’m showin, aint slowin for no one, knowin there is nothing you can do about it
Zeroin’ in on my target like a marksman, the target is you
I shut your lane down, took your spot, parked in it too
Arsenic flow, lighter fluid, saliva, what can you do
lyrics courtesy of http://www.killerhiphop.com
Go get ur crew to hype you up, stand behind you like “woooooooo”
That boy’s hot enough to melt hell, burn Satan too
Fry his ass and put his ashes back together with glue
See you can hate him, he don’t blame you, frankly he would too
This game could ill afford to lose him, how bout you?
Now guess who….(Hey)
Here’s a clue….(Hey)
He came to the ball in his wife beater, lost his nike shoe
It’s in your ass, he’s in your ass, he’s all up in your psyche too
Now, what’s his name
Cinderella Man (x4)
[Singing]
If I had a time machine
I’d be…
Cinderella Man (x4)
Music is my time machine
So call me…
Cinderella Man (x4)
[Eminem]
Fuck catchin lighting, he struck it
Screamed shut up at thunder
Then flipped the world upside down and made it rain upward
Cinderella Man (x4)
Rewound the future to the present
Paused it, don’t ask how
Fuck the past motherfucker he’s the shit right now
he’s…
Cinderella Man (x4)
Cinderella man cinderfella-Shady dame
Came to wrap the game up in cellophane
Raise hell from hell he came
But didn’t come to bore you with this Cinderella story,
nor did he come to do the same, or can’t afford to be a lamo in this day and age
And at this stage in the game, mediocrity can no longer be allowed to fly
So say bye to the old H-I to the new Que Sera
Consider it his last hurrah
The coupe de gras, raise em high, in the sky
keep ‘em up, tryin’ to bring this place alive
Thanks for bein patient I will make no more mistakes,
shit my Potatoes baked homie the veggies on my plate can fly
My filet is smokin weed, yea faggot the stakes (steaks) are high
Shit I ain’t even supposed to be here by the grace of God
the skin on my teeth and the hair on my nuts I skated by
Now ya’ll are on thin ice with ankle weights I hate to lie
how fuckin irritated are you? how much in your face am I?
And ain’t shit you can do but fear it
Proof is here in spirit and I’m a spittin image I mirror it
When I stand near it, your pussy lyric I cunt (coudn’t) hear it
Who forms pyramids and raps circles around square lyricists?
Who? (Hey)
Here’s a clue (Hey)
He came to the ball in his wife beater and lost his nike shoe
It’s in your ass, he’s in your ass, he’s all up in ur psyche too
now…what’s his name
[Chorus]
[End]



I highlighted some of wayne's words for you and parts where i think he's referring to wayne. I understand a lot of those are common words, but again you have to look at all the evidence as a whole.

Also, lots of other interesting things going on with the words in this song..

the title is a movie, like almost famous... em names a lot of movies on this cd (homeward bound, jaws, wizard of oz, night of the living dead, etc.....

notice other words he says twice for example... ".. take his hands and cup em, Spin around to freeze a clock, take the hands of time and cuff em"... "you can die in the blink of an EYE so bat your EYE lashes..".... he likes to repeat body parts, like on wbd "spikin you like a FOOT ball, been this way since i stood a FOOT tall"... those words all tie in with the imagery he's creating on this cd

"theres a storm coming that the weatherman couldn't predict" - em says lots of weather things on the cd.... wind, tornado, earthquake, blizzard, storm, cloud, rain, etc...

also ... the GAME could ill afford to lose him, how bout you, GUESS WHO, heres a CLUE
guess who and clue are games, em says a lot of them on the cd, monopoly, nintendo, game boy, etc..


once again, this by itself isn't evidence of anything, you have to look at all the evidence, and theres a LOT more

he really does scrutinize every word... every word on this cd serves a purpose... even the celebrities he makes fun of... "roethlisBURGER (ketchup squirter squirted a frankfurter), etc.."

[EminemBase]

Total rubbish.

People are so desperate to have them beef, especially Em fans that hate Wayne that it's now gotten to the point of delusion in respects to trying to stir it up.

I don't agree. First time i heard Em's verse on Drop The World i thought "he gotta be dissing lil wayne, there's no way he isn't". There were some clear shots on Forever and Refill as well, but i didn't really pay any attention to it before i heard Ems verse on DTW as i said. It could have just been coincedences, but on DTW is was so clear.
Look at all the lyrics. It's so fucking clever, but obvious. People just don't want to buy it because it's such a "distant" though. All i have to say to that is;

REMEMBER HO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. EMINEM MIGHT HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME CHANGES AND MATURED, BUT HE IS STILL THE SAME INSANE, CRAZY, UNEXPECTED GENIUS THAT HAVE TRICKED AND FOOLED US SO MANY TIMES BEFORE!!

How the fuck is Em's part on "Drop the World" clearly a Wayne-diss.

They're aimless battle lyrics. People who keep re-directing his aimless lyricism at Wayne are trying to connect dots that aren't there.

You could say they're about ANYBODY and then listen and it would fit. There's nothing in any of them to truly suggest they're aimed at Wayne AT ALL. Anybody who thinks there is obviously just isn't that familiar with basic battle-rap lyricism. They're not aimed at anybody in particular, they're just smartass.

Like that post above me for example, is just ridiculous. Trying to say "Cinderella Man" is about Wayne and highlighting more battle-lyrics lmfao and because you think they're about Wayne it fits to you. They're generic, it's just him being the biggest smart ass he can, emphasizing his prowess.